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Drow raiding during the day just doesn't seem right

wildeye042wildeye042 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
edited May 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Rothe Valley just seems... wrong except for the one mission that is explicitly different in that it takes place during the night. I don't know if it's a 4e thing or if Cryptic just decided it didn't matter since you can create a Drow character that, obviously, has no problem functioning during the day but it just bugs me after years and years of Drow being creatures of the dark. Maybe change the time to at least dawn or dusk? Bonus for awesome sun-rise/set artwork.
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  • xaerostrikexaerostrike Member Posts: 26 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    like ive been saying... its not D&D anymore lol...
  • gnome08gnome08 Member Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    xaerostrike wrote: »
    like ive been saying... its not D&D anymore lol...

    haha^ but yea in 4e im fairly certain drow can come into the light, they get benefits in the dark though.
    honestly specific night time raids would be sick though
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    The priestess of Lolth has finally succeeded in refining a magical sunblock lotion.
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    xaerostrike wrote: »
    like ive been saying... its not D&D anymore lol...


    It's not D&D 3.5 anymore you mean.
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  • shorlongshorlong Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 286 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    I do believe that with everything that happened recently with Lolth, Drow were able to withstand a little more than they could before as far as sunlight. Or, they are from Eberron, were the drow are just a different race of elves and don't have those same restrictions
    My quest was deleted in July of 2013. There were no issues, it had not violated any rules. Was deemed a bug. That quest is still missing.

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  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    Lolth has accumulated enough power to rise from a regular goddess into a Greater Goddess due to the events in the Demonweb Pits, which went from one of the 666 layers of the Abyss into it's own full fledge dominion. She is attempting to create her own version of the dark weave. It's natural to reason that she might have granted her followers immunity to sunlight.
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    shorlong wrote: »
    I do believe that with everything that happened recently with Lolth, Drow were able to withstand a little more than they could before as far as sunlight. Or, they are from Eberron, were the drow are just a different race of elves and don't have those same restrictions

    If you read some of the latest Salvatore novels it talks about the Drow basically controlling Luskin and they aren't always skulking around in the shadows, in fact a entire drow regiment along with Driders follows Drizzt to Icewind Dale to seek revenge and they didn't move at night.
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  • evilkinglarryevilkinglarry Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 144 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    xaerostrike wrote: »
    like ive been saying... its not D&D anymore lol...
    D&D =/= Forgotten Realms. D&D =/= Greyhawk. D&D =/= Eberron . D&D =/= Planescape. D&D =/= Ravenloft. D&D =/= Darksun. D&D = a set of rules to help DMs and players in acting out a role in a setting of their choosing. Forgotten realms would be the setting that Cryptic chose. Much has changed in Forgotten Realms after the spellplague. For instance a country size chasm opened south of Chandalwood exposing a huge chunk of the Underdark. plus other issues have made the Underdark more accessible to the surface world. so Drow like everyone else must adapt or die.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    The game states that driders are the perfection of lolth, but in the lore they are failed drow who are transformed as punishment.
  • shorlongshorlong Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 286 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    skalt112 wrote: »
    The game states that driders are the perfection of lolth, but in the lore they are failed drow who are transformed as punishment.

    Remember, this is a new era. Things have changed. Lolth has broken free, the Demonweb is it's own entity now and has threatened to reach out to other areas. Driders are now at a point where they are chosen by Lolth, and some are even held in as high regard as her Priestesses.
    My quest was deleted in July of 2013. There were no issues, it had not violated any rules. Was deemed a bug. That quest is still missing.

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  • wildeye042wildeye042 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Here's my thing. My impression of the Drow, and the thing that got my heart pumping whenever I ran into them, was that they were scary wicked bad and the only thing that kept them from taking over Faerun was that they were hindered by their weakness to sunlight (and their tendency to stab each other in the back). Take that away and they're just some bad tempered elves. Perhaps that's by design so everyone can play out their Drizzt fantasies but I find the trend disheartening from a role playing perspective (though I understand it from a gaming perspective).
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    Driders are made from drows that has either gained the favor or anger of Lolth. It's both a blessing or a curse for the followers of Lolth. For those who gained the form as a blessing the drider give them exceptional powers as well as a sign of elevated status in the eyes of drow society. However those drow who has been cursed by Lolth also gain the body of the Drider however their minds are destroyed and they are crazy. Those are shunned in drow society.
  • wastingsanitywastingsanity Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    This is what happens when a company buys another. Wizards of the Coast bought Dungeons and Dragons, I forget the year and don't feel like looking it up. But eventually things will change because of new ideas and new creative leads. It will go against the lore of the universe because someone thought... hey this would be cool or I really like this race so let's lift the restrictions via story.
  • r3djayr3djay Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    skalt112 wrote: »
    The game states that driders are the perfection of lolth, but in the lore they are failed drow who are transformed as punishment.

    That is outdated. In new edition, being transformed into Drider is considered a blessing.
  • clockwerkninjaclockwerkninja Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Gygax is rolling in his grave.

    TSR would have been an amazing mmo publisher.
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  • wildeye042wildeye042 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    clockwerkninja wrote: »
    Gygax is rolling in his grave.

    May he only roll natural 20s. All hail the Icosahedron.
  • lokaidraxmartislokaidraxmartis Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    stormdrag0n wrote: »
    It's not D&D 3.5 anymore you mean.

    in 3.5 drow get a light blindness debuff of a whole -1 when fighting in sunlight... 4e i dont think get any negatives but may get a bonus in darkness... over all nothing has stopped drow from fighting in the sunlight they just prefer the darkness do to there natural darkvision/infravision all in all i agree that it seems off but not totally unfathomable.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    r3djay wrote: »
    That is outdated. In new edition, being transformed into Drider is considered a blessing.

    Guess I have been out of the D&D loop for too long. I was wondering what happened to turning undead, alignment, encumberence, spell componants, all those cool things i remember. These new rules are so different than what i knew before, that it doesn't even seem like D&D anymore.
  • stormdrag0nstormdrag0n Member Posts: 3,222 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    clockwerkninja wrote: »
    Gygax is rolling in his grave.

    .

    Every time I hear this self righteous remark, I think that folks have some messed up ideas about who Gary was, I had the pleasure of meeting him at Gencon back in 1980, and was able to converse with him during several Gencons after that Two of which he ran the infamous ToEE module. Gary was not a rules or edition lawyer point of fact he hated them, so the only thing he would be spinning in his grave over is how people attach their own beliefs and opinions to his name.

    Also TSR would have been a horrid MMO company, especially with Lorane (gamers aren't my social equal) Williams who was TSR for the majority of it's life until she ran it into the ground. She would have charged by the minuet and flat out squelched any form of creativity.
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  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    stormdrag0n wrote: »
    Gary was not a rules or edition lawyer point of fact he hated them, so the only thing he would be spinning in his grave over is how people attach their own beliefs and opinions to his name.

    One word: THAC0.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    chronomancer wrote: »
    One word: THAC0.

    thats not a word.
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    I've gone over some parts of the D&D 4.0e books and while it seems a lot has changed it seemed the new system is better and built for a modern roleplaying system.
  • wildeye042wildeye042 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Just curious and unwilling to test it at the moment but what happens when you create a new character? Do you get hit with the queue before or after character creation? If it's after, I would find that extremely frustrating after all that anticipatory activity.
  • wildeye042wildeye042 Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    wildeye042 wrote: »
    Just curious and unwilling to test it at the moment but what happens when you create a new character? Do you get hit with the queue before or after character creation? If it's after, I would find that extremely frustrating after all that anticipatory activity.

    Epic mispost. Sorry.
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