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do you even strongholds bro?

dodgododgo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 870 Arc User
edited October 2015 in PvP Discussion
wondering how many people on this thing even run strongholds? for the last fortnight i have had zero pops nighttime australia time. weekends are okish..

whats your guysz experience with getting into matches?
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  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    I've totally given it up once I've learned that it was "WAI" for the companion bonuses to apply in that game type.

    They already milk money from us through like 20+ items to be upgraded through means that require either; (a) inhuman levels of time spent farming, (b) microtransactions everywhere, or (c) side with the game exploiters to illegally earn ADs and never get punished for it. Either do this, or forget all hopes of being competitive in PvP and just settle for being victimized as fodder.

    And on top of that, they want us to now open our wallets yet again, to obtain companions that can only be acquired through zen=money, which prices is like 2~5k ZEN per pop... and we need to have 5 of the BiS companions to compete?

    I say they can shove SH up their royal arsh. Don't need the frickin' PvP items. Just gonna sit this one out and wait for the next one.


    (ps) Just wait and see. Soon, we'll probably be getting "artifact armour / artifact hands / artifact feet / artifact head" stuff. Yay. 4 more items that require millions RP. At this rate I'm wondering why Cryptic doesn't just side with EA. They'd get along very well.
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  • dodgododgo Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 870 Arc User
    kweassa said:

    I've totally given it up once I've learned that it was "WAI" for the companion bonuses to apply in that game type.

    They already milk money from us through like 20+ items to be upgraded through means that require either; (a) inhuman levels of time spent farming, (b) microtransactions everywhere, or (c) side with the game exploiters to illegally earn ADs and never get punished for it. Either do this, or forget all hopes of being competitive in PvP and just settle for being victimized as fodder.

    And on top of that, they want us to now open our wallets yet again, to obtain companions that can only be acquired through zen=money, which prices is like 2~5k ZEN per pop... and we need to have 5 of the BiS companions to compete?

    I say they can shove SH up their royal arsh. Don't need the frickin' PvP items. Just gonna sit this one out and wait for the next one.


    (ps) Just wait and see. Soon, we'll probably be getting "artifact armour / artifact hands / artifact feet / artifact head" stuff. Yay. 4 more items that require millions RP. At this rate I'm wondering why Cryptic doesn't just side with EA. They'd get along very well.

    you dont need bis pets brah. just come with ya scrubby ones its all good. best part is if your losing you can leave no penalty so just keep logging till you get a good match. its win win. the other side doesnt need to flog a dead horse and you dont have to waste your time. i really wish you guys would give it another try. i love it!!! there seriously no content this mod and will be none next mod either so come and have fun in SHS sniping or coordinating etc

    theres more to do than just stand on node n pew pew too which is great... if you are a support type player go get donkeys... or upgrade the temp hp of the castle.. or kill golems easy and contribute to dragon burn

    or u can wreck face cap or harrasss catapults...

    i love this new mode so much, just wish i could play it but no ones queuing (i put in a ticket they said "we know"

    i feel like u guys just need more "tenacity" metaphorically speaking.. give it a few goes... takes a while to get used to.... just like alll the good content always did... remmber whiping at CN a millions times b4 finally doing it?!?!?! sooooo rewarding.. remeber tiamat at the start before we worked out zerg tactic?!??!

    SHS is like that..

    come give it another go guys!!!!
  • kweassakweassa Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    Sorry. Not gonna set foot in the land of Pokemon and Pigkatrice.
    Stop making excuses. Be a man.
    If you know something to be broken, stop using it.
    Otherwise, you've got no right to be speaking of 'balance.'
  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    SH PvP is fun imo, problem is...it doesnt pop anymore...
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  • ryoshinetteryoshinette Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 488 Arc User
    Prolly most of people agree, that "IDEA" of sh pvp is great. But there are few problems, mentioned weeks before going this mod live:
    - map size - influencing on lag issues (graphics/net). Incredible lag I must say.
    - design - glitching into catapults, healing catapults, graphics errors (sometimes I can climb certain hill, another time I can't)
    - mobility difference - playing GF I can't kill anyone till moment, that he will decide that he can kill me. Otherwise he will simply run away (maybe except CWs)
    - companion bonuses - that was a disqussion before mod release, and was stated that those ones will be unavailable ;/
    - taking/defending nodes should be like in domination/GG. Proper tactics as a key to victory, not blocking node with immortal OP or also immortal TR.
    - Last not least - guilds CAN'T que as a guild.

    And we are in point, where those who get sets don't care about this "epic guild wars"

    just my point of view
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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    it still pop, but yesterday i have 4 matches in the row against absolute premade. are they starting farming vouchers or what? these folks simply ruin game session for everyone
  • icyphishicyphish Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,255 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    a few Absolute members plays multiple classes, I think Tyrion plays 4 classes and he likes to keep all his characters' gears up to date. They might queue as a guild but some of them are probably not playing their strongest char :hushed:
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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    doesnt matter what characters. everybody was drained and roflstomped anyway

    imagine pvp, where everybody que as solo. unbalanced still, but you dont spend all evening "fight" 5 seconds before die or "fight" 5 seconds and win all
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  • fantasycharacterfantasycharacter Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 675 Arc User
    Between lag and pets I have no interest anymore.
  • benskix2benskix2 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 674 Arc User
    vinceent1 said:

    it still pop, but yesterday i have 4 matches in the row against absolute premade. are they starting farming vouchers or what? these folks simply ruin game session for everyone

    They aren't trying to ruin your game, they just the only people left who take this game seriously and they have nothing else to do.
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  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    benskix2 said:

    vinceent1 said:

    it still pop, but yesterday i have 4 matches in the row against absolute premade. are they starting farming vouchers or what? these folks simply ruin game session for everyone

    They aren't trying to ruin your game, they just the only people left who take this game seriously and they have nothing else to do.
    ahahahaahah, you cant be serious, dont know if i can laugh or cry now, should i regret them? poor guild, i will send these poor souls a message with advices

  • osterdracheosterdrache Member Posts: 480 Arc User
    I pitty them for trying so hard on a doomed and casual game.

