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vitizax
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Hello,
Im trying to find the most suitable gear for a PvP GF, ive seen some people wearing "profund tactician" gear, which seems to be the best one, high hp and some power. but i still dont know which set of arms is the best for me, ive seen ppl with castle never, but it doesnt seem better than profund tactician weapons, and its pve! (i dont like it very much), so... any ideas about suitable weapons for me?
I also wanted to ask about new gear... i think its not better than profund tactician, but i have no big idea of game mechanics so i might be wrong, is it black ice gear better?
Rings belt and neck im going for the pvp ones that give crit, if i cant wear 2 crit rings ill take the one with most power.
And last but not least... im starting to get Booms from adventures, should i go for crit first power second? what after that? recovery? armor pen? deflection?
Thanks
If anybody knows a PvP Guild that plays in Dragon with west europe time i would appreciate
Im trying to find the most suitable gear for a PvP GF, ive seen some people wearing "profund tactician" gear, which seems to be the best one, high hp and some power. but i still dont know which set of arms is the best for me, ive seen ppl with castle never, but it doesnt seem better than profund tactician weapons, and its pve! (i dont like it very much), so... any ideas about suitable weapons for me?
I also wanted to ask about new gear... i think its not better than profund tactician, but i have no big idea of game mechanics so i might be wrong, is it black ice gear better?
Rings belt and neck im going for the pvp ones that give crit, if i cant wear 2 crit rings ill take the one with most power.
And last but not least... im starting to get Booms from adventures, should i go for crit first power second? what after that? recovery? armor pen? deflection?
Thanks
If anybody knows a PvP Guild that plays in Dragon with west europe time i would appreciate
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As far as crit is concerned, I wouldn't concentrate too much on this that because of the low points/% it gives. Best offensive stats you can aim at with GF are ArPen, Recovery, Power (if you're using the conqueror cap feat). Then you should stack Defense, Deflection and Regeneration as defensive stats. In my opinion crit and LS are useless on GFs.
Anyway, if you still want to get a bit more crit I'd go for the Timeless hero set. It's PVE but the damage you're going to do with it is not sth to mess with. If you have money or time to farm, try to get the new corrupted black ice gear and tell us if it works good
125 Power and ArP
175 Crit
they're PVE (so no Tenacity) but prety much BiS for offense
as for what stats to build, i'm gonna assume you went Conqueror, in which case Power>Crit>Arp>Recovery
*this is all just my opinion and i'm sure there will be those who disagree*
I can farm/buy few pve pieces, but i really dont want to play pve, i just dont like it.
Tenacity Who? Versus GF Master means nada.
Hi Vitizax,
i think there is no real best set for PVP among the profounds. You can choose conqueror, tactician, or protector according to the build you want to do. I am a GF DPS conqueror and I chose the profound conqueror without sacrificing too muc hdefesive stats; some of my guildmates opted for regenerative builds focused on defense, deflection and regeneration, so they chose the protector set. Therefore, you pick the best set according to your playstyle
About weapon + shield, I suggest you "fomorian" if you can make the sword (they are a pumped version of CN) and yo want to do a regenerative build; otherwise, you can get the "dread legion set" or make the "fallen dragon set" (which I have) if you want to do DPS, and get some lifesteal. If you are not interested in any of these, keep your CN set for the moment
According to the build you chose, you also pick up different rings. A regenerative protector/tactician build usually wear "GREATER RING OF HEALTH" x2, or "GREATER REPULSION" x2. if you want to be a DPSer, get rings with offensive stats and offensive slots, like Pyrotechnic bands, sourcerous ring of slaying......
I cannot help you more than this, because i actually do not get if you want to do a DPS GF or a TANK with good defense that can hold points a bit easier in PvP.
if you want to go defensive, this is a good spec I made a month ago. Read the 4th post
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?670071-Where-to-go-with-my-GF
If you want to do a DPSer let me know, I can provide you with a good DPS spec, too
Rings neck etc etc, i was also thinking to buy them with seals of triumph, the ones with more crit/power i could find.
About weapons, i was thinking about profund conquerors or maybe tactician... or if there are some pve at the market i would buy them. (althoug envy used to recomend lizardfolk sword)
I was also thinking about buying new enchantments (cruel savage tymora) i dont know if thats a good option, i dont know either what weapon or armor enchant... im a bit lost at this point.
Im completly lost about feats and powers, actually i use frontline, bulls and lunging strike as every other GF, but im not sure if they are the best, griffon wrath seems better that bulls charge, and maybe ill use supremacy of steel instead of villians menace... but as i just say, i dont know much about this, and i dont have enugh money to make tests myself (just have 1 free respect)
I dont like much pve, i do GG dungeons because i can get some money selling items, and they are pretty easy, ( i remember some pve dungeons i used to play a year ago and they were pretty hard, and GF s were pretty useless) but i want to get as much equip from pvp as i can.
Sorry for my english, and thanks for helping me!
I need armor pen, power, crit, hp, defense, regen, deflection... So I am using 3 pve pieces because they are superior in stats instead of pvp gear. I think the loss of these 3 pieces of gear would be far more drastic for me then the addition of 400+ tenacity?
