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justnk8se
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let me start off by saying that I have been playing since the 2nd week this game was available on Xbox 1. I have seen the game change dramatically and thus the market reflect those changes accordingly. throughout Mod5 I was able to keep afloat AD wise but I was never able to get too far ahead with the Ad exchange being so high (close to 300); I always just had enough to do what I needed to do. I ended mod 5 with legendary artifacts ( or at least 99 ready to upgrade) and legendary artifact equipment, epic companions and I had a mix of R9s and R10s.
I spent months preparing in game for mod 6. relentlessly farming SP for DH drops (had so much RP I had enough to get lvl 70 artifact equipment to legendary and still have enough to get the underdark artifact equipment to legendary (still have 7 mil RP left from DH drops from mod 5), buying up neg, vorp, and soulforged shards to resell, acquired dragon eggs, various class sets (DC prophet set) and just about anything else that I found would be harder to get come by or no longer existed come mod 6.
Fast forward to the thanksgiving events; with the changes to AD they made ( rough cap raise, up'ing RAD from dailies and giving us RAD on weeklies)...I went into the thanksgiving events with about 6 million AD and R10s. I exited the event with over 15 million diamonds and had almost every enchant upgraded to R11s. I reinvested nearly 5 million AD in various sources after the new lockbox dropped to resell during this event week. Now with the 2nd set of events over; I am sitting at just about 19.5 million AD with another 9-10 million worth of items created/dropped during this event waiting to be bought in the AH.
this brings me to my questions:
How do you make AD?
How do you feel about the general state of Diamonds?
How many diamonds do you have?
If you could change how one earns diamonds; realistically how would you change that in game? **be realistic**
to answer my questions above:
in my opinion; recently it has been incredibly easy to make diamonds in game buying/reselling highly sought after items, buying/selling Zen, selling BoE RP, doing dailies and weeklies, saving salvage for x2 AD and opening lockboxes.
I think once the tradebar changes come to Xbox that should be one positive step for providing RP to the community as well as reduce the prices on some of those coveted lockbox artifact drops.
lastly if I could change anything it would be to introduce one of the old lockboxes that had planar idols. if we had a box with planar idols (other than unearthed, 10k+ a box is ALOT); we could see the exchange climb up (my guess is 30-50 points within a day or two) as well as make opening boxes less of a gamble thus putting more AD back in the economy.
please keep this thread civil and constructive.
I spent months preparing in game for mod 6. relentlessly farming SP for DH drops (had so much RP I had enough to get lvl 70 artifact equipment to legendary and still have enough to get the underdark artifact equipment to legendary (still have 7 mil RP left from DH drops from mod 5), buying up neg, vorp, and soulforged shards to resell, acquired dragon eggs, various class sets (DC prophet set) and just about anything else that I found would be harder to get come by or no longer existed come mod 6.
Fast forward to the thanksgiving events; with the changes to AD they made ( rough cap raise, up'ing RAD from dailies and giving us RAD on weeklies)...I went into the thanksgiving events with about 6 million AD and R10s. I exited the event with over 15 million diamonds and had almost every enchant upgraded to R11s. I reinvested nearly 5 million AD in various sources after the new lockbox dropped to resell during this event week. Now with the 2nd set of events over; I am sitting at just about 19.5 million AD with another 9-10 million worth of items created/dropped during this event waiting to be bought in the AH.
this brings me to my questions:
How do you make AD?
How do you feel about the general state of Diamonds?
How many diamonds do you have?
If you could change how one earns diamonds; realistically how would you change that in game? **be realistic**
to answer my questions above:
in my opinion; recently it has been incredibly easy to make diamonds in game buying/reselling highly sought after items, buying/selling Zen, selling BoE RP, doing dailies and weeklies, saving salvage for x2 AD and opening lockboxes.
I think once the tradebar changes come to Xbox that should be one positive step for providing RP to the community as well as reduce the prices on some of those coveted lockbox artifact drops.
lastly if I could change anything it would be to introduce one of the old lockboxes that had planar idols. if we had a box with planar idols (other than unearthed, 10k+ a box is ALOT); we could see the exchange climb up (my guess is 30-50 points within a day or two) as well as make opening boxes less of a gamble thus putting more AD back in the economy.
please keep this thread civil and constructive.
