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  • edited March 2016
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  • subnoctesubnocte Member Posts: 341 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    I'm surprised these are still in it. They're unpopular, and I'm glad that people usually complain during matches when people use them. Especially AP drains - they basically break the mechanics of the classes and require no skill to use. Recently I've seen some premade groups come in to stomp pugs with a full set of drains on basically every character - pretty vile.
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    No, don't remove the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    Geez, the rings are available to all

    If you want them, Get them

    Don't try to stop them for those who want them
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  • toplaymoretoplaymore Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    With these rings is not a pvp. Game of hide, seek and catch. Please remove ring of Ambush/Cowardice. Save pvp.
  • uladh#1392 uladh Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    wanna return the pvp system like M2-M5
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  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    I don't care / I don't know
    morenthar said:

    @clonkyo1



    I used Drains first 2 weeks and Ambush for 3.



    That was a long time ago. So get off your ****. I never thought they were good for PvP.



    Guess what else isn't good for PvP? The same guilds crying about Drains and Ambush going into matches with troll premades. Oh but that's not their fault, it's the matchmaking system!



    BULL FRACKIN' ****.



    If you expect players to police themselves on certain levels, then police yourself on other imbalanced levels.



    No troll premades. Claiming you want a good match and you roll in with a pre-made with two clerics. That's funny.



    No potions, no food. Strip it down.



    ...and you wonder why I always scream hypocrisy?



    Typical.

    i read on a site that cant be named informations about a true solo queue pvp for people playing alone
  • rayrdanrayrdan Member Posts: 5,410 Arc User
    I don't care / I don't know
    anyone tested how the ambush ring changes are on ptr btw? we should not see (but i didnt test) perma stealthed bunny CWs for example
  • treesclimbertreesclimber Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,161 Arc User
    edited August 2016
    No, don't remove the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    rayrdan said:

    anyone tested how the ambush ring changes are on ptr btw? we should not see (but i didnt test) perma stealthed bunny CWs for example

    They work praticly the same still very easy to get stealth i think the solution is related to this:
    clonkyo1 said:

    I would say that devs should just remove drains for good but ambush rings, once fixed, can stay. (fixes = being able to detect ambushed player within 20'. Once that player attacks, stealth must go away. ICD of 10 secs)

    I would change: if you get invisible/untargateable during the cooldoown it will refresh. Also since for example now combat piercing blades is a thing i wouldn't have it as deflect for the other player but something like: for 2 seconds after you leave the steal ofered by this ring you'll deal less 20% damage to all foes around you.

    So.....yeah i don't want them to be removed, i want them to be other way to play, we have rosegold as one and the underdark rings as other, just that. Drains had a huge nerf and tryink them on preview i thing ap one really hit the spot but stamina still has some doubltfull behaviours on many little hits, im not sure if it has a ICD but if it doesn't it should.


  • theguiidotheguiido Member Posts: 467 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    @strumslinger @panderus @terramak WE WANT THEM OUT OF THE GAME
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  • armadeonxarmadeonx Member Posts: 4,952 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    Poll says 83% of players (on the forums) want them gone. Personally I haven't pvp'd since their introduction and I know a lot of other people who think the same.

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  • allrezallrez Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    up!
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  • kvetkvet Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,700 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    They shouldn't nerf them to the ground, they should dig a hole, <font color="orange">HAMSTER</font> in it, nerf them into the hole, pour gas on it, set fire to it, bury it, then let us all dance on the grave.

    simply remove the effect. Owners can salvage or feed them to their mimics, but the rings should just be vanquished wholesale.

    As for drains - just drop them from the store and let the existing ones naturally fade from existence over time.

    Do that and problem solved.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited September 2016
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    One thing to add. I did a match yesterday and met a Paladin that tended to show me his back all time , wearing a cowardice ring....I got thrown over the hole map landnig at the cealing.
    Wasn´t that ring fixed??
  • theguiidotheguiido Member Posts: 467 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings
    clonkyo1 said:

    They are nerfing them to the ground next week- Ring of Ambush: This item's effect now has a 30 second internal cooldown, starting when the stealth effect is cancelled.
    Ring of Ambush: The detection radius for this item's effect has been increased to 30 feet, up from 20.
    Ring of Ambush: NPC enemies now detect players from the correct distance when under the effect of this item's stealth ability.

    Where did you read this?? Will they make Ambush Rings WAI at least??? im really happy. Let's see how many troll PvP players will come here to cry about their "fav troll ring".
    But Vanishing Prescence is still in the game guys.
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  • xgrandz02xgrandz02 Member Posts: 702 Arc User
    I don't care / I don't know
    I don't see a problem on current Ambush/Cowardice rings, most players who use it are weak anyway and easy to kill,
    even CWs whit ambush and Repel push are easy to follow, (no matter of stealth or not, same goes for Shadowclad.

    If something really need to be Removed are "DRAINS", that's just annoying as hell.
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  • silver11#9318 silver11 Member Posts: 92 Arc User
    They wont remove these things because then theyd have to admit they were wrong, which would never happen.
  • theguiidotheguiido Member Posts: 467 Arc User
    Yes remove both the drains and Ambush/Cowardice rings

    Vanishing Presence. LOL.

    Yeah bro you go to hit em and after 1 hit they turn into harry potter, like where'd you go waldo.
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