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PSA: Combat log doesn't get deleted. File will be huge.

teldarateldara Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
edited June 2013 in General Discussion (PC)
Combat log does not get deleted. It saves to your computer and continuously grow the more you play.

Source

Log can be found here:
*\Neverwinter\Live\logs\GameClient\Combatlog.txt

Mine is already 250mb~. AFAIK deleting it has no negative repercussions.

Great programing Cryptic. Fix it please.

Combat Logs are great and all when we can actually use it. But, give us an option to delete combat log everytime we log in or log off. An option in settings to turn it off would be great too.

A temporary fix:
/combatlog 0 - Turns it off
/combatlog 1 - Turns it on

It'll still have some data but not as much. Perhaps a very small percentage. I tested it. An hour of gameplay would net me 5mb with it on. With it off, still 1kb with very small changes to it.

Thanks to the Neverwinter Subreddit for supplying the Fix and Headsup.
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  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Wow this really needs a dev response.
  • somebobsomebob Member Posts: 1,887 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well that's not good. I wonder why it's turned on like that (as it is not in CO for sure, and I highly doubt for STO).
  • kitsunekisukitsunekisu Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Zomgerd mines 511mb O.O
  • charononuscharononus Member Posts: 5,715 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    251mb so about the same as the op
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    700 MB! Yeah that seems a bit crazy. Should be an option to turn that off.
  • spacejewspacejew Member Posts: 1,044 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    211mb, wondering if it goes off the combat chat tab...anyone have those turned off have a file to compare?
    MoF/Thaum CW SS/Thaum CW IV/Protector GF SW/Combat HR SM/Destroyer GWF WK/Executioner TR DO/Faithful DC
  • daowacedaowace Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Well, I had a passing thought about it writing a log file to disk, but never thought more of it.

    Glad this was alerted to me early, as the game runs off an SSD and constant writing is bad for it (so is size!). Only 20MB right now, but not bad. Shame we have to turn it off to stop this..
  • jetahjetah Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    691,386KB according to windows. Thanks Cryptic my SSD loves the constant writing :D
    *looks for the /sarcasm emote*


    anyone care to write a combat log parser? I'd love to know my actual DPS :D. nm i'm a cleric... :(
    Open the Launcher. Click Options near the top. Check Disable on-demand patching. This will download another couple of gigs.

    Ability Scores || All Attribute Roll Combinations || My Cleric Stream \o/
  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Yeah. Quit worrying about your SSD's. Assuming you have, say, a 128 GB SSD, with a conservative write endurance of 2000 cycles. At max it looks like you're not collecting more than 5 MB/hour of logs. This means your SSD has a theoretical lifetime of 51.2 million hours of Neverwinter play.

    Now you might complain that the log writing isn't spread over the entire disk. Ok, let's assume that the allocation is no more than 1% efficient. Even at that rate, your SSD will be good for 58 years of 7x24x365 Neverwinter play.

    Your SSD is fine.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • fongadorfongador Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 264 Bounty Hunter
    edited May 2013
    Wow really? Nice catch. Dang kind of amazing how some of you uncover these sort of things.
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    My SSD may be fine.. But I would still like the option to turn it off.
  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    rapticor wrote: »
    My SSD may be fine.. But I would still like the option to turn it off.

    Oh, I would too. Just pointing out the silliness of people acting like Cryptic has decided to trash their drives.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • teldarateldara Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    temporary fix posted.

    Thanks Reddit.
  • rapticorrapticor Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,078 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    For the non-Reddit people:

    Enable: /combatlog 1
    Disable: /combatlog 0


    Edit: Didn't see the first post edited with that info. My mistake!
  • daowacedaowace Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    elessym wrote: »
    Oh, I would too. Just pointing out the silliness of people acting like Cryptic has decided to trash their drives.
    It's the principle of it.

    I am constantly fighting against writes to my OS SSD against companies that appear too incompetent to develop things properly.

    For example, software that force downloads into a temporarily folder on our main drive, or force installs, or force extracts; I have hundreds of GB/s of needless writes to my disk over the year that I've used it ontop of all my own writes, which as a power user is a lot more than your average consumer. This IS lowering its lifespan.