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I took a month off and missed mod 6 to go straight into mod 7. I had a real life friend start the game and invested most of my savings getting him geared after I came back.
I have come to understand that making Ad takes Ad now compared to running dungeons for a multitude of drops (I can say the new format has limited vote kicking but I miss mod 5 to a degree) but you have to invest in little things.
On to making ad:
]Dragon eggs are essential to making various profession products to put on the market. You can indeed profit if you know where to find the right spots (don't give it away folks)
]Run dungeons and store all you get for double Ad. Also get a chance for high end drops. t2?
]Also make as many characters as you can get to 60 and pray religiously<-----ha. It adds up over time.
]Make sure to take advantage of any event. Save praying money for investing in those store rewards for long term investment and future big payouts
]Get at least rank 1 vip. The enchantment keys can be rewarding without dropping my wanted armoured strider (I honestly would sell it too). If you can flip enough zen catch a 50% off or any sale for the vip its rewarding 120$ is more than I care to spend on what would hypothetically be 60$ game. Oh and no more injury kits gotta love it.
What I would do to help keep more ad in the economy?:
]I would eradicate the 10% house cut for the trade house....seriously the ad just disappears. (post fee is gone on vip). I figured the reason for this was every little cut creates a potential zen purchase to compensate for any missing ad.
]Random world drops to give the little guy a chance. My buddy has been playing almost a month and is about ready to throw in the towel (he does not have the same advantages I do). This bothers me and it puts things in perspective for any new people playing the game. If he can't get ahead given what I got him started with, then what is it like for somebody who is totally green and knows no one?
]Take away some of those small ad expenses. 50k transmut is an example. That can go on a ton of refinement products to allow a player to better themselves. The better they get the more fun it gets and less hassle from the fights as well as the people they are fighting with. (I will not get started on companion upgrades...is was reduced by half and it is still amusing).
Hope I have maybe given an idea or to that can be productive and helpful to others.
Tc and have fun.
]Get at least rank 1 vip. The enchantment keys can be rewarding without dropping my wanted armoured strider (I honestly would sell it too). If you can flip enough zen catch a 50% off or any sale for the vip its rewarding 120$ is more than I care to spend on what would hypothetically be 60$ game. Oh and no more injury kits gotta love it.
What I would do to help keep more ad in the economy?:
]I would eradicate the 10% house cut for the trade house....seriously the ad just disappears. (post fee is gone on vip). I figured the reason for this was every little cut creates a potential zen purchase to compensate for any missing ad.
]Random world drops to give the little guy a chance. My buddy has been playing almost a month and is about ready to throw in the towel (he does not have the same advantages I do). This bothers me and it puts things in perspective for any new people playing the game. If he can't get ahead given what I got him started with, then what is it like for somebody who is totally green and knows no one?
]Take away some of those small ad expenses. 50k transmut is an example. That can go on a ton of refinement products to allow a player to better themselves. The better they get the more fun it gets and less hassle from the fights as well as the people they are fighting with. (I will not get started on companion upgrades...is was reduced by half and it is still amusing).
Hope I have maybe given an idea or two that can be productive and helpful to others.
Tc and have fun.
Transmute costs are excessively high; they should be a fraction of the cost. more drops or better drops from HE would be nice as well (dragons as an example). drop r6 or even r7 depending on the success would be a nice start. or even HE rewarding RAD similar to how dungeons, skirms and pvp, and SH inf works.
some main areas of focus I tend to lean toward for actually making AD are (there are still others but a magician never reveals his secrets :P)
Selling BoE RP is a good way to start snowballing AD into other places to invest for people starting out or veterans alike. Sharandar dailies, Dread Ring dungeons etc. use only the BoP RP if you can.
the Event calendar is great as well; it lets you plan ahead and spend accordingly. Where as we did not have that pre mod7 and you just had to know trends around events.
Buying/reselling items when a new lockboxes drop is another good way to make AD down the road; however that takes AD to make AD (like you pointed out) and you have to know where the bottom price and top price is for the items you are reselling (couple weeks watching items should give you an idea). I tend to lean toward items that are applicable to everyone (both low end and high end characters)
VIP is a must, keeping that current is worth it for the daily key alone.
Saving salvage until x2 AD is a must as well. if your bank is small; make alts to store items. Pray on those alts whenever you play so you still get small amounts of RAD, xp, etc.
