Question about INT

silktrocity

So I've finally leveled a second TR. This one's purpose was purely to be built for PvP (so tips are welcome)

I wanted to go sabo but I also wanted to be an ACTUAL perma (like old school stacking INT.) When leveling I placed all of my +1's into CON and INT, but I'm now noticing after hitting level 60 that the 21 INT isn't really contributing to recharge speed like I thought it would.

Did I majorly eff up by thinking it would? Why do I feel like Im missing something? the Hit points are noticible from CON but my recharge speed is still only like 8%.

It's worth noting that my main TR (a scoundrel who hasn't put anything towards recharge speed) has about the same recharge speed...

any help? advice? or opinions?

rustlord

Don't need INT. Get TC4 with Exe capstone. Slot SS BnS feat your dodges and you have permastealth.

fatguns

Int helps alot to maintain a good/fluent rotacion even if you take DoT dmg, high recovery/int is the way to go

cesuke

@rustlord what is TC4

rustlord

@cesuke Tenacious Concealment Rank 4

sweatapodimas

fatguns said:

Int helps alot to maintain a good/fluent rotacion even if you take DoT dmg, high recovery/int is the way to go

I love my INT/Rec build, always have.

rayrdan

sweatapodimas said:

fatguns said:

Int helps alot to maintain a good/fluent rotacion even if you take DoT dmg, high recovery/int is the way to go

I love my INT/Rec build, always have.

int is wasted as stats.
200 recovery more is way better then int considering 200 = 1% + additional action points.
speccing for str and going silvery as offensive slots is way more effective

sweatapodimas

rayrdan said:

sweatapodimas said:

fatguns said:

Int helps alot to maintain a good/fluent rotacion even if you take DoT dmg, high recovery/int is the way to go

I love my INT/Rec build, always have.

int is wasted as stats.
200 recovery more is way better then int considering 200 = 1% + additional action points.
speccing for str and going silvery as offensive slots is way more effective

So my main attributes are INT and STR, dex is 21 with Lostmauth set. Is the extra points in dex really that necessary for a class that gets 100% crit chance in stealth? Maybe deflect is worth it though.

mirlegris

Are you in stealth 100% of time ? Int give just recharge speed, stacking recovery is easy and give ap gain. Dex give crit and Deflection. More efficient.

rayrdan

mirlegris said:

Are you in stealth 100% of time ? Int give just recharge speed, stacking recovery is easy and give ap gain. Dex give crit and Deflection. More efficient.

pretty much

sweatapodimas

No, not 100% of the time, I am trying out a WK scoundrel build right now. I tried taking the points and reassigning them to DEX and didn't see much benefit in a few matches. Hard to evaluate the increase in deflect. I noticed a very slight increase in cooldowns.

I am trying to max lifesteal and recovery, so I have limited slots for deflection boosts and it seems half-HAMSTER'd to spec my attributes for a stat that I am unable to focus on (I spent alot of RP on recovery artifacts). All of my "spare" feat points went to determined pursuit and arterial. I took roll with the punches and bloody brawler. Who am I kidding this IS half-HAMSTER'd LOL

I'm just trying a different approach than my usual Sab/CoS HAMSTER, it's kind of meh atm, but WK is fun with VP.

Thank you for the advice

mirlegris

For crit from Dex, you don't see a benefit in pvp cause of crit resistance from tenacity. Efficiency of crit in pvp depend of a lot of things. But, if you are a scoundrel, more crit = more cc no ?

For deflection, depend of your total deflection rate. Under 50%, not really efficient i think, but scoundrels can reach a very high % of deflection, and become better tanks than a tank. Efficiency of ability score distribution depends of the rest of the build, no ?

sweatapodimas

mirlegris said:

For crit from Dex, you don't see a benefit in pvp cause of crit resistance from tenacity. Efficiency of crit in pvp depend of a lot of things. But, if you are a scoundrel, more crit = more cc no ?

For deflection, depend of your total deflection rate. Under 50%, not really efficient i think, but scoundrels can reach a very high % of deflection, and become better tanks than a tank. Efficiency of ability score distribution depends of the rest of the build, no ?

Exactly, I chose to long ago focus on lifesteal and recovery. My artifacts and higher rank enchant reflect this. My deflection is around 28% with 21 DEX and the before-mentioned INT build, but I would have to sacrifice to get it higher.

Your point about crit and stuns is spot-on

rayrdan

as tr you will crit...no matter how much hard you try so a vorpal is pretty much needed if you dont wont to hit lower than normal hits when critting
the only thing you can try to do is running scoundrel with feytouch, tossing all the crit chance from gear and basically play with a <20% crit chance.
just for fun i think i will try this build soon when my vip pack will give a couple of coals more.
wk scoundrel with advantageous position and oppressive darkness...should be fun probably not that competitive tho

sweatapodimas

rayrdan said:

as tr you will crit...no matter how much hard you try so a vorpal is pretty much needed if you dont wont to hit lower than normal hits when critting
the only thing you can try to do is running scoundrel with feytouch, tossing all the crit chance from gear and basically play with a <20% crit chance.
just for fun i think i will try this build soon when my vip pack will give a couple of coals more.
wk scoundrel with advantageous position and oppressive darkness...should be fun probably not that competitive tho</p>

Yeah that's what I'm trying now, trans feytouched (my main, CW, is using my trans bilethorn lol), still have 32% crit with Duelist armor and maxed dex. It's very insidious damage, and it comes in bursts. I'm still trying to get the rotations down.

cesuke

I already tryed crit/ arpen/ recovery and what i discover is that Power is the best... Was not logic for me since 7 Rank 12s gives 12% damage but it hit really higher than the others builds.

sweatapodimas

So maybe power and recovery, (cruel enchantments?) if I want the ICD lower and higher effective damage? Ah, the joys of making hybrid r11 and 12's

rayrdan

Cruel is the best choice without doubts

cloudius1978

I'm keen to run a high Lifesteal and Recovery build. Managed to get my LS to approximately 21% in PVP.

For recovery, I run mostly Cruels in my Offensive slots but that ain't enough so am looking to further pump Recovery via artifacts (Rod of Imperial Restraint and the likes?). Anyone has any idea what is the minimum Recovery level we need to gun for? I vaguely recall seeing TRs with close to 10k Recovery.