I have spent 80$ solely on store stuff, and I agree.
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nemesis788450Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
EVERYTHING in the zen shop is stuff you DONT need and is convenience, fluff or skins - thats the way a free to play game is supposed to be financed...besides, the ad-zen exchange rate has allready dropped around 20-25% and will continue to dropp, meaning its cheaper to exchange ad for zen and therefore purchase those things. <- because this kind of inflation always happens the more player play the game the longer - cryptic had to start with high prices...its as simple as that...it will be hard enough for them to earn money of it because a lot of people simply play for free...
besides, there really are 500 threads to this topic so there really isnt a need for another one regardless of how important you think your very detailed and thought out post is...
i have switched allready ad in the amound of 2000 zen so far - that i have found in game, and i have only played for about a week so...(by selling professions / purple stuff) - meaning playing a month and you can easily pay for the most expensive mount - thats MORE than fair
EVERYTHING in the zen shop is stuff you DONT need and is convenience, fluff or skins - thats the way a free to play game is supposed to be financed...besides, the ad-zen exchange rate has allready dropped around 20-25% and will continue to dropp, meaning its cheaper to exchange ad for zen and therefore purchase those things. <- because this kind of inflation always happens the more player play the game the longer - cryptic had to start with high prices...its as simple as that...it will be hard enough for them to earn money of it because a lot of people simply play for free...
besides, there really are 500 threads to this topic so there really isnt a need for another one regardless of how important you think your very detailed and thought out post is...
i have switched allready ad in the amound of 2000 zen so far - that i have found in game, and i have only played for about a week so...(by selling professions / purple stuff) - meaning playing a month and you can easily pay for the most expensive mount - thats MORE than fair
Actually, there is 1 thing EVERYONE needs on the zen store at some point. and that is respec. Which i think is the most idiotic thing to make people f'king pay for. like its either spend the $ to respec or do it for free by re rolling and leveling to 60 again.
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nemesis788450Member, Neverwinter Beta Users, Neverwinter Guardian UsersPosts: 0Arc User
Actually, there is 1 thing EVERYONE needs on the zen store at some point. and that is respec. Which i think is the most idiotic thing to make people f'king pay for. like its either spend the $ to respec or do it for free by re rolling and leveling to 60 again.
thats a fair point and one of the few points i grime about as well (others are enchantments and altering appearances). to be fair tough - you can switch feats for ad and you get enough ad quiet fast actually... and you will not respec powers that often because you can select 80% of them anyway...so what i think would be fair is to give every player a free respec at the beginning and every time a new paragon path is released (or potentially a major patch changes powers).
EVERYTHING in the zen shop is stuff you DONT need and is convenience, fluff or skins - thats the way a free to play game is supposed to be financed...besides, the ad-zen exchange rate has allready dropped around 20-25% and will continue to dropp, meaning its cheaper to exchange ad for zen and therefore purchase those things. <- because this kind of inflation always happens the more player play the game the longer - cryptic had to start with high prices...its as simple as that...it will be hard enough for them to earn money of it because a lot of people simply play for free...
besides, there really are 500 threads to this topic so there really isnt a need for another one regardless of how important you think your very detailed and thought out post is...
i have switched allready ad in the amound of 2000 zen so far - that i have found in game, and i have only played for about a week so...(by selling professions / purple stuff) - meaning playing a month and you can easily pay for the most expensive mount - thats MORE than fair
Because More bag slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Bank slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Respecs are "Convenience" when they are generally first free in every other game."
Because limiting daily Astral Diamond amounts but unlimiting how much to can buy via Zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making the auction house run on a item buy able via zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making gold practicaly worthless and forcing people to use the "limited" official currency is all about "Convenience."
Because making the best armor in the game purchasable with real money is "Convenience."
I've never seen such a pay for convenience game in my life. Sad thing is its an enjoyable game and I'd have no problem dropping lots of money on it if I didn't feel like I had to. I played Vanilla WoW though so I'm no stranger to grinding. Guess I'll just get the nice things later than most cause Im not gonna pay $10 for bags or $6 for a respec I'll just get all that fluff with Astral diamonds.
Because More bag slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Bank slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Respecs are "Convenience" when they are generally first free in every other game."
Because limiting daily Astral Diamond amounts but unlimiting how much to can buy via Zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making the auction house run on a item buy able via zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making gold practicaly worthless and forcing people to use the "limited" official currency is all about "Convenience."
Because making the best armor in the game purchasable with real money is "Convenience."
Do I need to go on?
"every other game" thats just such an idiotic statement...which game? what revenue model?
besides, bag space is pretty much the pinnacle of convenience - there are things you really can whine about, but sersiously cmon...i know you kidz want everything for free right now...i prefer paying a little bit and getting a game over not getting anything - in case you havent noticed, the game industry is pretty much on a downward spiral becaue companies dont make money on it anymore except wow and cod nr 237
oh and by the way, i played through the whole game with just the 3 bags that you get and i did just fine - 80% of the stuff you pick up is useless crapp anyway and in high lvls you will not pick up green stuff anymore anyway cause you find better things through quests/dungeons or because you dont have the scrolls for it anyway...