    I have an old HDD that's been in my system for over 10 years with over 7 years of runtime recorded to it. An SSD is NOT going to last that long unless it's only being read from most of the time.

    Regardless, even if a drive had an estimated lifespan of 10 years at 20GB/s a day, I'd still act the way I do regarding writes to it. Lifespan is important to me, no matter what it is, including my own.
  • arenajunkiesarenajunkies Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Which config file do I need to put this command to make it permanent?
  • chronomancerchronomancer Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1,223
    edited May 2013
    Wow good to know.... I don't wanna have to find out one day that I have a 100 GB combat log just sitting there.
  • nectarprimenectarprime Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Whenever I hear people being scared about SSD read/writes I laugh to myself.
  • someoneodsomeoneod Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited May 2013
    Lol; 1.3 gig combat log. Fun times.
  • kazanlikkazanlik Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    What seems to be even worse, looking at the contents, it's not just my combat -- it's every combat event near me as well. I'm not sure to what distance, I haven't played around with it that much, but I put a tail on the log file and just stood near a campfire and watched line after line stream in as people wandered by. I don't mind my own combat stats being stored locally, but I don't need to log the whole of the zone as well. sheesh

    Thanks for the command to shut it down.
  • kevinf08kevinf08 Member Posts: 432 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    2,041,469 KB

    I think this is something the devs should look at changing
  • summerspamsummerspam Member, Neverwinter Beta Users Posts: 16 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Lol 1.5gb here
  • elessymelessym Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    kevinf08 wrote: »
    2,041,469 KB

    I think this is something the devs should look at changing

    It should definitely default to off.
    "Participation in PVP-related activities is so low on an hourly, daily, weekly, and monthly basis that we could in fact just completely take it out of STO and it would not impact the overall number of people [who] log in to the game and play in any significant way." -Gozer, Cryptic PvP Dev
  • montisaquadeismontisaquadeis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    You guys are lucky I have the game installed on my interal HDD and not the internal SSd as my SSd barely has any room left since I have my OS and a few games on it as it is. Some games have far shorter loading times from the SSD compared to the HDD and Diablo 3 is one of the big games that a SSD majorly helps with since its not constantly reading and writing to a slower HDD causing in game issues. Skyrim is another large game that a SSD helps in as well.

    I barely have over 1gb free I do not want to think about what would happen if I had this game installed on there instead of one of the others and the combat log maxed out the space on my SSD because of very bad programing

    So yeah fix this MAJOR ISSUE
  • knoteskadknoteskad Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Temp fix : /bind <key> combat log 0

    Hit that each time you log in (I have to do that for FoV anyway) and it stays put even if you change characters until you restart the whole game.

    Just stops it from saving to the file.
  • sparhawksparhawk Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Hero Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    Still no fix for this eh?
  • gdante7111111gdante7111111 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I cant see my log because it stops responding, I have to close the log when the windows pop comes up. saying its not responding, and I press close program.
  • cihuacoatlcihuacoatl Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian Users Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    My combat log is 2 G


    FIX THIS PLZ!!!!!!!
  • callmedeuxcallmedeux Member Posts: 182 Bounty Hunter
    edited June 2013
    2.5 Gigs.

    Deleted, this is dumb AF
  • rondaricrondaric Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited June 2013
    I wrote this to help with the problem. I like to use a Combat-Parser so type the following into Notepad:

    @echo off

    D:

    cd "\games\Neverwinter\Neverwinter\Live\logs\GameClient\"

    if not exist "CombatLog.log" goto ENDE

    if exist "CombatLog_2.log" del "CombatLog_2.log"

    ren "CombatLog.log" "CombatLog_2.log"

    :ENDE

    cd \games\Neverwinter

    neverwinter.exe

    exit

    Save the file as Neverwinter.BAT

    Change the paths to where you have installed Neverwinter (mine is on drive D:)

    Instead of using the installed Neverwinter link to start the game, use the .bat file. It will replace your previous Combatlog with Combatlog_2 after deleting the old combatlog_2. This way you will only ever have 2 Combatlogs each as large as the playsession. A new CombatLog will then be created when you start the game.

    By going to the properties of the .bat file, you can even change the icon to whatever you like.

    enjoy!
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