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bachus1234
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I will stick to my major wishes...
-more mobs usable in encounters
-multi group PvP content design
-group content, and possibly dual group and 4 group scaling..
-scripting engine to script your own bossfights
-voice acting for quests
So what are your wishes for post release?
-more mobs usable in encounters
-multi group PvP content design
-group content, and possibly dual group and 4 group scaling..
-scripting engine to script your own bossfights
-voice acting for quests
So what are your wishes for post release?
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I want to make port llast! hope I got that right. Thats for my fourth and final quest of me campaign.
I also want everything you listed and everything people below me listed!!!
I want you to give all your beer to me. You want that too? Sweet, thanks!
Yeah, plenty of items on the wish list for the future Foundry. Shared authoring is near the top of my list, as are cutscenes.
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oh and worth while loot for the people who ran the content.
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Customizable encounters.
Those are top of my list currently.
Grrrrrr we dwarves not that bright, but can't have me beer without a fight! and here comes the song!
Ohhhh a dwarf is not that bright.
ye can't have me beer...
without a fight!
In a tavern filled with bullies.
ye can't have me beer...
without a fight!
dancin with the lasses.
fillin up me glasses..
you got it!
Ye can't have me Beer!
Without a FIGHT!
Bwahahaha!!!!
Edit: got to stay on topic! Double +1 on voice acting so I can sing these songs to everyone!
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What does bosses, bosses and bosses bosses mean to you?
Depending on what it means has a huge bearing on what it means to be implemented.
Does Bosses mean tough mobs, HP buckets, things only 5+ players can take on?
Does it mean something scary like, full scripting and custom everything?
Let me say that I like the idea of bosses but i like the defined version of bosses a lot more!
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A boss can be a gauntlet, Keeping someone alive, preventing someone from achieving something, persuasion, etc. The mobs between bosses can be difficult, but a boss is a stepping stone.
Edit: Another thing, changing the numbers is a lazy mans way of making an encounter harder. In my DnD games, HP is a mistake buffer.
Here is my vision of a Boss
A tough HP bucket that is larger than normal mobs (in most cases) and has a drop down menu of unique abilities what we can assign, weather that be at 75% /50%/25% life summon adds or gain a new ability or change ability... something that only 5 players can take on.
It should be a separate challenge all on it's own.
Nothing is better than having a Big baddie that has it's own unique mechanics for people to figure out how to bring them down and celebrate when they do.
Also since this is a 5 man encounter and only a 5 man group can bring it down... you could limit the fight to 1 per map on the budget and then have it drop blue loot since the fight would not be a walk in the park.
This thing does not need to be scripted to the environment it can behave in the exact same way the normal mobs do, basically we can take Any costume/actor and create a boss encounter out of them. I submit the broodmother costume for example.
It's a big costume and a large collision box but still navigates fine in the environment I built for her.
( you gotta admit Robobo we wasted that spider in milliseconds it's anti-climatic lol)
I would just like to take the Broodmother a step further and hit a tool tip check box that says BOSS and when I check it...BAM!! She now has a large HP bucket and a drop down that has all the telegraphed abilities in game, now I can assign a few of those abilities to my new boss creation similar in the way I assign backdrops to a map.
In addition, there is a "When HP" tool tip that I can assign to those abilities.
I want that broodmother to ROAR and the entire area quake... should scare the adventurers out of their boots.
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I would be extremely excited if we were given the option to adjust what abilities they had, how much damage each ability does, etc, Or even a list of abilities, buffs, debuffs, passives, etc.
I'm currently making a script for a foundry, but I'm working around with what I have. I wanted to have undead and kobolds fighting over land. Having a giant ungodly undead fighting off the kobolds, but the fight starts with the giant undead at 25% (as in the kobolds can't damage him under 25%). Have other undead rush in bring debuffs for the living and buffs for the dead, meanwhile the Kobolds bring buffs for the living and debuffs for the dead. You are living, but everyone wants you dead.
