test content
  • Games
  • Social
  • Arc News
  • Support
  • Zen
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Forums > Home› Neverwinter Discussion › General Discussion (PC)

State of exchange vendor in mod 16

frodnikkfrodnikk Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 20 Arc User
in General Discussion (PC)
From unbound to bound the enchants u exchange. That smells disaster and whoever uses that vendor is same as destroying his ad by deleting them...It needs to be fixed or this game well have a tragic end...

Comments

  • kiraskytowerkiraskytower Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    frodnikk said:

    From unbound to bound the enchants u exchange. That smells disaster and whoever uses that vendor is same as destroying his ad by deleting them...It needs to be fixed or this game well have a tragic end...

    I agree that I think this is a bad decision on the part of the developers, but it's not really an unexpected one. Personally I won't be using it for normal (stat based) enchants, I'll be exchanging those on the auction house like before - after all, just because I need armor pen (or whatever) instead of power doesn't mean nobody will buy my rank 14 Radiant. Unfortunately, for weapon and armor enchants that's not really an option as many of the current "Go to" enchants will become valueless (Looking at Fey touched and Negation here). In this case, I'd rather trade my negation for a barkshield, even if it is bound, than try to sell it on the Auction House (I mean really ... who is going to buy an enchantment that adds 0.01% to your Damage resistance???).

    It's not a perfect solution ... but at least the devs give us the OPTION to use it.
    PandorasMisfits_Logo_175_zpskpytcqxc.png
    Winter Lily (CW) / Winter Rose (DC) / Winter Ivy (HR)
    Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
  • kreatyvekreatyve Member, Neverwinter Moderator, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 10,545 Community Moderator
    Basically, the only other option they had with the exchange vendor would be to not have one at all. The tech on the vendors is not able to read bound states, and would most likely take a year or longer to get in place. If you don't want your enchants to be bound, then trade friends or use the AH.
    My opinions are my own. I do not work for PWE or Cryptic. - Forum Rules - Protector's Enclave Discord - I play on Xbox
    Any of my comments not posted in orange are based on my own personal opinion and not official.
    Any messages written in orange are official moderation messages. Signature images are now fixed!
    kuI2v8l.png
  • darkheart#6758 darkheart
    darkheart#6758
         Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    > @kreatyve said:
    > Basically, the only other option they had with the exchange vendor would be to not have one at all. The tech on the vendors is not able to read bound states, and would most likely take a year or longer to get in place. If you don't want your enchants to be bound, then trade friends or use the AH.

    Yea and take a major loss in value. The reasoning behind this change was to prevent certain people from profiting off the change.
    So instead of trying to figure out how to do that, they went the easy route and made everybody suffer the consequences.
    Again, another bad decision in the list of bad decisions made laterly.
  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    They should remove the vendor before yhe module goes live. Not having a vendor will cause far less grief than people discovering that their enchants are now account bound.
    "We have always been at war with Dread Vault" ~ Little Brother
  • mightyerikssonmightyeriksson Member Posts: 842 Arc User
    kreatyve said:

    Basically, the only other option they had with the exchange vendor would be to not have one at all. The tech on the vendors is not able to read bound states, and would most likely take a year or longer to get in place. If you don't want your enchants to be bound, then trade friends or use the AH.

    Where does the information about a "year or longer" time-frame come from?
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,470 Arc User
    kiraskytower said:

    . who is going to buy an enchantment that adds 0.01% to your Damage resistance???).

    I will depends on how much discount of price it will be. :)
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,470 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    Or, they can do what Neverwinter did long time ago. They had a staff in game and trade enchantment with player "in person". They don't need a dev to do that.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • kiraskytowerkiraskytower Member Posts: 455 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    plasticbat said:

    kiraskytower said:

    . who is going to buy an enchantment that adds 0.01% to your Damage resistance???).

    I will depends on how much discount of price it will be. :)
    I expect people WILL do just this ... sell the ones they do not want for whatever they can get for it. I also suspect people will be buying these (now very cheap) enchants intending to trade them for a bound enchant. After all? If you could get a rank 13 Barkshield for 500K, would you mind that much if the end product ended up being bound?
    plasticbat said:

    Or, they can do what Neverwinter did long time ago. They had a staff in game and trade enchantment with player "in person". They don't need a dev to do that.

