Warlock Puppet Challenge

martianmnhunter

For anyone using the puppet in PVE there are some ways to buff it, aside from party buffs and stacking power.

I was testing it awhile back on the PTR and this is the highest I was able to get on a dummy.



I challenge you to do higher damage and provide screenshot, the rules are simple, you must do it solo.

zeusom

Ok, I accept your challenge. So I did this as solo warlock on trade of blades target dummy on preview, special build. Got my puppet to hit for 190%-208% max effectiveness. A little higher efficacy and damage is possible. If this build is brought to eToS spider boss with monster T2 scaling and some additional GF CW DC buffs... lol. So for challenge I win by so much, victory song and Just send the GMOPs prize to my mailbox, thanks.


My wraithclaw brings all the boys to the yard
They like, it better than yours
They like, it better than yours
I could teach you, but I have to charge.

Max Claw efficacy = 208.5%
(your best = 173.8%)
imgur.com/vDT1pzR

Max Claw Hit = 93,500
(your best = 53,300)
imgur.com/xVjzVJi

martianmnhunter

Gratz we have a new king of the hill, although you didn't include your setup in the screenshot like I did!

Question: did you use elixirs?

zeusom

Yes, elixirs. Had a total of 34 CHA. So I repeated with the same build to show the set up on left bar. This time the trade of blades was busy and there was an HR there testing. Something happened (some HR buffs) at one point and my puppet dmg went a little crazy so this is not valid for solo but the setup sidebar is valid. But look the crazy numbers with HR buffs and they are not even with high %efficacy spikes:

imgur.com/a680Vh5

I retested the build in the Stronghold target dummies where no one else was around for sure and got similar numbers with a max efficacy of 208.5% and max solo damage spikes of around 90k. If one of those 50k claw hits happened to coincide with a 208.5% efficacy spike then the damage would be over 100k solo. Don't want to stand and hit dummy all day for that perfect proc to happen.

imgur.com/69sLLjn

schietindebux

deleted, have fun at the dummy

martianmnhunter

schietindebux said:

if puppet would be not that squishy it could be a factor in PVP...
against squishy target it deals solid damage, having a group buff it surely deals more
until than its useless, otherwise having more survivabilty we could have our first "nerf thread" in PVP forum

Do you even read before replying?

martianmnhunter said:

For anyone using the puppet in PVE there are some ways to buff it

This isn't the pvp forum and we are not discussing pvp in this topic, thanks.

martianmnhunter

Result of GF+SW, I believe it goes higher but since the dummies have very low HP pool they are bugging out and damage doesn't register.

gomok72

So if I get my puppet to hit for 300-500k on a swipe do I win? You guys going by highest swipe or overall damage from the puppet?

I'm kinda scared to put this up here, as we all know someone will end up getting us nerfed even more than what we are now:)

martianmnhunter

gomok72 said:

So if I get my puppet to hit for 300-500k on a swipe do I win? You guys going by highest swipe or overall damage from the puppet?

I'm kinda scared to put this up here, as we all know someone will end up getting us nerfed even more than what we are now:)

You don't have to share how you did it (unless you didn't do it solo, just say what classes helped), just show that it's possible, You don't have to worry about any nerfs, they have bigger issues with GWFs doing 4x our damage as it is.

lldt

martianmnhunter said:

You don't have to share how you did it (unless you didn't do it solo, just say what classes helped), just show that it's possible, You don't have to worry about any nerfs, they have bigger issues with GWFs doing 4x our damage as it is.

You haven't been in an eDemo where a SW can do 100M+ then.

martianmnhunter

lldt said:

martianmnhunter said:

You don't have to share how you did it (unless you didn't do it solo, just say what classes helped), just show that it's possible, You don't have to worry about any nerfs, they have bigger issues with GWFs doing 4x our damage as it is.

You haven't been in an eDemo where a SW can do 100M+ then.

Yes you will do 100mil if literally no one else does any damage, doesn't mean a thing.

I solo queue a lot as GF and I do top dmg if no GWF is present, sometimes I see SWs do 70mil+ but that's what happens in pugs where you open extra portals and provide more juice for the SW to kill with TT.

lldt

martianmnhunter said:

Yes you will do 100mil if literally no one else does any damage, doesn't mean a thing.

I solo queue a lot as GF and I do top dmg if no GWF is present, sometimes I see SWs do 70mil+ but that's what happens in pugs where you open extra portals and provide more juice for the SW to kill with TT.

When did I say no one else did anything? This is real DPS by well geared SWs who know how to play, not some special scenario you described. Only purple portals were opened and the SWs did the most DPS during phase 2 and 3. They were not PUGs. The SW group was always a premade (except for 1 case where I didn't know the other group, so it could have been).

