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Nice little write up in the October 1st ask Cryptic. Already Fans are bringing up canon Tholian issues and the things being said looks promising.
The one thing that always interested me was the Tholian Web. The scout ships were unique and tough. Capable of being defeated, but when joined with another, they start to produce a web to encapsulate another ship until they are able to get together in force to capture or destroy the enemy ship.
A nice battle would be where your ship is disabled so the Tholians can ensnare your ship and then gather for bombardment or invasion.
Much like a spider (and with the legs) they will wrap a ship in a snare to take them out at their leisure.
Do you think Cryptic will set up a series of weekly episodes for the Tholians based on their ships and possibly an attack on your bridge as seen in the artists concept art? Or do you think it will involve beaming down to a planet to fight with them much like the Deferi episodes?
The one thing that always interested me was the Tholian Web. The scout ships were unique and tough. Capable of being defeated, but when joined with another, they start to produce a web to encapsulate another ship until they are able to get together in force to capture or destroy the enemy ship.
A nice battle would be where your ship is disabled so the Tholians can ensnare your ship and then gather for bombardment or invasion.
Much like a spider (and with the legs) they will wrap a ship in a snare to take them out at their leisure.
Do you think Cryptic will set up a series of weekly episodes for the Tholians based on their ships and possibly an attack on your bridge as seen in the artists concept art? Or do you think it will involve beaming down to a planet to fight with them much like the Deferi episodes?
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we'll most likely get the weeklys... then depending how they go... a bunch of UGC with them.
"Captain, the Tholians have disabled our ship's engines and they are starting to build a web.
However while they're creating the web, their shields in the aft section are weak.
We could beam over there and disable the Webbing System"
Captain:
"Okay people, suit up it's awfully hot over there so get an extra pack of cooling units for our space suits.
We'll channel Aux Power to the transporters to punch through their shields, take out that Webcaster and
disable their shield generators just long enough to beam us back.
Hopefully our reinforcements arrive before the Tholians can repair their Webcaster, let's go."
Why fight the Tholians on your ship, or on some planet?
Why not fight them on their ship?
I'd love to take a look inside a ship that has an internal temperature of a coulpe hundred degrees
(remember the blurry effect from "Enterprise"?) and is equipped with control panels made for Crystalline lifeforms.
Would be some real fun.:D
The UGC is so vague right now. We have no idea to what extend it will be or what it entails.
I will pretty much just guess, it will be similar to following instructions from a cookbook and taste testing every ingredient.
To sum it up, when you construct your own game, by the time you get to the end, you already know what it involves, who is involved, know the parameters of the Player and NPC, how they interact, yadayada. No surprises except for the people that did not construct it. As the cook, you are pretty much full of your dish, and really are not excited about it anymore. Not to say that your guests will not be pleased though.
Nice. That is a wonderful suggestion. We are about 258 years past "Enterprise". I wonder what new technologies they have since "Enterprise & TOS"?
That must be how they annex planets.
Ensnaring Planets. Hmmm great way to capture and enslave an entire species/civilization.
Already not liking these guys.
Memory Alpha Wiki:
"The Tholians join the Typhon Pact (β), an alliance of non-Federation powers, in the novel A Singular Destiny, set in 2381. "
meh destiny = failure
Yes but, they have been a very bad race towards peaceful relationships with the Federation and would team up with others to provide safety to their own territory.
Sounds reasonable that they would form this treaty and that Cryptic would use it. Unless of course they side with the Federation and the entry of the Tholians is to make the Klingons more miserable than they already are. Which is music to this Tribbles ears.
"Oh the sound of Klingons wailing for their mommies at night is our top selling soundtrack, even better with surround sound".
What storyline does the Tholians have in Cryptic thus far?
I don't know of any. But I do know they are threatened in the Alpha Quadrant as is everyone. Allthough have yet to see a Tholian Borg?
I agree, but in the wiki it does say they are territorial and in the past, they have hafd ambassadors, so as a race, this is likely correct, but as their government, I would say, they realize that unions should be formed to preserve their borders.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Typhon_Pact
"The Typhon Pact was an alliance of six interstellar states formed in the wake of the Borg Invasion of 2381 as an opposing force to the United Federation of Planets and its allies."
That Borg invasion did not occur in the STO timeline.
The STO novel "The needs of the Many" clearly establishes that the timelines diverge before that.
Hence no Typhoon pact.
Not to argue with your reasoning, but here is another reason you may have overlooked.
Timelines that diverge are not opposite of the original timeline. A divergence is just another road that leaves from the divergence point with suttle differences.
There can be billions of roads leaving a divergence point, each with minor differences and some are not noticeable for years past the divergence point, for instance.
Main timeline- you have a son that eventually discovers a way to stop the war with the Klingons.
Divergence point- you have a son that is killed a day before his discovery and peace is not created.
IDIC if I ever saw it. You know for a race that never believed in time travel and alternate realities, their motto sure hits the nail on the head.
heh and none of them want to work together... the spoon heads tryed to work with the terran empire... but well... the alien thing sorta prevented that from happening...
If the Tholians sided with someone.... hmmmmm... either the terran empire... so the empire and come and go between universes... or who else we got.... the Tar monster?
Breen, perhaps?
The frosties and the molties, both xenophobic and both seem to think the galaxy belongs to them, just that nobody else noticed that seems to annoy them...
Indeed, this has always been the great appeal of the Tholians for me. It's part of the reason that they're my all-time favorite Star Trek species. What storyline do they have in the Star Trek universe thus far?
The Tholians are strange and scary and, ultimately, downright obscure. The mystique that surrounds them is only heightened by the fact that they've had so few appearances in canon Trek. We've only seen fleeting glimpses, and what we have seen of them is wild enough to leave our imaginations reeling. Given what we know of their biology, can you imagine what the interior of a Tholian ship might look like? Can you imagine the cities on the Tholian homeworld?!
There are endless possibilities with the Tholians, possibilities to enhance the way both characters and missions are modeled in Star Trek Online. I only hope that the development team thinks well outside the box with this species and that they think big. The Tholians are exotic and extreme, in every sense. Here's hoping they'll bring a sense of that to an upcoming mission series!
Agreed! If Cryptic thinks of something good, I hope CBS does not stand in their way.
We are excited too! Can't wait for you guys----going to make a Tholian MMO right now!!!!!
Tribbler's The Tholian Web!
What do you think?
Remember to look at the information developed through the Star Trek: Vanguard series of books.
I was about to mention that. There aren't many details, but it's a great series to use to get a 'feel' for the Tholians.