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VIP and Howling Adventure Pack

b0rkch0pb0rkch0p Member Posts: 403 Arc User
in General Discussion (PC)
Every day I login to get my free key.. only to open and get this.. Howling Adventure Pack. then get this
[Teleport Scroll - Protectors Enclave] [Epic Dungeon Chest Key][Greater Scroll of Identification]

This seems cruel to me. VIP and this garb.. just.. cruel.. Alas.. Every lockbox seems to be that way weather it's clothes or some other garb. there is always one of them that is dropping more than the other .. a lot more. ah well.. maybe tomorrow that orange will drop.

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  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    Now you understand why I don't buy VIP. Those packs sell for 6K in the AH and if those drop at 35% (someone told me that) then 60,000 AD for 10 days worth of keys, what a profit you made! But hey players, don't mind me, you keep opening those lock boxes and placing items up in the AH. I love buying your trash, because I made 500K yesterday on sales alone. Buy low, store it for a few months and sell high. <3

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  • b0rkch0pb0rkch0p Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    one mans trash is anothers.... =)
  • pitshadepitshade Member Posts: 5,665 Arc User
    Just find older lockboxes that don't have the Adventurer packs or fashion. I am still opening Merchant Prince.
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  • regenerderegenerde Member Posts: 3,048 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    Well, you could also bank/store your daily ViP lockbox keys for a while, and open a stack of the older lockboxes with them instead. It won't change/improve the chance for any good drop from those lockboxes, but if you keep an eye on the market and time it right, you might be able to make a nice profit from selling any packs you've gotten this far.

    At some point you might even get some "orange drop"... or you'll have made enough AD from sales to buy the item you're looking for diretly from the AH. Anyway, when you're looking for something specific it's better to focus on getting enough AD for buying it, then trying to gamble for it.
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  • xveganroxxveganrox Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    So open Merchant Prince instead? Undying isn’t a great choice, unless you’re opening 1000 on the first week. I agree that it’s a garbage drop and they shouldn’t stick obviously boobie prizes in the boxes — especially after the multiple hard nerfs to Tarmalune bars — but it’s not like you always have to open the most current one.

    > @sandukutupu said:
    > Now you understand why I don't buy VIP. Those packs sell for 6K in the AH and if those drop at 35% (someone told me that) then 60,000 AD for 10 days worth of keys, what a profit you made! But hey players, don't mind me, you keep opening those lock boxes and placing items up in the AH. I love buying your trash, because I made 500K yesterday on sales alone. Buy low, store it for a few months and sell high. <3
    >
    > Have fun it is a game and not a job!

    Agree with the last line! If your idea of fun is carrying around wound kits and portable altars, and taking 5 minutes to change zones, VIP is definitely not a good choice :p
  • strathkinstrathkin Member Posts: 1,798 Arc User
    Well realize they at least added 2 Companion Token's as an outcome possibility. I admit thought it be nice if they dropped those a little bit more. Still the Epic Key's are nice especially if you don't have VIP; and those alone often will sell between 3000 - 4000 Diamonds.

    So the Adventurer's Pack's aren't as bad as what Mount Pack's used to be - but at least the Mount Pack's always gave possibility of an Epic Mount. Still most of the time you'd often only get 2 Rare Insignia which used to sell for 200 - 500 Diamonds; thankfully now people have smartened up and are selling them for 1500 - 5500 or more.

    Still I think it be nice if they added a real rare chance for something just a little nicer to incentivise more to opening them.
  • b0rkch0pb0rkch0p Member Posts: 403 Arc User
    regenerde said:

    Well, you could also bank/store your daily ViP lockbox keys for a while, and open a stack of the older lockboxes with them instead. It won't change/improve the chance for any good drop from those lockboxes, but if you keep an eye on the market and time it right, you might be able to make a nice profit from selling any packs you've gotten this far.

    At some point you might even get some "orange drop"... or you'll have made enough AD from sales to buy the item you're looking for diretly from the AH. Anyway, when you're looking for something specific it's better to focus on getting enough AD for buying it, then trying to gamble for it.

    ya that's what I did.. for three months.. and then I would transfer my char to preview 20x and then open 150x20lbs and saw I got maybe 1 orange I just went.. meh not worth doing it on live.. then when this lockbox came out I said lets give it a whirl.. blowing through 175 keys and getting only a purple mount.. it was sickening fun.. it is just a game.. one of these times I will get an orange mount.. until that time.. I just plug away =)
  • empalasempalas Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 802 Arc User
    After reading this I wondered if it had sneaked its way into the glorious resurgence packs and yes it has already. Actually except for the legendary and exceptional mount and exceptional companion pack is now the same as you get in the undying. I hadn't ever noticed before that it changed to the what was in the current lockbox like that. I noticed that it was updated when it started dropping again a few weeks before mod or bigger patches but didn't think it updated until then. I know the new mounts lag in the glorious resurgence pack so you can only get was in the next to latest lockbox.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User
    strathkin said:

    Well realize they at least added 2 Companion Token's as an outcome possibility. I admit thought it be nice if they dropped those a little bit more.

    Except that upgrading comps tends to be a major AD sink for a lot of people that want to upgrade their comps.
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  • avenfellavenfell Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    For me atleast the constant admin. messages notifying me X person has recieved a mount or companion dont entice me to buy additional keys, they make me strongly consider dropping ViP and/or the game itself. I am beyond sick and tired of never making more then 40k from any key ever and watching the same people pop 5-10 glorious resurgence epic-legendary packs in 15 minute spans.
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  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User
    And how many boxes do you think they are opening in that 15 minute span? It is not a small number.
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  • avenfellavenfell Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    No more then all the boxes ive opened from the day I started playing and ive yet to get ONE epic companion or mount, so yes, when I see Hailey the Tank get a legendary resurgence pack, 4 epic companion packs, 3 epic mount packs, 3 razor woods, and 2 mists in a 15 minute window (yes, this actually happened 2 wks back on international) I am a bit aggrivated.
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  • seventaru#1314 seventaru
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    > @avenfell said:
    > No more then all the boxes ive opened from the day I started playing and ive yet to get ONE epic companion or mount, so yes, when I see Hailey the Tank get a legendary resurgence pack, 4 epic companion packs, 3 epic mount packs, 3 razor woods, and 2 mists in a 15 minute window (yes, this actually happened 2 wks back on international) I am a bit aggrivated.

    These people literally use thousands of keys, no exaggeration.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User
    ...and spam opening lockboxes. I know people that all they do it convert AD to zen, buy keys when they're on sale, open a stack of lockboxes, sell what they can, use the refining to make enchants to sell to get AD to convert to zen.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    b0rkch0p said:

    one mans trash is anothers.... =)

    Exactly!

    I agree with what @xveganrox said about placing "boobie prizes" in the lock box. I discussed this topic a few months back with my husband. It was back when Germany was discussing making Lock Boxes in games under the same legislation as gambling laws. This would allow the German government to regulate them. I don't know, if that ever happened, or if it was just political grand standing.

    We came up with a better way to make the cash and without the lock box. First you simply don't drop lock boxes like it is raining scratch off lottery tickets. Instead you place locked chests as they do skill nodes throughout the map. Then you sell a pack of lock picks (who ever heard of some adventurer getting the key? lol) 10 common picks for $1, 10 uncommon for $2, 10 rare for $5, and 10 epic for $10. Next you remove the RNG on the contents by telling the player that; common picks break after the first use, uncommon to epic break after the second use. Inside the chest is armor or weapon that matches your character class, and is blue or better, epic picks are purple or orange. Then you have the RNG gold and AD, salvage items, trade bars, mounts, etc.. You assure the buyer they are going to get something "worthy" of seeking out the chest and buying the picks for the lock.

    Basically when governments, like Germany, passes a law against lock boxes dropping in games, they could say. We don't drop lock boxes, and the player knows what is in the chest when they open it. They just don't know the amount. Unfortunately Neverwinter is in too deep and they are not about to change their ways.

    Also to address the comment about injury kits. I don't see the point to playing a game on God Mode. If I wanted to play it on God Mode, I would just use the Foundry for that purpose. It is possible to get a character up to level 70 within the Foundry, and play the whole game in God Mode. Games are suppose to challenge you, I prefer the challenge. :)

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  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    sandukutupu said:

    Now you understand why I don't buy VIP.!

    Nope, still don't. VIP has tons of useful features aside from the daily key. Everything you do now to make AD every day, you can still do under VIP (and possibly make more because of no posting fees), and you get all the benefits too (AD store discount, travel post, bank access, XP, etc - you can see the list yourself). The daily key is just one (IMO not even the most compelling) reason to get VIP. It's probably one of the few things that is actually worth the cost, especially given you can come up with the AD to pay for it in a matter of days without even really trying that hard.

    That said, on this topic.. yes, that Howling Pack is basically worthless. Luckily, I've only picked up a couple of these.

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  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,430 Arc User
    edited August 2018
    I for one do not buy VIP because of lockbox key. I seldom open lockbox and I have over 500 lockbox keys (from VIP) and counting.
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  • sandukutupusandukutupu Member Posts: 2,285 Arc User
    Well some players need their crutches I suppose. Have fun!
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  • nunya#5309 nunya
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    sandukutupu said:

    Also to address the comment about injury kits. I don't see the point to playing a game on God Mode. If I wanted to play it on God Mode, I would just use the Foundry for that purpose. It is possible to get a character up to level 70 within the Foundry, and play the whole game in God Mode. Games are suppose to challenge you, I prefer the challenge. :)

    Not needing injury kits is not equivalent to playing in God mode. I don't even run into traps, anymore. So the only thing not having to have injury kits saves me is the minute or so it takes to stand in the campfire after dying to remove the injury. Yep, that sure sounds like God mode to me! :confused:
  • kharkov58kharkov58 Member Posts: 669 Arc User
    How many people here remember cult emblems that were a drop from some of the lockboxes. There was a worthless drop. I tried putting 1 on the auction house for 2 ad. It did not sell.
  • greywyndgreywynd Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 7,155 Arc User
    I still have one in my bank.
    I'm not looking for forgiveness, and I'm way past asking permission. Earth just lost her best defender, so we're here to fight. And if you want to stand in our way, we'll fight you too.
  • plasticbatplasticbat Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 12,430 Arc User
    edited September 2018
    I still have one in my inventory and the lowest price in AH is 500. :)
    The AH price can be misleading and 'seasonal'.
    There is an item that used to be sold for 5000. I bought a bunch of them when it was 500 and hoped I could sell them in 5000 later. Well, it dropped to lower than 500 for a long time. Hence, I just stashed them in the mail box for a long time. Because of this post, I went to check its current price. The current price is 50000.
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