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ggyu
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I think all people if they notice forum ,They will see more than half people blame Cryptic on GWF issue with pve ,Dung ,skills ,unstoppable Bug since Beta
First Pve :
As Aoe:GWF Have few Aoe skills with low damage,low control and low Ranged But on other hand CW Own in that part
As Tank :GWF can't be tanker like GF Though he suppose to be second Tanker in pve
As DPs : Of course TR and CW Who own that part over bosses While GWF can't make half Damage that Cw or TR
can do on bosses
As Heal : GWF not healer ,DC own that part too
The only use i see for GWF without laugh ,Just A runner ??
That my view of Pve dung ,So why should A normal party take GWF while he second in everything ??
as Unstoppable : unstoppable skill still have old issue that lead it to Stop work while pve or pvp So we need to switch map so it can work
and Because of that GWF Gear and weapon sets Now all cause over milllion AD to buy them ,So please do something
First Pve :
As Aoe:GWF Have few Aoe skills with low damage,low control and low Ranged But on other hand CW Own in that part
As Tank :GWF can't be tanker like GF Though he suppose to be second Tanker in pve
As DPs : Of course TR and CW Who own that part over bosses While GWF can't make half Damage that Cw or TR
can do on bosses
As Heal : GWF not healer ,DC own that part too
The only use i see for GWF without laugh ,Just A runner ??
That my view of Pve dung ,So why should A normal party take GWF while he second in everything ??
as Unstoppable : unstoppable skill still have old issue that lead it to Stop work while pve or pvp So we need to switch map so it can work
and Because of that GWF Gear and weapon sets Now all cause over milllion AD to buy them ,So please do something
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on multiple threads your just whining about 1 class and how rubbish it is, guess what no one cares...
go re roll another class if yours is crappy
Kaylee Krankenwagen, level 60 GF | Tavandruil Wayfinder, level 49 GWF | Aldith Langley, level 51 HR
I have been moaning and whining about the state of GWF since open beta, are you going to jump on me too?
We need new players to take up the fight to help out GWFs because us old guys have run out of steam.
I worry that when we no longer spam bug reports and roar on the boards, every bug will get fixed by changing its tooltip description.
I really like the GWF and we would be fine.... if we didn't have to compete with 4 other classes that do everything we do better.
A runner? A runner needs speed, gwf is slow. Sprint lasts half a second, you won't go through even one room. A runner needs to be not seen, gwf has no stelth. A runner needs to be resistant to CC, gwf is the most vulnerable class to CC. A runner needs to be able to get rid of mobs instantly (push, stun, slow), a gwf only has his 2h sword-shaped teaspoon.
Or by runner, did you mean running around in the final boss room, desperately trying to get out of all the red areas?
I think he speak about PvP against a focusing group. In PvE i don't see a stupid 'i'm always down'-Gwf.
Sounds like someone never played an archer in an Action MMO before.
Compare us to a TR. I can do single point damage better than all but the dedicated TR. In dungeons, that dedicated TR has to be decent enough to stay alive against the boss ... which I have yet to see one who didn't end up on the ground. But the GWF? Burst tank and decent gear, and we're still alive when they fall. And in PvP, TR's just can't hold the objective like we can, though they have the advantage of higher burst damage, we can also act as a guardian fighter if need be.
And let's consider that GF. My burst and outright dps is higher. Given the right equipment and setup, they're the only one's who can beat us on tank, but a titan set is more than enough to tank any dungeon boss or dungeon adds. Speed, unstoppable, armor and we're all set. Seriously, GWF's are still fully capable of tanking t2 dungeons and not breaking a sweat over it. And I know for a fact we can hold off two, sometimes three players (all five if they're poorly equiped) in pvp.
What about that AOE? Not comparable, I would agree. But considering I just said we're capable of higher alpha damage and higher tank than four-out-of-five other classes? Plus, we are without a doubt the most mobile of classes, with movement meaning a LOT to us and sprint lasting longer than anyone elses movement capabilities.
This is all according to what gear and feats you have setup. A player who doesn't sync with a class won't do well in that class, plain and simple. Or if they can't invest in their gear and work to improve it, they will suffer.
But don't support complaining about your class just in a hope the devs are stupid and give you boosts. That's an obvious fail, because if you win, you're still losing out, you know what I mean?
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EDIT: OOPS! double post
Don't make me laugh, cleric is the best tank in PvP.. who are you kidding?
So ?? Who will hear you and will ask for GWF in dung ??
GWF good at tank ?? ok fine But who will take him anyway ??
CN they don't need GF or GWF lmao ,DC, TR and CW only
But honestly ggyu. (you'r posting too many topics on the same issue)
Just put your gwf aside, and play another class. it's simple. and fun.
You can use your gwf in simple events, (sharandar and it's mini solo dungeons etc.) Pick flowers and chase pigs and chickens if that suits your fancy... (lol)
Personally I find that the gwf is probably the most fun class to play. (until it's fixed, it's uses/usefullness are limited)
But don't expect any changes in a long time, Why?
(They will need to fix the Unstoppable bug before changing anything, this is the number 1 fact).
*and it's not like it's a new bug*
When that's done, they can start **** balancing **** him, hopefully give him a decent property that makes him on par in usefulness as the other classes (pve).
