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sh4dowrunn3r
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Armor gives additional resistance which isn't included in this charts, so to gain actual resistance you add the following to number you get from charts bellow:
- T1 has 11AC which is +5.5% resistance
- T2 has 12AC which is +6 % resistance
- So your armor's AC / 2
So with T2 armor and 2011 defense you have: 27.5 % + 6 % = 33.5 % damage resistance.
Resistance gain per point invested into defense
Diminishing returns for defense aren't as bad as some people led me to believe with posts on these forums. Keep in mind tho that for true graph of diminishing returns it would need to only take into account gain from last measurement and not entire gain like this graph does.
Resistance at various amounts of defense
Simpler graph for quick aprox defense to resistance conversion.
This charts only represent level 60 DC. Defense of 3302 is the most I managed to measure with no investment of AD using a couple nice blues. Click on thumbnails for larger images.
Armor gives additional resistance which isn't included in this charts, so to gain actual resistance you add the following to number you get from charts bellow:
- T1 has 11AC which is +5.5% resistance
- T2 has 12AC which is +6 % resistance
- So your armor's AC / 2
So with T2 armor and 2011 defense you have: 27.5 % + 6 % = 33.5 % damage resistance.
Resistance gain per point invested into defense
Diminishing returns for defense aren't as bad as some people led me to believe with posts on these forums. Keep in mind tho that for true graph of diminishing returns it would need to only take into account gain from last measurement and not entire gain like this graph does.
Resistance at various amounts of defense
Simpler graph for quick aprox defense to resistance conversion.
This charts only represent level 60 DC. Defense of 3302 is the most I managed to measure with no investment of AD using a couple nice blues. Click on thumbnails for larger images.
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Some question:
- the passiv Forseight was used during your test?
- this passiv is indicated into the reduction %?
- if you use it, has you the feat to improv it?
Also, those levels of Defense are far too low, given that you can get 7600+ Defense max (not easy) and 3500+ defense quite easily as DC with an augment class pet.
If you check out the Barracks (GF forums), you will see from their own detailed testing they find diminishing returns for Defense kicks in hard around 3,800-4,000 Defense.
Foresight doesn't change your stats on the sheet... it does work through... feated foresight adds another 11 % to resistance. (you can see it working in combat log)
First graph doesn't really represent anything as I pointed out - only exactly what it says how much resistance you get per point of defense at certain defense amounts. (it contains all info needed to make real graph of diminishing returns tho if someone really wants to do it)
Both graphs should be totally independent from feats, ability scores, class features - this is just pure defense.
I know I can get more, but not without wasting AD to do it :P. Maybe I'll try some higher numbers using linked spirit I'll see ...
From charts you can get this info for example:
Costs average of 27 defense to gain 0.1 % resistance in 3140-3302 bracket.
Costs average of 17 defense to gain 0.1 % resistance in 2011-2165 bracket.
So you can calculate diminishing returns just fine from this info.... but I agree higher numbers would be nice to see actual points where big changes happen. Other people that are build heavily into def can post theirs if they want - just make sure you don't have any buffs that affect resistance directly (instead of def) and to substract AC part of it.