Patch Notes: NW.105.20181121b.28

nitocris83

Patch Notes for tomorrow's maintenance are now available:

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/neverwinter/news/detail/11102223

sandukutupu

Scroll of Mass Life: This item can no longer be used from inventory while dead.
Scroll of Life: This item can no longer be used from the inventory when dead.

I don't use these items, but isn't that their primary function?

isaacorion

sandukutupu said:

Scroll of Mass Life: This item can no longer be used from inventory while dead.
Scroll of Life: This item can no longer be used from the inventory when dead.

I don't use these items, but isn't that their primary function?

Not exactly.
Can use when near death (character is on hand and knees and you have 12 secs to be revived by ally or scroll), but not when dead (no rez by ally option).
(just what I'm assuming is how they are supposed to function)

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dread4moor

sandukutupu said:

Scroll of Mass Life: This item can no longer be used from inventory while dead.
Scroll of Life: This item can no longer be used from the inventory when dead.

I don't use these items, but isn't that their primary function?

It was a well known bug that was being exploited (can say it now that it is going away).
I didn't do it, but know many people who did. Could essentially bring yourself back after being DEAD dead, not just near-death.
Good riddance.

forumuser

nulliusager#1625 said:

with this nonsense changes like this,

Scroll of Mass Life: This item can no longer be used from inventory while dead.
Scroll of Life: This item can no longer be used from the inventory when dead.
that we players can affirm that the module 16 will be a total failure...


p.s. just waiting for module 16 fail and the massive layoffs coming to save this game...

Its not a nonsense change, this is how they are supposed to work.

agilesto

People need to read ALL the notes, not only what they want to see:

"Note: These can still be properly used in the near death state."
So this is effectively a bugfix, where you could use scrolls when dead-dead. Now you can only use them on a near-death state, which is exactly how they are supposed to be used.

violencebf22

Thx for your work/

ladyaradia

Still no fix for the Legendary Adolescent Deepcrow's Combat Power? Still no fix for the Boar Shoat? Please, guys, fix these things.

kvet

nulliusager#1625 said:

p.s. just waiting for module 16 fail and the massive layoffs coming to save this game...

I don't understand why people who don't like Neverwinter bother to play and post on the forums at all. If you don't like Neverwinter, quit now, give me all your stuff, and stop posting - we don't need your toxicity. There are many other games out there, I'm sure one of them will be fun for you - you really should go and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

ccynn

you need a 6 hour shutdown for this?? if this isnt 15 minute weekly maintenance im just not sure what you can possibly fix that quickly??? you remember that we buy the stuff you sell? we are your customers right??why do you do these things at times when people play. you would be hard pressed to convince me that doing this at 2 or 3 am would disrupt the game less than at 8am est. the only reason is your convenience, so your programmers can work the normal schedule. way to put anything on earth before your customers.....again, and again, and again.

sandukutupu

I personally didn't mean to open a can of worms, but as I said, I never really used these two items. I used some of the free ones they gave us at events, but sold the rest. I felt it would become a habit, of running into obstacles, only to use them as a crutch to avoid actually overcoming the brick walls. Add to that they cost so much in the AH, it would defeat the purpose of making AD. The rare Greater Stone of Health and tears of Bahamut I already pop like candies. If the HP increases in the next module, I would expect to see a 50K or 75K health potion. As it takes 5 Exalted Potions (35K) to heal most of my 8 characters fully.

forumuser

ccynn said:

you need a 6 hour shutdown for this?? if this isnt 15 minute weekly maintenance im just not sure what you can possibly fix that quickly??? you remember that we buy the stuff you sell? we are your customers right??why do you do these things at times when people play. you would be hard pressed to convince me that doing this at 2 or 3 am would disrupt the game less than at 8am est. the only reason is your convenience, so your programmers can work the normal schedule. way to put anything on earth before your customers.....again, and again, and again.

Because no time is convenient for the game, players are on around the clock. Doing it at that time means they have the people on-site if there is a problem and can move quickly to resolve it. And its not just applying a patch its server maintenance as well.

joachim

ladyaradia#2029 said:

Still no fix for the Legendary Adolescent Deepcrow's Combat Power? Still no fix for the Boar Shoat? Please, guys, fix these things.

(sigh) Still no fix for the Boar Shoat. Might as well just roast and eat the poor little PIGGY...

Moderator applied piggy filter.

dread4moor

sandukutupu said:

I personally didn't mean to open a can of worms, but as I said, I never really used these two items. I used some of the free ones they gave us at events, but sold the rest. I felt it would become a habit, of running into obstacles, only to use them as a crutch to avoid actually overcoming the brick walls. Add to that they cost so much in the AH, it would defeat the purpose of making AD. The rare Greater Stone of Health and tears of Bahamut I already pop like candies. If the HP increases in the next module, I would expect to see a 50K or 75K health potion. As it takes 5 Exalted Potions (35K) to heal most of my 8 characters fully.