Sometimes crafting enchants can be worth it but that requires a bit more on our end to calculate how much it actually costs to make and how much we would get back after AH cut. This comes more from experience and actually making the items to understand their true cost (making R10 enchants as an example vs buying them from AH)
]Random world drops to give the little guy a chance. My buddy has been playing almost a month and is about ready to throw in the towel (he does not have the same advantages I do). This bothers me and it puts things in perspective for any new people playing the game. If he can't get ahead given what I got him started with, then what is it like for somebody who is totally green and knows no one?
i have been playing 3 months and i feel the same way your friend did. unless you figure out an exploit, (like the place you farm dragon eggs from which is apparently known to regulars but not to anyone else), even having a friend who taught me the basics, there is so much to this game its daunting.
3 months and every drop,even some blood rubys even into an artifact and im not even close to maxing it out? (all used on double events). its just daunting when i look at that one, and see the necklace, belt, and off hand need to be started even yet. 3 other artifacts to refine....(i run 5 dragon hoard enchantments too)
if we could use enchantments in artifacts it would make it bearable...but without that it takes so long its almost not worth it. i know i will never start using artifact weapons on my alternates due to it just being a black hole, there getting mullholorand ones, and ill be fine with that.
in regards to the op question- i just finally am able to say im comfortable with the ad i have(but strugle to find what to spend it on to increase my characters damage and usefulness in a dungeon, even with guides/ hours of research), but the numbers you speak of are way beyond the time i want to put into this game. im a casual gamer,and even then im on 4-6 hours a night to get what i have done.,. and i just cant see sinking the time it takes to learn the sell value, and play this like a stock market, when i could play the real stock market the same way and make real money.
How do you make AD?daily dungeons, pvp and skirmishes (double ad event salvaging too)
How do you feel about the general state of Diamonds? not balanced, too many exploits.
How many diamonds do you have?
about 700k and another 1 million unrefined.
If you could change how one earns diamonds; realistically how would you change that in game? **be realistic**
more rewards of ad for things like missions. reward playing more, not just hoarding items to salvage in a double event, or needing to become an expert on a item type in the AH.
im here to play the game and have fun, if Pvp did not reward astral diamonds, i would have never played a match.
that being said i do respect anyone for their devotion to the game. if you love it that much, then more power to you.
but even the developers must know that not even acknowledging glitches and bugs and just moving on is not healthy.
and they seem to regularly start something, then loose interest and let it go. (guild spotlight, streamers, etc etc)
i probably will be gone after my 6 months of vip is up. but well see, depends on what the developers do.
THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS THIS. Its easy to make diamonds if playing with a team and doing T1/T2, but the road to get geared up to T1/T2 is so demanding and long, and during that time you farm small stuff for small reward. I already had many friends convinced to try NW only to have them drop the game around lev 30 because they can't progress fast enough...
I prefer the current formula of 2 skirmishes / 2 dungeons giving you the rewards instead of waiting for the events(that was dumb) but dungeons are not accessible to low levels, and skirmishes you can queue and wait a while if you try to do them low tier ones. Until your strong enough to one man the tower districk one, you are almost doom. You don't have weekly eithers at low level and leadership does not give AD anymore...
More or less all you get AD from is praying.... wow huh?
So my changes to AD would be as this
1) Tyranny of Dragon dailies
Those are tedious, mind blowingly boring and annoying. Having to find people for FIF or GS or such, i mostly skip those now on my secondary character and rather just get sigils by doing the rothe valley dragon and bottle lightning instead. They annoy me too much... So i feel the dailies should give AD. Every dragon killed once should give AD as well. It does not need to be that big, maybe 1000? Just enough so those people get something out of doing something very boring.
2) Had low tier dungeons for low tier players
They should be allow to do dungeons as well, like it used to be, with the one in the orc zone etc
3) Turn Gold into AD
Sure, some of you may say "what man ???" Yes, GOLD is useless in this game, you can just sometimes buy low end stuff from players but you need to stay in areas and look at the chat, its tedious. Im not saying 1 gold sould be 100 diamonds lol, but maybe 10 Gold = 100 diamonds? Not like you make that much gold at lower levels anyway, it would give them a small boost. Also at higher tiers, most of us don't even pick treasures anymore or we use greens to refine, so well not like we make tons of it.