Fighting rat men while their boss(literal sense this whole thing is a boss fight!) is coming to aid his men. The more mobs you kill before he arrives the easier he will be.
Oh different boss lol
I believe boss fights depend on the story. I will list your normal average dungeon and how I would excpect bosses.
1. little bosses leading to the main bosses are dumb brutes. Lots of HP, Tank Spank! Maybe couple tricks.
2. Bossess closer to the main boss, his/her elite guards. A lot brighter very good combat, or special attacks.
3. The main boss, Tuff encounter. Now lets look at another outlook! A story of a goblin. A small goblin with one arm happens to become a leader of golems.. well if you clear out the golems, I bet the one armed goblin going to be a cake walk.
I do enjoy a easy end boss sometimes... When the road to em has seemed almost imposible then you realize it some darn gnome incharge of everything. So you give em a big dwarven boot!
My look on bosses they can be all kinds of different shapes/sizes and difficulty
Boss:: 1; unique npc that has the life and damage abilities that would take a 5-man team with average or better gear, average or better tactic,a solid 3+ full mins of combat to defeat with a 90% chance of success.( Yes there should always be the thrill of a chance to lose)
2: unique npc that has the life and damage abilities that would take a 3-man team with average or better gear, average or better tactic,a solid 5+ full mins of combat to defeat with a 50% chance of success.( to give example of what difficulty is on average)
3: Gear drops should NOT be better then same level official dungeons.
4; 1-2 players NO matter the gear. NO matter the tactics should have 0% chance to win a Boss.
ELITE;; 1 NPC that is about 20-25% of the strength of a Boss npc in all ways.
As I understand it right now foundrys strongest encounter is about 15% of a "boss" npc at its best.( this of course is a guess in general but ive seen near every video made on it and ive done a dozen+ foundry runs.)
Enable to have repeatable quests as quest hub for campaigns to host your own quest hub (Let's check Ulyxos' tavern if they have anything new to offer me) or even to provide player made player housing.
To provide tie-in between foundry and zen/AD/AH market to permit marketing of player made housing/menagerie as well as creation of vanity items unique to foundry merchants.
Would be great to be able to share quest instances all players on a specific quest, could set up Weekly Brawls in the slums or have players compete over objectives.
Enable "mini-game" type quest. Game of three dragon ante at the inn.
Have quest that can have continuous reward mode (example : you have a quest to hold out the monster comming through a gate and push them back but the monsters keep comming until you push them back and close the gate. The full objective is not attainable realistically under 5 man, but with fewer player you can hold on until you get relief from guards. You get reward depending on how long you held out before calling in reinforcements.)
I'm not exactly on board with quest hubs. Don't get me wrong I would love the player housing, personal markets. That would probably be on a different plan more than a foundry. I would, however, love sharing quest instances with all players. Use scripts to make those kind of mini-games.
I believe it'll be up to the creator to make a back-up plan if the team wasn't good enough to do X. Not saying that isn't a bad idea, making a instance solo-able and 5 man-able is admiral.
Doh!!! you ate my link the first time.
With no link! Are you mad, man!
http://nw-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?143401-BOSSES-what-do-they-look-like-to-you-(help-the-devs-out-on-what-we-want-bosses-to-be)
There be links!
I've logged over 240 hours in the foundry, played with many, if not all of the different encounters, tried grouping them, spreading them out, even learned to make them respawn.. (take a multi actor encounter and hide one of the actors far from agro range, kill the rest and wait. they respawned.) And I have heard what was said about having to create entire environments for a boss encounter to be possible in foundry. I may not be an expert, but I don't see the logic in that train of thought. Allow me to explain.
We currently have 3 difficulties easy, standard and hard. I can not for the likes of me understand why there can not be harder (elite) and harder still (boss). Using the very same encounters already in the foundry, but increase their HP, and increase their combat stats, both Combat and Defense. For those flagged as Elite Encounters, I would not be against simply increasing HP and a slight increase in combat power (DPS) if even there is no change to their actual attacks and or skills. Making them just harder than hard.
