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jimmyhein
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How do wizzard learns spell is there only what you can learn from wizzard trainer or do you pick them up an learn like that as the do in skyrim ware you find scrolls an books ?
do we seee a list of spells we can learn i dont wonna endt up like wow have 20 spells thats it. can you make wands an stuff ???
do we seee a list of spells we can learn i dont wonna endt up like wow have 20 spells thats it. can you make wands an stuff ???
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You might want to read the second post of my FAQ. This is Fourth Edition. Spells are non Vancian. It details the game system both tabletop and the MMO conversion, but I'll summarize here:
Wizards do not learn powers (not called spells) in the game by trainers. In the tabletop version they use a spellbook to choose from two "daily" powers per level that gains this type of power every time they rest for 6 hours (unlike all other classes which just get one power per daily level access,) but in the MMO game, they will "unlock" this daily power at a certain level, and it is accessible by doing class specific things filling an "action point globe bar." This works like a limit break or Ultimate Attack. For the wizard, casting control powers (wizard powers) fills this up once you get these daily powers.
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Aye 4e is <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font>.
really? and how much have you played 4e? how much do you know about its strength and weaknesses? Have you ever designed or conducted a 4e campaign? Or are you just lashing out at something which is just different from what you are used to play?
The powers system are two completely different Vancian and non-Vancian. This is why. I'm not going to go into a whole history of the working and cross-mechanics, but just explain the basics of that's why.
This is your opinion. Frankly i think that 4e is the most balanced edition ever made, and this is something. It has some faults, but compared to the "nerf-fiesta" that is 3.5 it's a masterwork.
This would be strange in a system based on 4e...
St. Augustinus
Its nice to hear from someone who share my opinion. As I said before - Sir Maximus Minimus the third will have no place in the fourth age...
Well, actually there's some min-max also in 4e (as in every table game), but compared to the horrible abominations it spawned in 3.5 it's like drinking fresh water. Most of the worst things in 4e were addressed as soon as possible by wizard: the only "broken" build i remember about was the feycharged, which was errated after a couple of months.
The 4th edition is far from being perfect, it has its issues... but imho doesn't really deserve the "fail" tag, and imho it gets the job done much better than 3.5
St. Augustinus
That's true. But it's only inspired by 4e, allowing ways for it to work in the MMO tanslation. Hwever it's NOT inspired by 2e so no way are we going to "lean spells" either Aero, sory. The game will use an MMO method of acquiring powers, but allow them to be swapped out at rest zones or campfires.
*glances at denkasaeba's sig.* What you saying to me? Fermat me? Fermat you!
Seriously, nice to see a mathematical proof as a sig for a change!
Agreed, but that is not all. There are not many instant death spells and no insta death abilities for player character. This also contributes to the demise or Sir Maximus Minimus and Lady Minimus Maximus.
There are more nifty features which make sure that every class is strong at every level - while still maintaining the need of party by sequestering them to defined roles (primary depending on class, and secondary role depending on choice).
Even multiclassing(hybrid) is built in a way to make sure it is not exploited by the above mentioned sir and lady like before.
So my point is that inherent mechanics of the game itself allow you to easily balance anything unlike the min-max fest which DDO has become and the fact that there is no solution for that fest when following 3/3.5e game mechanics.
Your non-instant deaths shall not go in vain!
*Polymorphs them into portable chocolate versions, munches*
WHAT?! Now that's cannibalism TOO?!
Well, that seriously deserves a trollface as a tag
Yeah, there are very few instant death "objects" in 4e. One of them is the Sleep spell line, when used decently. That's imho, obiouvsly.
St. Augustinus
Nahh, still required a separate action after the spell power was cast when helpless. Act and they die on the spot,thus the term instant.
Bite your tongue, balance is for the weak that can't build and is
Will be interesting though
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
but as a game system i think it could work quite fine since the limitations in a game is completely different then those of a campaign.
That also brings to note how in, I think it was the Keynote for Next, where they said that 3rd and 4th had been designed by "game developers" where as D&D Next is being developed by actual D&D Playing Developers - that they wanted to get the game back to what it was meant to be, about the players for the players and less strict on rules, putting the game power back into the hands of the DM and not "Rules."
It's also been said that, which I really loved to hear, that NWO is being designed by Developers that actively play PnP!
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The devil is afraid that everyone will be fighting on the fair grounds?
There's no such thing as "fair" it's something the gods made up to con the masses
Neverwinter Thieves Guild
Sshhh... you can't post divine secrets on public forums. "They" may hear and lock you inside iron maiden or burn you at stake ...
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Wait I am a they too!
*gets up and puts matchsticks in his pocket*
Thank God there's no "gate" in 4e
St. Augustinus
NW may be similar to GW2 where you just acquire new abilities on the fly (or at least without trainers). I don't think we actually know yet.
I don't like the whole "learn new abilities on the fly". Maybe I'm too used to PWI but I like having to go to a trainer or whatever.
St. Augustinus
QFT /10char