    Yes .. they did do this once upon a time with unbound legendary mounts. As I recall it was a real pain for the players as they were only on at certain times and you had to find the right instance in PE to find the person. It worked then because not everyone had a legendary mount. However .. pretty much everyone has an armor and a weapon enchant they will want to exchange, so they would have to pay a staffer (several probably) to stand in various instances of PE and trade enchants. For how long would this be reasonable to keep up? Do it 24/7 to catch all the players? In 5 or so instances? You are starting to talk a good number of man-hours there .. and that COSTS.
    Post edited by kiraskytower on
    PandorasMisfits_Logo_175_zpskpytcqxc.png
    Winter Lily (CW) / Winter Rose (DC) / Winter Ivy (HR)
    Pandora's Misfits Guild Leader
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,470 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    kiraskytower said:


    plasticbat said:

    kiraskytower said:

    . who is going to buy an enchantment that adds 0.01% to your Damage resistance???).

    I will depends on how much discount of price it will be. :)
    I expect people WILL do just this ... sell the ones they do not want for whatever they can get for it. I also suspect people will be buying these (now very cheap) enchants intending to trade them for a bound enchant. After all? If you could get a rank 13 Barkshield for 500K, would you mind that much if the end product ended up being bound?
    No, that is not my reason I want to buy. I want to buy it to hoard it so that one day it could be useful.

    In mod 6, people were dumping barkshield (and many others) like nothing. Only if I stocked that up back then.
    You never know what will be the favourite in the future.
    *** The game can read your mind. If you want it, you won't get it. If you don't expect to get it, you will. ***
  • dionchidionchi Member Posts: 919 Arc User
    edited April 2019
    - DELETED -
    DD~
  • aerhythia#3255 aerhythia
    aerhythia#3255
         Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    I hope if things stay this way they at least put a warning that any exchanged enchants will become bound to account, what bound to account means and that they can't be exchanged anymore once the exchange vendor is gone.

    Also if you get a lower rank item, exchange for a bound one and upgrade it. Spending refinements, marks & wards on a bound item... considering bound enchantments are so uncommon (outside of quartermaster bags) it's looks like kind of a trap. It's not really obvious.

  • havlockehavlocke Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    Are they going to be Bound to Account or Bound to Character? I can live with it if it becomes Bound to Account. Bound to Character will mean I'll have to be very careful of what I swap to.
  • aerhythia#3255 aerhythia
    aerhythia#3255
         Member Posts: 173 Arc User
    Bound to account.
  • havlockehavlocke Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    aerhythia#3255 said:

    Bound to account.

    Ah cool, thanks. In that case, I don't have any issues. But that's just for me. I don't buy and resell stuff on the AH. I just buy for my own toons to use.
  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    The only reason I can see behind this move. This is done to prevent people from buying up a mess of Eldritch cheap and selling them as bonding when the campaign goes Live. Potentially if not kept in check the conversion of a cheap weapon enchantment could do damages to the overall prices of all the weapon enchantments in the AH. It doesn't effect what you have attached to your character, in a bank, or inventory. So only the ones you are unsatisfied with are exchanged for your personal use.
    wb-cenders.gif
  • havlockehavlocke Member Posts: 222 Arc User
    Yeah, that's probably right. For people that are just changing stuff for themselves, it makes little difference. But if you were planning on speculating by buying a whole bunch of "useless" enchants now and flood the market afterwards ...
  • flippy#8481 flippy
    flippy#8481
         Member Posts: 198 Arc User
    sandukutupu said:

    The only reason I can see behind this move. This is done to prevent people from buying up a mess of Eldritch cheap and selling them as bonding when the campaign goes Live.

    intelligent scalpers would sell the Eldritch as Eldritch for the buyer to convert


  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    flippy#8481 said:

    sandukutupu said:

    The only reason I can see behind this move. This is done to prevent people from buying up a mess of Eldritch cheap and selling them as bonding when the campaign goes Live.

    intelligent scalpers would sell the Eldritch as Eldritch for the buyer to convert
    True. This is a sad fact, when the last loot box dropped companion troves, they got misfiled into the mounts section of the AH. From the very beginning I could buy the companion box 50% cheaper than the companion. Then you could open the box and sell the Erinyes of Belial at twice the price of the box. I don't know how long that went on, but I didn't think it was quite fair to the uninformed buyer. To this date the developers never fixed it, by moving it to the correct category.

    The eldritch sold on the AH after LIVE most likely will increase in value but I don't see that as the same thing. Most players will remain in the dark and some might even throw away their eldritch seeing they no longer have purpose. This is not the fault of the development team or the players who know better, it is on the player for not taking an active interest in the community. I personally will mention it in chat after the date, but beyond that, there is very little anyone can do.

    In the end, this will lessen the damage to the AH from those flooding it with conversions.
    wb-cenders.gif
Sign In or Register to comment.