While I do not think this is the answer to a boss encounter, it is, however, a quick and immediate solution to giving us battles worthy of group battles. Add an HP BAR top center of our screens like other boss fights and a RAGE to encounters flagged as boss type encounters, perhaps the fastest way would be to trigger a RAGE as an HP trigger, we have already seen that it IS possible to increase scale as some encounters already do this. The excuse of needing environments that support boss encounters is a weak one. Consider that there are already encounters that work in EVERY room/map. Consider we already have encounters of varied difficulty. Consider my suggestion, a temporary, but effective means to which a boss encounter can be made readily available to foundry authors. I think, that the authors are responsible enough to test fully any encounter to ensure that our boss encounter happens in a room or map where the boss and players both have space to complete the encounter with out getting the boss stuck in geometry, or any of the other previously mentioned concerns the devs had for the boss encounters. If not, well, I am pretty sure players will just not attempt any further foundry content from an author who does not. So put some of that responsibility onto us. Please.
In my personal view this would buy the development team some time in order to concentrate on developing real, more engaging boss encounters worthy of the Neverwinter game.
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1) has a boss hitpoint bar
2) can trigger things at 30% health (despawn itself and respawn a fresh copy)
3) is a singleton encounter somewhat harder than a "hard" encounter
To me Bosses means being able to make that last fight epic. Being able to scale said boss from say a single player experience to a full on you have to have 5 people to kill this thing. Or even a Raid boss where you need 10 - 15 people to kill it.
I like the idea of being able to have a boss go through phases. Like for example a raid boss at the end of a story about the undead, have a black dragon be defeated (phase one) only to rise again as a draco litch (phase two) and then finally have to defeat the litch itself (phase three final phase).
A boss fight at the end of a quest, or story gives the player a deeper sense of accomplishment. "Oh remember that time i defeated the goblin king! His pot helmet made it hard to kill him"
I would like to see full on scripting, as well as buckets of abilities, or behaviors you can drag and drop into a boss. Pathing options for AI so that you can make sure your boss doesnt get gimped on geometry.
Bosses in foundry content is essential.
That's my only wish and I am sure I'm not the only one.
Yes, we need "boss-like" encounters and I figure there are two ways to approach it:
I vote number 1 - Give us an encounter that we can call a "boss" as soon as possible that is basically just a tougher version of a "hard" encounter. This will allow us to placate players who expect or hope to find a boss at the end-quest portion of Foundry works as well as placate those incoming authors who are likely *expecting* to find something like this. It can be limited to one single placement, perhaps (like the super chest) so it can't be overused/exploited.
Then, look into adding author options for creative use later, as the development continues on.
This, to me, just seems to be the most feasible and agreeable way to go.
Just my too-sense. Others' mileage will vary.
I would suggest it can be approached from 2 angles:
The first being the ability to customize certain aspects of Encounters to make them more or less challenging. If you pay for the D&D site at Wizards of the Coast you can actually go to the Monster List and customize each monster. I would imagine the most important aspects of that from an MMO standpoint is giving them more or less HP's as well as adding\removing powers from other monsters for increased customization. (Perhaps you can put a limit to the number of powers a certain Encounter can have both max and min)
The second being the ability to generate scripts in an effort to edit behavior and allow for adds\reinforcements to appear at certain percentages of health for the boss \ mini-boss. This can also be used in conjunction with the above. The more powers\hit points and adds you include with the fight the more the reward should be reflected in the final loot.
I sit down and think "I will write up something nice" then I see all the same ideas I have posted throughout the thread.
So I concur with much of what has been said here. I think Apoc covers a good majority of my thoughts as well as gives limitations that could fit into the foundry without completely opening up the tool to exploitation.
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Bad, Bosses mean ALL of that to me.
Why should it be compartmentalized and mutually exclusive?
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