I am guessing you guys spent of lot of Zen, or really a lot of Grinding from your seconday accounts to get to FBI.. even then some things do not seem to add up to get to FBI seriously, hope you guess what I am saying.
I can almost guarantee you they all spent Zen - so what? They spent it to support the game, get stronger, and are now writing guides and tips to help you. "Grab the torches and pitchforks...EVIL EVIL!!!"
Yes, they do a lot of grinding, but I have no idea what you are implying with secondary accounts.....nothing you can do on a secondary account would really help you get to FBI faster...
What doesn't add up? That people can actually be good at the game AND helpful to the community at the same time? I know its rare, but it does happen.
I am guessing you guys spent of lot of Zen, or really a lot of Grinding from your seconday accounts to get to FBI.. even then some things do not seem to add up to get to FBI seriously, hope you guess what I am saying.
I can almost guarantee you they all spent Zen - so what? They spent it to support the game, get stronger, and are now writing guides and tips to help you. "Grab the torches and pitchforks...EVIL EVIL!!!"
Yes, they do a lot of grinding, but I have no idea what you are implying with secondary accounts.....nothing you can do on a secondary account would really help you get to FBI faster...
What doesn't add up? That people can actually be good at the game AND helpful to the community at the same time? I know its rare, but it does happen.
Why so sensitive, its not like they are cheating or something..?
I am guessing you guys spent of lot of Zen, or really a lot of Grinding from your seconday accounts to get to FBI.. even then some things do not seem to add up to get to FBI seriously, hope you guess what I am saying.
I can almost guarantee you they all spent Zen - so what? They spent it to support the game, get stronger, and are now writing guides and tips to help you. "Grab the torches and pitchforks...EVIL EVIL!!!"
Yes, they do a lot of grinding, but I have no idea what you are implying with secondary accounts.....nothing you can do on a secondary account would really help you get to FBI faster...
What doesn't add up? That people can actually be good at the game AND helpful to the community at the same time? I know its rare, but it does happen.
Why so sensitive, its not like they are cheating or something..?
Why so sensitive, its not like they are cheating or something..?
If you are going to make a not-so-thinly-veiled accusation of some sort of wrong doing toward people I respect (whether they know I exist or not lol), I'm going to defend them.
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
So atm its bring sw with fabled set or exploit the hell out of commanding strike in 4 support + 1 hdps parties? Awesome. Ty for the info.
The dungeon is able to be completed without using CS or broken sets.
IF THE same "beasts guardians" go a run with great weapon fighters those one do not use intomitable battle strike from beast guardians they will be kitty guardians. AND THEY say they have build focused around a bugged power haahahaha. WHEN guardian use commander while the buff is active i hit my daily and att wills on cw!
IF YOu put all classes build for damage individual vs a random boss lets say orcus. GF will one of the slowest damage dealers lets get real.
Just because you don't know any hard hitting GFs, doesn't mean they don't exist.
THEY can hit hard i know that man but not harder than the pure dps classes. you want repeat my example? IN a party of 4 gwf and 1 gf gwf without ibs will deal a lot more damage than the gf if he chose to play with commander.EVEN if tehy dont use commander still great weapons will do more damage.
btw do they hide because only in act logs i see them.
ok to your favorite prhase i will add:
Just because you don;t know any hard hitting wizard, doesnt mean they don't exist.
So atm its bring sw with fabled set or exploit the hell out of commanding strike in 4 support + 1 hdps parties? Awesome. Ty for the info.
The dungeon is able to be completed without using CS or broken sets.
IF THE same "beasts guardians" go a run with great weapon fighters those one do not use intomitable battle strike from beast guardians they will be kitty guardians. AND THEY say they have build focused around a bugged power haahahaha. WHEN guardian use commander while the buff is active i hit my daily and att wills on cw!
IF YOu put all classes build for damage individual vs a random boss lets say orcus. GF will one of the slowest damage dealers lets get real.
Just because you don't know any hard hitting GFs, doesn't mean they don't exist.
THEY can hit hard i know that man but not harder than the pure dps classes. you want repeat my example? IN a party of 4 gwf and 1 gf gwf without ibs will deal a lot more damage than the gf if he chose to play with commander.EVEN if tehy dont use commander still great weapons will do more damage.
btw do they hide because only in act logs i see them.
ok to your favorite prhase i will add:
Just because you don;t know any hard hitting wizard, doesnt mean they don't exist.