These are fast runs. In one case, in phase 2, Goristo was dead before he could charge a 3rd time (actually, in that run, the SW did only about 80M).

martianmnhunter

lldt said:

martianmnhunter said:

Yes you will do 100mil if literally no one else does any damage, doesn't mean a thing.

I solo queue a lot as GF and I do top dmg if no GWF is present, sometimes I see SWs do 70mil+ but that's what happens in pugs where you open extra portals and provide more juice for the SW to kill with TT.

When did I say no one else did anything? This is real DPS by well geared SWs who know how to play, not some special scenario you described. Only purple portals were opened and the SWs did the most DPS during phase 2 and 3. They were not PUGs. The SW group was always a premade (except for 1 case where I didn't know the other group, so it could have been).

These are fast runs. In one case, in phase 2, Goristo was dead before he could charge a 3rd time (actually, in that run, the SW did only about 80M).

Was there a BIS gwf in the group? you have to understand that whatever buffs the SW was getting (GF+DC usually buff their dmg but alot) a GWF would benefit from the same thing and scale better.

SW needs to setup his combos, build his sparks and whatnot, meanwhile GWF attacks the fastest in the game and has no setup, also the demo fight is catered towards GWFs since he can unstoppable through all the stuns and when everyones biggest damage dealers are disabled because of madness stacks, GWF can plow away with at wills, that's how they do consistent higher damage than anyone else.

* When I play on GF i can do 1mil hits or 3mil hits, depending on my party, but I'm slow and don't have run utility, GWF meanwhile has run and is fast, also has the highest base damage in game, so just another example of someone that could say GF is viable as DPS, yeah sure, but put GWF in the same scenario and he will do much better, same goes for SW (unless its T2 dungeons, the scaling somehow breaks there).

schietindebux

lldt said:

martianmnhunter said:

Yes you will do 100mil if literally no one else does any damage, doesn't mean a thing.

I solo queue a lot as GF and I do top dmg if no GWF is present, sometimes I see SWs do 70mil+ but that's what happens in pugs where you open extra portals and provide more juice for the SW to kill with TT.

When did I say no one else did anything? This is real DPS by well geared SWs who know how to play, not some special scenario you described. Only purple portals were opened and the SWs did the most DPS during phase 2 and 3. They were not PUGs. The SW group was always a premade (except for 1 case where I didn't know the other group, so it could have been).

These are fast runs. In one case, in phase 2, Goristo was dead before he could charge a 3rd time (actually, in that run, the SW did only about 80M).

Warlocks DPS is not real
TT rebouncing and dealing >50% from overall damage ... bugged since release
morderous flame dealing up to 17 mio hits ...bugged
puppet dealing spike damage up to 2-3mio per hit ... bugged
All bugged and no way to sell this for real.
despite this "bugged damage" a well build GWF beats you in every aspect runnnig edemo, only an "ilianbruen-user" will top these GWF´s...using a bugged set

fernuu

How is fabled set bugged?

schietindebux

fernuu said:

How is fabled set bugged?

ok broken not bugged

fernuu

Overpowered, not broken. Like other things, f.e. lostmauth set on GWF

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fernuu

I lost my best ACT for MF but here you can see 11kk hit

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fernuu

But no one said that it was at 1% hp. KF gets high boost as soon as HP goes under 50% and with right buffs you can hit hard for real

ftryda

Forgive me if this is a stupid question, as I play on xbox and cannot use ACT, but how is it that you have murderous flames hit a second after killing flames? I thought killing flames became murderous flames with feat used. This appears to be a damage value generated separate from killing flames. Is that how it is suppose to work or am I missing something and being stupid?

fernuu

Well it always looks like that - first you have KF hit, then second afterwards - MF.
MF should hit for no more than 30% of KF but sometimes, well, sometimes it hits for 1000% or even more :P

lldt

martianmnhunter said:

Was there a BIS gwf in the group? you have to understand that whatever buffs the SW was getting (GF+DC usually buff their dmg but alot) a GWF would benefit from the same thing and scale better.

You're taking my post out of context. I was replying to someone who said 1/4 of the dps of a GWF. I'm not saying SW = GWF. Nor am I saying (in regards to the next reply), that the high dps isn't due to bugs or things that are not WAI (but that's what people have been saying about Lostmauth or bonding stacking more than 3 times.). There are a lot of issues that need fixing (yes, I do play a SW, but of the 4 70s I have, it currently is the one I play the least), but there are people taking advantage of them right now.

polaris1986

ookkk.

is it 4,5 mil. or 45mil. ??


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