    Their effort is pretty much wasted. If they wouldnt be that arrogant, I would even feel sorry for them ;-D
  • feanor70118feanor70118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    Only until I get my 4th piece of Lionsmane. Lag + overcompensating p2w premades + confusing map + more lag = bleah.
  • josephskyrimjosephskyrim Member Posts: 356 Arc User
    Nope, haven't tried it. I do need to ask, how long is a usual match? Gauntlgrym / Domination fights are already way too long for my schedule so I can't fit them in. I can only guess that SH siege goes for longer.
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  • zibadawazibadawa Member Posts: 1,266 Arc User
    I have been in a single SH pvp match this entire time. It was a waste of my time. The entire enterprise just carried the stink of failure to me from the outset. Taking an already broken PvP system and then compounding the ways to break it is top notch stupidity in my books.
  • skalt112skalt112 Member Posts: 1,089 Arc User
    Draining runes were the absolute worst addition to the game ever created.
  • carth118grapher#3119 carth118grapher
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    From what I've seen, I'm glad I never took part in this
  • beatannierbeatannier Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 692 Arc User
    vinceent1 said:

    it still pop, but yesterday i have 4 matches in the row against absolute premade. are they starting farming vouchers or what? these folks simply ruin game session for everyone

    Ruining? :o I'd call it rather a competitive match.

    I really like playing PMvPM vs Absolute.
    It's fun to slash PUGs, but playing with other well geared characters is more enjoyable, as it gives you more challenge, imho.
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  • lwedarlwedar Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 790 Arc User
    icyphish said:

    SH PvP is fun imo, problem is...it doesnt pop anymore...

    Agreed, the matches where the lag was bearable, it has been pretty fun. Lower geared player can just gather supplies and feed into catapults and ammo for points, kill golems etc

    Biggest drawbacks are a)doesn't pop anymore b) lagfests when paladins get to working
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  • sweatapodimassweatapodimas Member Posts: 257 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    One thing I've noticed about Absolute (most of them), they don't usually farm "PuGs" (a marginalization that I am sure isn't just unique to this game :P) or have that superiority complex from too much epeen. They will stop the beatdown and either allow capping or 1v1 matches, etc (in domination). A few of the older players actually will disscuss builds, etc with new players. If people whine about not having gear or call them "P2W fucktards, blah blah blah" then of course you're gonna get smacked. It's a game and you gotta remember that. It is not a reflection of your's and other people's personal lives.

    This being my first MMO (I'm old) I know this now, but I used to get freakin mad as hell. I have never played competative online games before (PVP at least).

    I guess you learn this the hard way here lol. Happy hunting and try to forgive and forget when this HAMSTER happens, life is too short.
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  • schietindebuxschietindebux Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    edited October 2015
    Just take a look at leaderboard, click on "wins" and you can read line by line who pugs from wich guild the most looking at their kill/death ratio
    Abnorm high kill/death ratios doesn't result from PM vs PM for sure
  • urlord283urlord283 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,084 Arc User
    I do but not everyday

    I think it is very unbalanced

    But I generally get something

    It is very hard to coordinate

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  • bghostbghost Member Posts: 41 Arc User
    the reward keeps me away. a hour+ for 1 banner and a HAMSTER LOCKBOX. nope, no, nty. ffs
  • lirithiellirithiel Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    Even before SH PvP went live I was following the threads and posts about the problems and when it was launched untouched and with companions to boot I decided I would not set foot in that place, and I haven't - not even when my guildies queued as a party. Biggest waste of time in the game from what I have read so far.
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  • feanor70118feanor70118 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,170 Arc User
    Ran it until I got my 4 pieces of lionsmane. Really glad to be done with that train wreck.
  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    i am only 14 banners left to get full lionsmane sets on both my HR and GF, happy for it, but my guild still need vouchers so i cant quit it
  • pando83pando83 Member Posts: 2,564 Arc User
    edited November 2015
    I'm close to get 3rd lionsmane piece (body, don't think i'll go through the pain for a 4th piece and some small extra stats...it's really too painful.
    It's laggy to the point it's unplayable for a GWF (sure auto-lock classes have an easier time) and it's just as unbalanced as the other modes, or even more.

    I can deal with the usual PvP lack of balance, but it's not even playing when the lag is so bad that basically playing anything that is not a ranged auto-aiming class, is like hitting randomly and hope your powers connect, somehow.
    It really is not PvP. I mean, the part where you fight other players is totally worthless cause the monster lag makes every fight a button smashing contest where players randomly hit other players.

    Should make a smaller map may be, and transform the mode in a 10v10 like Gauntgrym.

    Or a siege where 1 team attacks the SH, and the other defends it.

    The way it is right now, this mode is an absolute waste of time and nobody plays it except the few ones trying to farm lionsmane pieces. Once these few players will be done with farming, the game mode will be 100% dead.
    Not like you could define the current 1-hour queue or non-existent queu (mid-week) "alive". Best time to try is spam queue during week-end when big PvP guilds farm it, and just randomly get some wins for a 3xbanners reward. And quitting the hopeless ones where you see that you'll waste 30 minutes or more for some voucher and a lockbox.
  • vinceent1vinceent1 Member, NW M9 Playtest Posts: 1,264 Arc User
    the que at evenings is currently fastest from the start of the module. Its not pvp guilds groups rolling everywhere everytime and many casuals start to play it
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