@itbls apparently I don't know any hard hitting wizards.
silverkeltMember, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 4,235Arc User
the total amount of buffs just decreases the time, you can do this with just 1 tank , 1 dc and 3 dps combo, with average times between 30-40 mins long. This is how Ive done it now ever time. Im sure in their testing this is how they did it, because they never seem to anticipate what people are capable of otherwise. Even though I find this dungeon really fun, I also find it really annoying to swap gear out and junk. I really dont see myself running it all that much, other then 1-2 times a week for fun when I can tag along with a group.
@mamalion1234 There is indeed some hard hitting cws in the game, I know about 5-6 right now, my cw isnt one of those, though its strong enough to be maybe in the top 10% or so.. with the normal set up, I have too many toons to make anyone of my toons that great. I can get another 8-10% dps on my comps alone, which again, hate to spend a couple millions AD for that.
So that being said, my cw is good enough as a complimentary dps in FBI.. all the other content I can run as the primary if I have to. Unless you corner FBIs last boss though, CW dps works out well there, as you can go all range and while others are chasing drufi down, you blast away.
To anyone who thinks this is all about money or something, pish posh.. you either grind, or you buy. But you can grind around 40 -50 million AD a year and I dont even grind as much as others. Off the course of a couple of years + some rng luck, you can get alot done in the game.
Most of the crusaders did it like me, spend a few bucks, grind alot over the course of a longish amount of time and bam.. have gear and r12s and stuff. Are there a few poeple who bought stuff, sure, are there a few people who never spend a dime ? sure. There is a wide spectrum of all types in our guild. I fail to see why you penalize anyone for anything.
as someone who has limited time(I have kids I TELL YOU!! KIDS) , I cant just grind all day, so , ya I have to throw in a few bucks 2-3 times a year to help out some. That is my choice, throwing judgement at people who spend, or dont spend money I think is fairly invalid.
You dont have to SPEND a dime , you can actually get fairly advanced without it, with just some regular game knowledge and time.
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mamalion1234Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 3,415Arc User
the total amount of buffs just decreases the time, you can do this with just 1 tank , 1 dc and 3 dps combo, with average times between 30-40 mins long. This is how Ive done it now ever time. Im sure in their testing this is how they did it, because they never seem to anticipate what people are capable of otherwise. Even though I find this dungeon really fun, I also find it really annoying to swap gear out and junk. I really dont see myself running it all that much, other then 1-2 times a week for fun when I can tag along with a group.
@mamalion1234 There is indeed some hard hitting cws in the game, I know about 5-6 right now, my cw isnt one of those, though its strong enough to be maybe in the top 10% or so.. with the normal set up, I have too many toons to make anyone of my toons that great. I can get another 8-10% dps on my comps alone, which again, hate to spend a couple millions AD for that.
So that being said, my cw is good enough as a complimentary dps in FBI.. all the other content I can run as the primary if I have to. Unless you corner FBIs last boss though, CW dps works out well there, as you can go all range and while others are chasing drufi down, you blast away.
To anyone who thinks this is all about money or something, pish posh.. you either grind, or you buy. But you can grind around 40 -50 million AD a year and I dont even grind as much as others. Off the course of a couple of years + some rng luck, you can get alot done in the game.
Most of the crusaders did it like me, spend a few bucks, grind alot over the course of a longish amount of time and bam.. have gear and r12s and stuff. Are there a few poeple who bought stuff, sure, are there a few people who never spend a dime ? sure. There is a wide spectrum of all types in our guild. I fail to see why you penalize anyone for anything.
as someone who has limited time(I have kids I TELL YOU!! KIDS) , I cant just grind all day, so , ya I have to throw in a few bucks 2-3 times a year to help out some. That is my choice, throwing judgement at people who spend, or dont spend money I think is fairly invalid.
You dont have to SPEND a dime , you can actually get fairly advanced without it, with just some regular game knowledge and time.
Many poeple were lucky including me bought very cheap rp if you remember ( ofcourse after farming ad through old t2 dungeons) because the bots in foundries. i AdmIT i got from auction 9k a peridot stack. MOST OF My gear came trhough cheap rp i do not say bots are good thing but i would be fool to not buy their cheap rp from auction.
lantern22Member, NW M9 PlaytestPosts: 1,111Arc User
I find the last part of this conversation thread confusing and probably irrelevant.
Back to the OP - thanks for this, when I finally unlock the EFR requirement to get into FBI, I will definitely be going through this information in detail. Appreciate the time it takes you guys (and others who do similar stuff) to post this stuff on the forums to help the rest of us out.
So atm its bring sw with fabled set or exploit the hell out of commanding strike in 4 support + 1 hdps parties? Awesome. Ty for the info.
The dungeon is able to be completed without using CS or broken sets.
IF THE same "beasts guardians" go a run with great weapon fighters those one do not use intomitable battle strike from beast guardians they will be kitty guardians. AND THEY say they have build focused around a bugged power haahahaha. WHEN guardian use commander while the buff is active i hit my daily and att wills on cw!