Just my 2 cents.
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Hi mate,
You do not need to be sorry because of your English, I actually think it is good
So, you would like to become a PVP focused DPS GF. Thanks for the clarification. After Module 3, I began to be more PVP focused too, so I created my build starting from an old build posted online. Following, you can read some of my considerations:
- If you would like to be a DPS you really should go for Profound Conqueror set, which is the "PVP version" of the Timeless hero set for PVE. As you already pointed out, Deflection is one of the charateristics of the Profound Conqueror, and you really need some Deflection when you match PVP. In addition, I tried the Grim Tactician set about a month ago, and I was not very satisfied for two reasons. First, I lost some power that decreased my damage output in a quite significant way, so that I decresed power damage percentage from 49% to 41%. Second, I tried to maximize Defense because the tactician set does not have Deflection, however, I could not go over 52% damage resistance. As a result, I did not have the DPS I wish I could have, and I was not as tough as I wish I could be.
- Rings with tenacity are ok, but I would not waste much glory and seals on them because there are the black ice rings that are more powerful. I suggest you to aim to Sorcerous or Grim rings, necklace, and to the sorcerous belt of smiting (good penetration).
-After Mod 3, you need to increase ARMOR PENETRATION. Every offensive slot on your PG should have Dark enchants and Azure, so to increase Arp, and Crit. Defensive slots should be filled with Azure for Defense, and Silvery for Deflection. Your average HP should be around 28-29K.
-Weapon enchant use Plague fire (normal or greater) because it decreases enemies' defense, and armor enchant use lesser soulforged to start. When you will become confident with your GF, remove lesser soulforged and go for a Negation enchant, which increases your damage resistance for a limited time.
- I post you my current build, which i enjoy very much. Please, do not only watch the picture, read carefully the effects of each power, talent, and item I use
TALENTS: http://nwcalc.com/#/gf?b=pa7:25w0jk:20dxog,1rj056i:1pz051:15u000:100000&h=0&p=ivn
Notes on talents: I did not use ARMOR SPECIALIZATION because it is actually bugged. It does not increase the effectiveness of your Defense and AC.
ITEMS, ENCHANTS: http://gateway.playneverwinter.com/#char(Damanhur@damanhur89)/charactersheet
Notes on PG:The gateway does not show the effect of Reckless attaker, so my power in PVP, without pets and Ioun stone is 6.3 + boons = 6.9K. In addition, crit diminishing return starts at 1650 points, so I just got close to it. And, with ioun stone I have 2.4K crit. Maximize penetration on your PG, you need it in PVP. I increased recovery as much as I could because I do not have reduced cooldowns. With this build I have 49.5% DR and 22.9% Deflection in PVP. When I do PVE, so I have Ioun and companions, I achieve 50.5%DR and 24% deflection. Not too shabby for a GF DPS!
BY BUILD IS MEANT ONLY TO GIVE YOU SOME HINTS ON HOW YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN BUILD, SO YOU CAN START TO HAVE SOME IDEAS TO WORK ON IT
ENJOY!
I also didnt know about ARMOR PEN, ill enchant my gear that way.
despite all the things you taught me I have 2 more doubts:
I dont know which Booms i should use ( when i see a choice between "crit" and any other thing i choose "crit" but sometimes is not that simple).
Your weapons seem very tanky, i guess appart from brutal lizardfolk scimitar there are not REALLY Dps weapons, wouldnt it be better if i purchase Profund Conqueror weapons? they cost 19 seals but i have patience. (And i really dont like pve, going a thousand times just for 1 item, looking for a group...I get tired just thinking about it)
Thanks for the advice about jewlery, i guess black ice rings and belt and not hard to get (i havent start ice wind dale adventure, im workind on dread ring and shandarar), so ill give a use to grim coins and get them asap.
And i guess thats all, being a newbie is hard sometimes, this was my second or third post asking for advice, it was great you answered me!
Let's see about the boons. I chose the following:
Sharandar: POWER 250; CRITICAL STRIKE 250; HP 700; 400 HP RECOVEY WHEN YOU GET HIT; STAMINA AND GUARD METER GAIN +10% IN COMBAT
Dread Ring: POWER AND MOVEMENT 125/ea; REGEN 250; ARMOR PEN 250; NECROTIC DAMAGE 1000 SO THAT ENEMIES HEALING IS SLOWER "shadowtouch"; LIFESTEAL "endless consumption".
Despite my guide, you should take into account that you really should get closer to CRIT 1650; Defense 4000; Deflection 1800/2000; ARP. 2200+ ---STATS WITHOUT PETS AND IOUN STONE---All the rest can go on power
About weapons, I can suggest you to get the GRIM CONQUEROR SET if you do not like ANY PVE set. Its stats are just a bit lower than the profound weapon set. In the meantime, stick to your CN set for a bit longer, because it increases your regeneration
About the belt and rings: if you use the GRIM conqueror weapon set, then you can use the Pyrotechnic bands and the ancient excorcist necklace of blessing, because your GF does not need more than 900/1000 tenacity
Take care mate! If you have any further doubt, please write me again