Honestly, I'm surprised life scrolls and stones of health were not nerfed (maybe "usable only on campaigns and quests, not in endgame dungeons").

As you say, scrolls and stones of health are a crutch. They allow us to be reckless, lazy and not worry about threat/defense/health bar. I mean, who cares? Just a pop a scroll.

The one very good trend the devs have made with KTeam and Event dungeons is "death has consequences".

KTeam is actually scary in the final boss fight when that red circle appears beneath your feet. This is a thrill we haven't had in years in NW. It's a good thing.

Now with Mod 16, removing our Deadpool-like immortality (scrolls and stones) would almost seem like a necessary compliment to the "tanking and healing are essential" theme.
Otherwise the choice becomes "bring a healer or bring stacks of stones and scrolls", which is the opposite of their intent, isn't it?

garamore1

ccynn said:

so your programmers can work the normal schedule. way to put anything on earth before your customers.....again, and again, and again.

How dare a company care for their employees by not making them leave their homes, wives and babies at 2am at night.

ccynn

Because no time is convenient for the game, players are on around the clock. Doing it at that time means they have the people on-site if there is a problem and can move quickly to resolve it. And its not just applying a patch its server maintenance as well.


not trying to argue with ya, but i work 2nd shift, my main play time is morning est. i get home at midnight, i have stayed up and played til 4 or 5 in the morning plenty of times and the difference in server traffic is huge, its noticeable even to me. if this fix was applied at 3 am or even a little earlier it would be done by 9am, a time when the rest of their crew is on to put out any fires that may have happened. the fact is it simply doesnt enter their minds that they are hosing ppl who pay their bills,it never will and we all know it.

ecrana

garamore1 said:

ccynn said:

so your programmers can work the normal schedule. way to put anything on earth before your customers.....again, and again, and again.

How dare a company care for their employees by not making them leave their homes, wives and babies at 2am at night.

How dare a company not utilize slave labor to keep their completely rational customer base happy.

sandukutupu

Food for thought @ccynn you are not a customer. You never own anything or bought anything from Cryptic. The client software on your hard drive is on a free lease agreement. Any cash you pay into the game will vaporize with; the account getting banned, an update patch removing virtual purchases, the termination of the game, etc.. We are called "PARTICIPANTS AND USERS" by the End User License Agreement, not customers or clients.

Anything paid to the Zen Store for virtual goods, should be look upon as a charitable donation to keep servers and game running. The virtual goods received should be viewed as a perk for donating. If you never buy zen, there is even less of a point to argue about the work ethics of Cryptic employees.

As for the time of day, Cryptic is based in Los Gatos, California, these repairs are being done during normal work hours. Other companies have sever shutdowns as well. The small 2 hour shutdown is normally for making back ups and banks do this every night not just once a week. This 6 hour downtime is more than what they are saying in the patch notes, as they are about to implement module 16 on the Preview server tomorrow.

lipbull

Hello - thx for patching, but...
your fix is only - If players had at least 135 Coins of Tales Told by the end of the Tales of Old: Lair of the Mad Dragon event, a Fabled Chapter has now been placed in their inventory
The Problem here is...what about players, who didn´t get the whole coins - for example did 5/5 and get 16 coins instead of 32 or get one coin in their bag and can´t open to do the daily max of them?
I for example run it multiple times and get for 5/5 successfully runs from 1 - 16 coins instead of the whole currency.
What about the players who where disconnect and can´t rejoin.
Do you restart/repeat/extend the quest (maybe over a weekend) that all of us have the chance to successfully ended it?
My hint for further hard things like that is to let it ran over 10 days for ex. from thursday to next Sunday/Monday?
If you can´t do that...did we have lost 1 event and maybe can buy the things for fabled chapter 3 month later than the people who successfully get their fabled chapter?

Sry for my bad english and thank you for taking note, ObelX

wolfiekahn

sandukutupu said:

Food for thought @ccynn you are not a customer. You never own anything or bought anything from Cryptic. The client software on your hard drive is on a free lease agreement. Any cash you pay into the game will vaporize with; the account getting banned, an update patch removing virtual purchases, the termination of the game, etc.. We are called "PARTICIPANTS AND USERS" by the End User License Agreement, not customers or clients.

Anything paid to the Zen Store for virtual goods, should be look upon as a charitable donation to keep servers and game running. The virtual goods received should be viewed as a perk for donating. If you never buy zen, there is even less of a point to argue about the work ethics of Cryptic employees.