IF YOu put all classes build for damage individual vs a random boss lets say orcus. GF will one of the slowest damage dealers lets get real.
Just because you don't know any hard hitting GFs, doesn't mean they don't exist.
THEY can hit hard i know that man but not harder than the pure dps classes. you want repeat my example? IN a party of 4 gwf and 1 gf gwf without ibs will deal a lot more damage than the gf if he chose to play with commander.EVEN if tehy dont use commander still great weapons will do more damage.
btw do they hide because only in act logs i see them.
ok to your favorite prhase i will add:
Just because you don;t know any hard hitting wizard, doesnt mean they don't exist.
That´s a random edemo 3. phase, watching a 3k GF pure dps against two better geared GWF´s at 2. and 3. No commander strike involved and having DC with hastening light you may cast griffin wrath in short time. Now guess what happens if a GF like that plus a GF using CS focus one target...demorgorgon was instant dead the other run.
So atm its bring sw with fabled set or exploit the hell out of commanding strike in 4 support + 1 hdps parties? Awesome. Ty for the info.
The dungeon is able to be completed without using CS or broken sets.
IF THE same "beasts guardians" go a run with great weapon fighters those one do not use intomitable battle strike from beast guardians they will be kitty guardians. AND THEY say they have build focused around a bugged power haahahaha. WHEN guardian use commander while the buff is active i hit my daily and att wills on cw!
IF YOu put all classes build for damage individual vs a random boss lets say orcus. GF will one of the slowest damage dealers lets get real.
Just because you don't know any hard hitting GFs, doesn't mean they don't exist.
I agree i'm a hard hitting Gf and i ain't even finished my build yet, yes we do exist just be careful wondering around IWP or DV you just might come across one of us
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Yes, they do a lot of grinding, but I have no idea what you are implying with secondary accounts.....nothing you can do on a secondary account would really help you get to FBI faster...
What doesn't add up? That people can actually be good at the game AND helpful to the community at the same time? I know its rare, but it does happen.
The Holy Crusaders guild leader ♚ Mod 10 PVE Destroyer GWF guide ♚ Founding member of the Relentless Alliance
IN a party of 4 gwf and 1 gf gwf without ibs will deal a lot more damage than the gf if he chose to play with commander.EVEN if tehy dont use commander still great weapons will do more damage.
btw do they hide because only in act logs i see them.
ok to your favorite prhase i will add:
Just because you don;t know any hard hitting wizard, doesnt mean they don't exist.
@mamalion1234
There is indeed some hard hitting cws in the game, I know about 5-6 right now, my cw isnt one of those, though its strong enough to be maybe in the top 10% or so.. with the normal set up, I have too many toons to make anyone of my toons that great. I can get another 8-10% dps on my comps alone, which again, hate to spend a couple millions AD for that.
So that being said, my cw is good enough as a complimentary dps in FBI.. all the other content I can run as the primary if I have to. Unless you corner FBIs last boss though, CW dps works out well there, as you can go all range and while others are chasing drufi down, you blast away.
To anyone who thinks this is all about money or something, pish posh.. you either grind, or you buy. But you can grind around 40 -50 million AD a year and I dont even grind as much as others. Off the course of a couple of years + some rng luck, you can get alot done in the game.
Most of the crusaders did it like me, spend a few bucks, grind alot over the course of a longish amount of time and bam.. have gear and r12s and stuff. Are there a few poeple who bought stuff, sure, are there a few people who never spend a dime ? sure. There is a wide spectrum of all types in our guild. I fail to see why you penalize anyone for anything.
as someone who has limited time(I have kids I TELL YOU!! KIDS) , I cant just grind all day, so , ya I have to throw in a few bucks 2-3 times a year to help out some. That is my choice, throwing judgement at people who spend, or dont spend money I think is fairly invalid.
You dont have to SPEND a dime , you can actually get fairly advanced without it, with just some regular game knowledge and time.
MOST OF My gear came trhough cheap rp i do not say bots are good thing but i would be fool to not buy their cheap rp from auction.
Back to the OP - thanks for this, when I finally unlock the EFR requirement to get into FBI, I will definitely be going through this information in detail. Appreciate the time it takes you guys (and others who do similar stuff) to post this stuff on the forums to help the rest of us out.
That´s a random edemo 3. phase, watching a 3k GF pure dps against two better geared GWF´s at 2. and 3.
No commander strike involved and having DC with hastening light you may cast griffin wrath in short time.
Now guess what happens if a GF like that plus a GF using CS focus one target...demorgorgon was instant dead the other run.
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