"but we've seen what they call balancing lol, so I wouldnt hold my breath"
the big and mighty Aoe/Tank master?! (only class that has no Aoe CC) hehe nope only single target cc for the Aoe specc.
(just one of many "strange balances" for the gwf) *he can Slow mobs! =D
*don't get me wrong, if they' would fix the unstoppable, he would be fine (I wouldnt care if he has no role).
He can hold his own if it doesn't bugg out. Not the first of choices, but most ppl will take what they get even if it's a sloppy seconds =P
And because they use a rather broken hp/regen mech, pr class, the sentinel build made all the pvp'rs go QQ, and they nerfed all the other builds down with a HUGE Hammer.
As the saying goes "(Life isn't fair, wear a helmet) "
*A few EndGame Geared (1337 players, who have really hig regards of themselves..no names mentioned.) claimed that the nerfs/balances were fine and wouldn't affect the other build (non'sentinel' , *I allways laughed when reading those posts*.)
//now we have about 10pages pr. day where people are complaining about the gwf, (noticeably least wanted class in pve, and pvp (well with a bugged out main class feature it tends to be a rather useless class there too).
The only response from the Dev's is a rather Vague post claiming how they *balanced* the class
(personally I got the feeling the person who wrote that doesn't play one. "at least not while sober")
As a side-note, The Gwf isn't the only one who got poked with the brown end of the stick
The Cleric got a nazty poke as well. (but I guess they still got a more spec' role than the gwf even with their *Balance*
So at least, they still have a role to play
And to those QQ rogues who are still babling about their dmg nerf.. lol!
The rogue has it's hig dmg role still, you just can't really get the HUGE insta'auto'kill'anyone dmg without really specc'ing. but he will almost instakill most non' endgear players if you just equip him with even rather basic gear
It overkills any other class compared to gear. (just a fact). *not crying, I love playing my rogue in pvp* ;D
the only 2 classess i don't like playing pvp in , are the cleric and gwf anymore that is.. *used to be good fun before though*
I agree 10000%. GWF need some skills that make him valuable to bring to PvE.
So funny lol ,I know GWF is for solo dugeons and pick flowers
While you find that funny ,I don't feel it funny at all really
Fact is why shall be forced to make another account to grind ??
That called not fair at all
I know "life isn't fair"
But i know that GWF need some more love really
My favorite class too
But for people who want to make CN and this stuff ,nope lol
Hahh, totes!
funny, yes and no, my first char. and what I would define as my main char is the Gwf. (for obvious reasons, now is the least playable character) I do sharandar daily on him. some prof's, and that's it.
all other stuff is done on my other characters.
currently, I can't say I have a main character
as a result, I do less and less each day .. (was exited with the uppdate untill I found out what they really did with the gwf.)
Might be that the sentinel was OP in pvp, but the other builds were competitive finally. (the gwf used to be a second hand class before, so those who have been playing are used to it
use your second char slot. it's fun on the other classes to
Those who got their Gears pre'uppdate, can be content to be the only playable gwf around, and can boast of how uber they are.
personally, I find that when i enter a Dungeon and there is a gwf in the group (I'm like.. poor sod.. let's cross our fingers and hope he doesn't get his unstoppable bugged, because then it's a 4man run with x2 extra henchmen, who will be running from the respawn point allot .. lol). or stay's doing sum mumbo jumbo things in a corner? dunno (but we try to make him feel he's usefull. some know they'r not, others continue to be ignorant and think they'r doing allot of stuff while it's the others in the team who'r really doing all the real work lol).
*ignorance is bliss* ;D
No. Just No. a equally skilled/geared TR will now put out more damage in a run than an AOE spec. Tried and tested. Granted there is only a handful of TRs that can accomplish this feat but it all points back to removing AP per target from Roar. Before that little nerf there was not a class that could touch me in regards to PVE AOE DPS. Devs were not happy enough leading single target dps so they fed the uninformed masses that it was for class balance.
Yep they made him second class ,So what ??
That mean he not suppose to do dungs ??
What about TR isn't he pure pvp ?? He make Pve dungs more than GWF do lol
To those 'advising' to reroll another class, please refrain as it is inappropriate/insulting/uncalled for. People can, and should, play whatever they want to. There are problems that can/should be fixed, however that does not make a class obsolete. Now there is also a huge discrepancy in playskill between players (of all classes), and that is a major factor to party cohesiveness.
Can a dungeon be done more efficiently with 1 DC/3 CWs/1 TR? Sure. Then again not everyone is concerned about doing a dungeon in the absolute shortest time possible, and not everyone wants to explore every facet of the map. To each their own!
Anyways, enough of my mini-rant... Have fun and gg to everyone! :cool:
But I found even in the guild Im in with friendly people, they are reluctant to take a GWF over 2 TRs or 2 CWs for every dungeon except PK or MC, sometimes ToS. They are also starting to run more 2cw MC runs. Even though every run Ive done with them I end up top DPS or 2nd. Only 2 GWFS get regular runs. One is a sentinel tenebrous build like 10k. The other is 14k I think destroyer. Im 13k.
Sort of diminished my enjoyment. But I still play him, grabbing whatever runs I can.
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