As for the time of day, Cryptic is based in Los Gatos, California, these repairs are being done during normal work hours. Other companies have sever shutdowns as well. The small 2 hour shutdown is normally for making back ups and banks do this every night not just once a week. This 6 hour downtime is more than what they are saying in the patch notes, as they are about to implement module 16 on the Preview server tomorrow.

uh their calender shows that it wont be hitting preview until Mar 5th .. i just checked cause i looking see if there was anymore info on changes since i read the new dev blog announcing a change to the boons system (which seems from what they explain pretty good) Its listed right after the thing on feb 25th where they talk about state of game and stuff

kemnimtarkas

ladyaradia#2029 said:

Still no fix for the Legendary Adolescent Deepcrow's Combat Power? Still no fix for the Boar Shoat? Please, guys, fix these things.

The main draw for the new Festival of Lanterns event was the Boar Shoat - required the most grind -for a pet who, at present, still has no active bonus...

I'm pinging this again only because I am concerned if it isn't fixed BEFORE M16 drops we may never see it fixed.

polaris1986

Events

Players will no longer be placed in Protector’s Enclave when they are disconnected during a Hunt or in a Tales of Old dungeon.

@nitocris83 please remove the rule of one party for one run. Or at least make a possiblity to leave dungeon or party for time and meet again in few hours. Because 2 hours of runs is too bored and tiring.

adinosii

wolfiekahn#3786 said:

uh their calender shows that it wont be hitting preview until Mar 5th

uh, no.

I would estimate a 95% chance of it hitting Preview today as scheduled - unless they discover a last-minute issue that makes the build too broken to play (we know there will be bugs in the first Preview release - but it has to be "playable").

If there is a delay, it will probably mean one week delay, but as I said, a release in ...uh, about 12 hours from now looks most likely.

As for (live) release of Mod 16, my estimate back in January was for April 9th, and I suspect that was the original goal - whether that is realistic depends on how long it takes to fix and find the remaining bugs.

gripnir78

dread4moor said:

Now with Mod 16, removing our Deadpool-like immortality (scrolls and stones) would almost seem like a necessary compliment to the "tanking and healing are essential" theme.
Otherwise the choice becomes "bring a healer or bring stacks of stones and scrolls", which is the opposite of their intent, isn't it?

If those still have 15 seconds+ cooldowns you still wont make it without a healer around

sandukutupu

wolfiekahn#3786 said:

sandukutupu said:

Food for thought @ccynn you are not a customer. You never own anything or bought anything from Cryptic. The client software on your hard drive is on a free lease agreement. Any cash you pay into the game will vaporize with; the account getting banned, an update patch removing virtual purchases, the termination of the game, etc.. We are called "PARTICIPANTS AND USERS" by the End User License Agreement, not customers or clients.

Anything paid to the Zen Store for virtual goods, should be look upon as a charitable donation to keep servers and game running. The virtual goods received should be viewed as a perk for donating. If you never buy zen, there is even less of a point to argue about the work ethics of Cryptic employees.

As for the time of day, Cryptic is based in Los Gatos, California, these repairs are being done during normal work hours. Other companies have sever shutdowns as well. The small 2 hour shutdown is normally for making back ups and banks do this every night not just once a week. This 6 hour downtime is more than what they are saying in the patch notes, as they are about to implement module 16 on the Preview server tomorrow.

uh their calender shows that it wont be hitting preview until Mar 5th .. i just checked cause i looking see if there was anymore info on changes since i read the new dev blog announcing a change to the boons system (which seems from what they explain pretty good) Its listed right after the thing on feb 25th where they talk about state of game and stuff

Downloading +3 GB patch on Preview right now. I don't know about the calendar, just what people been saying. Heading into Preview to see if anything changes. Have fun!

wintersmoke

joachim#9556 said:

ladyaradia#2029 said:

Still no fix for the Legendary Adolescent Deepcrow's Combat Power? Still no fix for the Boar Shoat? Please, guys, fix these things.

(sigh) Still no fix for the Boar Shoat. Might as well just roast and eat the poor little PIGGY...

Moderator applied piggy filter.

Mmmm... Bacon. Nom nom nom!

nightelven

forumuser#2338 said:

ccynn said:

you need a 6 hour shutdown for this?? if this isnt 15 minute weekly maintenance im just not sure what you can possibly fix that quickly??? you remember that we buy the stuff you sell? we are your customers right??why do you do these things at times when people play. you would be hard pressed to convince me that doing this at 2 or 3 am would disrupt the game less than at 8am est. the only reason is your convenience, so your programmers can work the normal schedule. way to put anything on earth before your customers.....again, and again, and again.

Because no time is convenient for the game, players are on around the clock. Doing it at that time means they have the people on-site if there is a problem and can move quickly to resolve it. And its not just applying a patch its server maintenance as well.

Should Make time .... for the big changes "Rome wasn't Built in a Day" !!!

bigman99

Players are still being shunted to PE if they disconnect during ToO, and it is now April.