sorry, but dogging the developers for not providing proprietary internal "not-ready-for-prime-time" information is completely ridiculous. and the fact that people are using the quote "answers to hard-hitting questions" as their reasoning behind it is the prime example of why you won't get leaked information from a cryptic employee ever. any quote will be construed as some kind of promise and when it doesn't happen, it's used against the company or the developers... just read the Q&A and how andy is careful with his wording when presented with something for the devs to consider.
This isn't about players taking something out of context. Or asking for information that's not ready. If they didn't have the info to give, they should have advertised it differently. They flat out misrepresented the event. How can you take the quote "answers to hard-hitting questions" any other way? If they passed it off as a friendly fluff chat, that's one thing. But that's not how it was represented. I never said the quote was a promise, but it was advertising. Just look at how they refer to it on twitter after the fact:
@globalgamers hosted a chat session with @thesquez to answer your toughest #Neverwinter questions.
and this is from the IRC page they gave to set it up:
Users will have the chance to ask their questions to the dev's and get some long awaited answers to popular questions!
I have a feeling most were there for the chance at a prize anyway. So they could have done just as well advertising it as a fluff chat. Without building false expectations.
Anyway, I'm done arguing about it. I'll know to just read the transcript next time.
This isn't about players taking something out of context. Or asking for information that's not ready. If they didn't have the info to give, they should have advertised it differently. They flat out misrepresented the event. How can you take the quote "answers to hard-hitting questions" any other way? If they passed it off as a friendly fluff chat, that's one thing. But that's not how it was represented. I never said the quote was a promise, but it was advertising. Just look at how they refer to it on twitter after the fact:
and this is from the IRC page they gave to set it up:
I have a feeling most were there for the chance at a prize anyway. So they could have done just as well advertising it as a fluff chat. Without building false expectations.
Anyway, I'm done arguing about it. I'll know to just read the transcript next time.
*Ugh... had to retype it forum ate half the post*
let me ask you a question...
let's say i'm a popular writer working on my next book and we're in a Q&A chat session. and people are asking about details of the new book. i would give vague answers because the book isn't finished or it hasn't been revised/edited or details could change before the book is published. but the Q&A is advertised as "popular author melodywhr to answer questions about new novel..."
would you really expect to get detailed answers?
i can only speak for myself here, but i know that when i have information about a release or i'm remixing a track that has not yet been released, i can't talk about it... i can't share this information with anyone because it has not yet been made public and it isn't my place to do so. back in july, i was notified that i had won a remix competition of a major artist and that was five days before it was officially announced. could i have spilled the beans? sure. but i could have jeopardized my winning.
and in the context of game content and MMOs and patches and updates, i know that until an official news release is published, individuals that work for the game company cannot discuss or release information or confirm assumptions/data mined details about upcoming events. even if the event is advertised as "get all the answers you ever wanted"... i know that's not happening. it's an advertising tool to get people excited about what's coming up. if you or anyone else took it any other way... well... why? because it said so? most gamers understand that this information is proprietary and can't be shared until it is officially released by the company. and maybe for some, that doesn't change the fact that it'd be nice to know. but no company and/or employee of said company wants to be burned for making statements that aren't "official".
some might say that the way the event was advertised in the forum thread was false advertising but really... nothing specific was mentioned. and people did get their questions answered. but if none of those answers fit your definition of "answers to hard-hitting questions" or however it was worded... isn't that based on your own expectations?
let's say i'm a popular writer working on my next book and we're in a Q&A chat session. and people are asking about details of the new book. i would give vague answers because the book isn't finished or it hasn't been revised/edited or details could change before the book is published. but the Q&A is advertised as "popular author melodywhr to answer questions about new novel..."
You don't see a difference between "answer questions about..." and "hard-hitting questions" or "answer your toughest questions" or "long awaited answers to popular questions". All quotes from them describing the event.
What I expected (from the way they advertised the thing) was that they had some new info they were ready to let out. And chose to use an IRC room to do it. That wasn't the case. As you said, my opinion is based on my expectations. My expectations however, were set by the way they promoted the event.
Either way, its only my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Like I said, I'm sure it won't matter to most of the attendees. I think most of them (besides the channel regulars) were just there for the chance of a prize.
Its not really that big of a deal. And I'd rather not clutter up the forums with it. If you feel the need to argue about it further with me directly, it might be better to just PM me.
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This isn't about players taking something out of context. Or asking for information that's not ready. If they didn't have the info to give, they should have advertised it differently. They flat out misrepresented the event. How can you take the quote "answers to hard-hitting questions" any other way? If they passed it off as a friendly fluff chat, that's one thing. But that's not how it was represented. I never said the quote was a promise, but it was advertising. Just look at how they refer to it on twitter after the fact:
and this is from the IRC page they gave to set it up:
I have a feeling most were there for the chance at a prize anyway. So they could have done just as well advertising it as a fluff chat. Without building false expectations.
Anyway, I'm done arguing about it. I'll know to just read the transcript next time.
*Ugh... had to retype it forum ate half the post*
let me ask you a question...
let's say i'm a popular writer working on my next book and we're in a Q&A chat session. and people are asking about details of the new book. i would give vague answers because the book isn't finished or it hasn't been revised/edited or details could change before the book is published. but the Q&A is advertised as "popular author melodywhr to answer questions about new novel..."
would you really expect to get detailed answers?
i can only speak for myself here, but i know that when i have information about a release or i'm remixing a track that has not yet been released, i can't talk about it... i can't share this information with anyone because it has not yet been made public and it isn't my place to do so. back in july, i was notified that i had won a remix competition of a major artist and that was five days before it was officially announced. could i have spilled the beans? sure. but i could have jeopardized my winning.
and in the context of game content and MMOs and patches and updates, i know that until an official news release is published, individuals that work for the game company cannot discuss or release information or confirm assumptions/data mined details about upcoming events. even if the event is advertised as "get all the answers you ever wanted"... i know that's not happening. it's an advertising tool to get people excited about what's coming up. if you or anyone else took it any other way... well... why? because it said so? most gamers understand that this information is proprietary and can't be shared until it is officially released by the company. and maybe for some, that doesn't change the fact that it'd be nice to know. but no company and/or employee of said company wants to be burned for making statements that aren't "official".
some might say that the way the event was advertised in the forum thread was false advertising but really... nothing specific was mentioned. and people did get their questions answered. but if none of those answers fit your definition of "answers to hard-hitting questions" or however it was worded... isn't that based on your own expectations?
You don't see a difference between "answer questions about..." and "hard-hitting questions" or "answer your toughest questions" or "long awaited answers to popular questions". All quotes from them describing the event.
What I expected (from the way they advertised the thing) was that they had some new info they were ready to let out. And chose to use an IRC room to do it. That wasn't the case. As you said, my opinion is based on my expectations. My expectations however, were set by the way they promoted the event.
Either way, its only my opinion. Feel free to disagree. Like I said, I'm sure it won't matter to most of the attendees. I think most of them (besides the channel regulars) were just there for the chance of a prize.
Its not really that big of a deal. And I'd rather not clutter up the forums with it. If you feel the need to argue about it further with me directly, it might be better to just PM me.