"every other game" thats just such an idiotic statement...which game? what revenue model?
besides, bag space is pretty much the pinnacle of convenience - there are things you really can whine about, but sersiously cmon...i know you kidz want everything for free right now...i prefer paying a little bit and getting a game over not getting anything - in case you havent noticed, the game industry is pretty much on a downward spiral becaue companies dont make money on it anymore except wow and cod nr 237
oh and by the way, i played through the whole game with just the 3 bags that you get and i did just fine - 80% of the stuff you pick up is useless crapp anyway and in high lvls you will not pick up green stuff anymore anyway cause you find better things through quests/dungeons or because you dont have the scrolls for it anyway...
Well aren't you a special little snowflake. There is a reason people like you turn into whales. When I say every other game. I mean every other game currently in existence and successful in a western market. If you seriously don't see the flaws in this game then you must lead an amazingly ignorant life and I envy you. I wish I had it so easy.
More specifically if you think this sort of game design is acceptable in today's markets. Well there is nothing I can do to save you from yourself. You are a lost cause, enjoy throwing your money away.
Well aren't you a special little snowflake. There is a reason people like you turn into whales. When I say every other game. I mean every other game currently in existence and successful in a western market. If you seriously don't see the flaws in this game then you must lead an amazingly ignorant life and I envy you. I wish I had it so easy.
More specifically if you think this sort of game design is acceptable in today's markets. Well there is nothing I can do to save you from yourself. You are a lost cause, enjoy throwing your money away.
Go look at SW:TOR and their F2P model. This game is generous by comparison.
Go look at SW:TOR and their F2P model. This game is generous by comparison.
That game is designed as a subscription game, and for $15 a month you get everything, which is far cheaper than this game where even bag spaces can ONLY be bought with real money (don't think anyone has earned 430,000 Astral Diamonds yet by grinding - the cap on refining AD alone would stop that). Other games *shock horror* actually let you buy bag space and respecs with game currency :rolleyes:
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f2p people will probably stay, but people with money will be off to some of the games coming up soon.
Be respectful, remember, you PLAY the game at your convenience, they WORK at no ones."
EVERYTHING in the zen shop is stuff you DONT need and is convenience, fluff or skins - thats the way a free to play game is supposed to be financed...besides, the ad-zen exchange rate has allready dropped around 20-25% and will continue to dropp, meaning its cheaper to exchange ad for zen and therefore purchase those things. <- because this kind of inflation always happens the more player play the game the longer - cryptic had to start with high prices...its as simple as that...it will be hard enough for them to earn money of it because a lot of people simply play for free...
besides, there really are 500 threads to this topic so there really isnt a need for another one regardless of how important you think your very detailed and thought out post is...
i have switched allready ad in the amound of 2000 zen so far - that i have found in game, and i have only played for about a week so...(by selling professions / purple stuff) - meaning playing a month and you can easily pay for the most expensive mount - thats MORE than fair
Actually, there is 1 thing EVERYONE needs on the zen store at some point. and that is respec. Which i think is the most idiotic thing to make people f'king pay for. like its either spend the $ to respec or do it for free by re rolling and leveling to 60 again.
thats a fair point and one of the few points i grime about as well (others are enchantments and altering appearances). to be fair tough - you can switch feats for ad and you get enough ad quiet fast actually... and you will not respec powers that often because you can select 80% of them anyway...so what i think would be fair is to give every player a free respec at the beginning and every time a new paragon path is released (or potentially a major patch changes powers).
Because More bag slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Bank slots are "Convenience" when they are free in every other game.
Respecs are "Convenience" when they are generally first free in every other game."
Because limiting daily Astral Diamond amounts but unlimiting how much to can buy via Zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making the auction house run on a item buy able via zen is all about "Convenience."
Because making gold practicaly worthless and forcing people to use the "limited" official currency is all about "Convenience."
Because making the best armor in the game purchasable with real money is "Convenience."
Do I need to go on?
Same here, $60 on Founders Pack and $20 on two 24 slot bags.
Would be nice if stuff was a bit cheaper, but compared to PWI back in 2007-2009 prices are much better.
The in game content/farming is pretty fun and rewarding as well.
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"every other game" thats just such an idiotic statement...which game? what revenue model?
besides, bag space is pretty much the pinnacle of convenience - there are things you really can whine about, but sersiously cmon...i know you kidz want everything for free right now...i prefer paying a little bit and getting a game over not getting anything - in case you havent noticed, the game industry is pretty much on a downward spiral becaue companies dont make money on it anymore except wow and cod nr 237
oh and by the way, i played through the whole game with just the 3 bags that you get and i did just fine - 80% of the stuff you pick up is useless crapp anyway and in high lvls you will not pick up green stuff anymore anyway cause you find better things through quests/dungeons or because you dont have the scrolls for it anyway...
Well aren't you a special little snowflake. There is a reason people like you turn into whales. When I say every other game. I mean every other game currently in existence and successful in a western market. If you seriously don't see the flaws in this game then you must lead an amazingly ignorant life and I envy you. I wish I had it so easy.
More specifically if you think this sort of game design is acceptable in today's markets. Well there is nothing I can do to save you from yourself. You are a lost cause, enjoy throwing your money away.
Go look at SW:TOR and their F2P model. This game is generous by comparison.
every other game currently in existence and successful in a western market.
That game is designed as a subscription game, and for $15 a month you get everything, which is far cheaper than this game where even bag spaces can ONLY be bought with real money (don't think anyone has earned 430,000 Astral Diamonds yet by grinding - the cap on refining AD alone would stop that). Other games *shock horror* actually let you buy bag space and respecs with game currency :rolleyes: