Sumes video about Longstrider playstyle

wdj40

jonkoca said:

The best general, one size fits all, rotation I've found atm. is hindering, constrict and longstrider, I can pretty much solo the BHes in cold run using these and keeping mobile.

And apparantly seekers doesn't benefit melee strikes, so I use falcons' and serpents class features. Serpent feated on offhand.

Wish they'd spend a patch or two just fixing all the goddamn bugs for HRs. The list of things which don't work as intended, or just plain don't work is getting stupid.

Yeah that has been my rotation in PvE since about Mod 6 or 7 now The speed of Longstriders>Constricting>Hindering>Disruptive and Slashers Mark make a great HR I use Serpents and AotP as my passives in PvE though, switching Pack out for Lone Wolf in PvP.

jonkoca

Pack also is reported to be buggy too, sometimes it applies, sometimes not.

wdj40

jonkoca said:

Pack also is reported to be buggy too, sometimes it applies, sometimes not.

I have not heard or seen this at all. For me AotP always works and is incredible... I dont know if the off-hand passive works as i use Serpent there.

I have been studying Pack this morning and not seen it fail.

hawkend

Get a Aspect of Pack on the power rank III. Sure they fixed issue of range on rank IV in which it's working but they also broke offhand in this way.

jaegernl

hawkend said:

Get a Aspect of Pack on the power rank III. Sure they fixed issue of range on rank IV in which it's working but they also broke offhand in this way.

This. Since I got a free respec from the Winter Event, I down-graded Aspect of the Pack to rank 3, and the offhand bonus has been working reliably.

dmcewen

I'll have to check this out, it would really be nice to have Aspect of the pack in my offhand again.

jonkoca

Nice. I'll try it too.

dmcewen

In my limited testing, AotP offhand class feature appears to work when only three power points in the power. Anyone else want to testing to see if they get the same results?

jaegernl

dmcewen said:

In my limited testing, AotP offhand class feature appears to work when only three power points in the power. Anyone else want to testing to see if they get the same results?

The offhand bonus works for me, when I use three (3) points in the Aspect of the Pack.

jonkoca

Confirmed here too, 3 points works, 4 points doesn't.

davidagaldo

HAMSTER ,well, I don't use it...

rhadamathys

most all offhands are broken atm except AotS (supposedly)...I'm wondering if they all work as long as you don't have 4 points. Problem is, none of them are all that great and the 4th points are typically better, imo.

jonkoca

Lonewolf works at 4. Pack works at 3. Serpents works at 4. Falcon works at 4. Crushing works at 4. Pf action works at 4. The rest, not sure.

Off hands, serpents works with 4, falcons also. Cruel recovery works at zero lol, though only good for pvp crit builds really. Pack with 3 as discussed.

drederik

I have 2 things that have been bothering me about this setup.

Watching that video, I cannot understand how you can do constricting > longstriders > plant growth > steelbreeze without using at wills or disruptive. I cannot figure it out for the life of me.

I am still struggling with rotation I guess. This is what rotation I currently use:
Constricting > Longstriders > switch to melee and move in > Steel Breeze > Plant Growth > move out while CTG and Disruptive Shot > Cordon (shift out of animation). When I run out of Cordon Charges I will throw in a ranged at will

Am I doing something wrong? I can still put up good dps and it is very fluid but I feel like I am missing something

wdj40

drederik#9449 said:

I have 2 things that have been bothering me about this setup.

Watching that video, I cannot understand how you can do constricting > longstriders > plant growth > steelbreeze without using at wills or disruptive. I cannot figure it out for the life of me.

I am still struggling with rotation I guess. This is what rotation I currently use:
Constricting > Longstriders > switch to melee and move in > Steel Breeze > Plant Growth > move out while CTG and Disruptive Shot > Cordon (shift out of animation). When I run out of Cordon Charges I will throw in a ranged at will

Am I doing something wrong? I can still put up good dps and it is very fluid but I feel like I am missing something

The video is incredibly old now dude, loads of things have changed since it was made.

dmcewen

Plant growth is the highest dps encounter you have while steel breeze is the the weakest. Sume is buffing plant growth with longstriders and aspect of the serpent.

drederik

wdj40 said:

drederik#9449 said:

I have 2 things that have been bothering me about this setup.

Watching that video, I cannot understand how you can do constricting > longstriders > plant growth > steelbreeze without using at wills or disruptive. I cannot figure it out for the life of me.

I am still struggling with rotation I guess. This is what rotation I currently use:
Constricting > Longstriders > switch to melee and move in > Steel Breeze > Plant Growth > move out while CTG and Disruptive Shot > Cordon (shift out of animation). When I run out of Cordon Charges I will throw in a ranged at will

Am I doing something wrong? I can still put up good dps and it is very fluid but I feel like I am missing something

The video is incredibly old now dude, loads of things have changed since it was made.

So I shouldn't expect I can do that so quickly? What is a proper rotation nowadays?

wdj40

dmcewen said:

Plant growth is the highest dps encounter you have while steel breeze is the the weakest. Sume is buffing plant growth with longstriders and aspect of the serpent.

One of the reasons I like to have around 70% Crit chance... AotS will give my heavy hitting powers a great chance to Crit. I then equip an Owlbear Active which makes Steel Breeze into a great power (as well as other low damage powers). With Trans Dread a Crit non-AotS Steel Breeze will hit quite hard, whilst a non-crit non-AotS will hit very hard as well... also with Steel Breeze each enemy hit has its own chance to Crit or non-Crit.