PvE SW: Twisted vs. Fire

crystal892f

Hey guys, I'm building a pure PvE SW (Damnation) and wanted to know which artifact weapon set is better. Twisted or Fire.
I mean, most of the damage cleaning trash comes from TT, so Fire with AP gain sounds good. But I see most PvE SWs run around with Twisted.
Any advice would be appreciated

ghoulz66

If you're soulbinder you'd be running dust to dust anyway. And if you want to pop a daily in a boss fight you can use the DC sigil. You might end up with more AP gain than you want.

I'm still using the old EE one. If I ever choose to try out temp I'd want all the LS I can get.

crystal892f

ghoulz66 said:

If you're soulbinder you'd be running dust to dust anyway.

Certainly I am. Problem with that is, that if TT is still active after the end of battle, DTD does NOT fill AP (bug report, anyone?). And running with other trash destroyers like CW and especially GWFs, mostly the mobs die faster than my TT runs out...
As far as I know, Fire set DOES fill AP regardless.

treesclimber

And HR as trash destroyers now too, since they are the class that most benefits from dread enchant, anyway back to the point if you coordinate your tt, soul sparks remaining at the end of the fight and DC sigil use twisted set will have awesome performace, some rare times you'll find trouble with ap (i have a legendary cloak so this is my point of view), other option would be fire set + wheel, i dont know how it works, but most probably much higher bursts of damage and similar global damage.

The thing is the ap you can get from the first combination has advantage in stoped moments, when you're party is waiting etc and you can aford to use a heavy howler for example, with the fire set you'll need more ap, since the set has a cooldown that many times you'll break, so it would require from you a gorgon/flail snail/new apparatus of gond. Right now i'm using DC sigil + fire weapons, ap is too much is many, many cases of the run, but on the other hand in speed runs i can cast IS, BoH, cast some soul scortches and IS or BoH again, but this is praticly the only benifit and gets worse now that dread enchant is out and dailies are undervalorized.

So, my ultimate sugestion: Fire set + both the artifacts if you can offore to make them mithic, in stoped moments use the DC sigil, and swap asap to the wheel. If you want the best combination without all that bothering, i would say twisted + DC sigil + AP cloak is still the best.

schietindebux

treesclimber said:

And HR as trash destroyers now too, since they are the class that most benefits from dread enchant, anyway back to the point if you coordinate your tt, soul sparks remaining at the end of the fight and DC sigil use twisted set will have awesome performace, some rare times you'll find trouble with ap (i have a legendary cloak so this is my point of view), other option would be fire set + wheel, i dont know how it works, but most probably much higher bursts of damage and similar global damage.

The thing is the ap you can get from the first combination has advantage in stoped moments, when you're party is waiting etc and you can aford to use a heavy howler for example, with the fire set you'll need more ap, since the set has a cooldown that many times you'll break, so it would require from you a gorgon/flail snail/new apparatus of gond. Right now i'm using DC sigil + fire weapons, ap is too much is many, many cases of the run, but on the other hand in speed runs i can cast IS, BoH, cast some soul scortches and IS or BoH again, but this is praticly the only benifit and gets worse now that dread enchant is out and dailies are undervalorized.

So, my ultimate sugestion: Fire set + both the artifacts if you can offore to make them mithic, in stoped moments use the DC sigil, and swap asap to the wheel. If you want the best combination without all that bothering, i would say twisted + DC sigil + AP cloak is still the best.

Agree, i refined my fire weapon into the twisted to get a good compromise between PVE and PVP, so you get 4k power or defense, on top I use ring of power for trash +4k power, sharandar boon elven fury 4k+ at max. , rapaging madness 4k if up, so in the end you have powerspikes liek 16k above the standart by that, 3 bonding procs on top and you get really high spikes of extrapower.
I skipped toughness and spend some point into energizing curse elven haste , AP cloak and some AP glyphs and you won´t need that fire weapon any more.