4) If 3 is too extreme for you, i tough about another version, and i prefer this one too personally. Have seals get AD based on there levels. 100 Lion seals could give 100 AD, 100 pegasus 1000 etc. Or even just like the drake and unicorn one we get sometimes during events like currently, let us buy a bag of diamonds, rough of course. Low tier seals are useless now anyway, it would definately help the lower player.
In any case, those are my sugestions. AD making is fine for high level player, broken for low players. And the game loose a lot of potential player because the progression to lev 70 is not rewarding enough.
[]Full Metal Witch[]
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Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
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[]Full Metal Witch[]
4149 TiL
Guild: (X1) The Legendary Outlaws
"The Best of the Best"
"Nobody does it better"
#TLO BiS
I am currently sitting on 1.5 mil or so. it's the most I've ever had in this game. I got lucky with the gift boxes early on and made a ton on companions, as well as gemmed shirts and pants going way up in price the last few weeks. Just a month ago I was struggling with having any ad on hand at all. My current plan other than getting one or two artifacts to mythic is to just keep day trading and try to live off the interest so to speak.
as long as they keep the double ad a regular event. I'm actually quite happy with the market right now. no complaints. If they added Ad for a few more regular missions it would be nice. but really, the money is there now. it just depends on the double ad events to keep it working.
The thing that changed most for me was I played solo for the majority of that time and most of my time went into pvp, boons, Tiamat and trying out different character classes. In the last couple of months I've got more into guilds and I'm now in a stable group where I'm running dungeons every day.
We have so many new players in our guild our biggest problem is having enough geared people on at one time to carry 2 newer L70's through each dungeon but the investment is worth it as these people will become our new senior members/officers and in turn take over the lead roles in dungeons.
I'm happy with where the AH and Zen exchange are atm. I have no problem buying enough zen to get my next months VIP and finally bought a 110% mount for all my characters - previously only my DC had one. The prices for most artifacts in the AH is reasonable for either gearing or feeding, the only thing I'd wish for is the old drop rate on refining stones.
Xael De Armadeon: DC
Xane De Armadeon: CW
Zen De Armadeon: OP
Zohar De Armadeon: TR
Chrion De Armadeon: SW
Gosti Big Belly: GWF
Barney McRustbucket: GF
Lt. Thackeray: HR
Lucius De Armadeon: BD
Member of Casual Dailies - XBox
I wish I could get more seal of the protector, but like I said, too many bugs and glitches make it difficult to do. Epic dungeons can take anywhere from 30 to 90 minutes and that's almost an entire session for me, at the end of which the group might have an epic fail and I'll be left with little to nothing earned. Queue system is pretty broken. It's just painful to me and I play the game to unwind and have fun, not get frustrated with bugs.
So, in short, very little AD for me.
Side note: I just got Leadership to a high enough level that I can make AD with it. Big relief for me. Between that and invocation, I can at least get a little AD saved up for when I do get a good, long session in.
You can also run the lower level skirmishes rather quickly. It's not going to make you wealthy but if your time is limited, it's better than wasting 30+ minutes on an epic only to fail.
SoonerGM - HR Trapper
Haven - Righteous Cleric
Ethereal Justice - OP Paladin
SoonerGM - HR Trapper
Haven - Righteous Cleric
Ethereal Justice - OP Paladin
Meh I make my money off having 9 characters a combined amount of farming, dungeon running, and specifically stuffing inventories with gear to salvage on dbl AD, I made about 2million this last dbl AD event in less than 1 week, I just bout n sold zen, that's my go to, the astral diamond exchange.
I don't have the patience to peddle wares on the auction house, nor is my VIP high enough to not have a posting fee without using a low bid option to subvert the posting fees.
SoonerGM - HR Trapper
Haven - Righteous Cleric
Ethereal Justice - OP Paladin
I`ve never bought and sold Zen like that before but it had to be done. I usually earn my AD by playing content and selling some things on the AH, along with weeklies and dailies it all adds up in the end. I also just stash away all salvageable items for double AD events and live off that for a while.
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I'm just beginning on this game, so pretty much all AD I get is spent on buying refining stuff. To get AD I run dungeons/skirmishes, salvage, and selling some refining stones I have no intention to use.