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Are T5u and higher needed?

siollefulsiolleful Member Posts: 17 Arc User
Since i am a silver player who came back to the game.I missed alot, i do havea t5 defiant and am wondering if that will do for the end game things.Im not expecting to be amzing, or anything but ive lvoed the whole fast nippy ships, thes eped and fire power of the defiant ect, Always loved watching it on ds9 . Do i need higher that that vessel or can i stick to it if i get a good build for it?

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    ffttfftt Member Posts: 715 Arc User
    T5 is good enough for end game. T5Us and T6s are better but by no means necessary. I played T5 ships long after T6s were introduced, although I finally upgraded some to T5Us right before the T6 veteran ships were introduced (DOH!) and only bought a T6 ship pack when the multimission ships were added (I was flying T5U multimissions and my stipend had built up enough to buy it).
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    siollefulsiolleful Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    Thanks,it helps,i iwll start on a t5 and work my way up to getting a t5u or t6
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    ffttfftt Member Posts: 715 Arc User
    The Victory is Life expansion, coming out in June, is documented as giving out a T5 ship and upgrade token at some level over 60 so you won't have to work too hard. But don't count on upgrading that free Defiant since the upgrade tokens only work on specific ships.
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    iamynaughtiamynaught Member Posts: 1,285 Arc User
    I would say it'd depend on what you want to do at endgame.

    If it's PvP, then yeah, T5-U at minimum. However, player skill counts for a large part of PvP so I wouldn't be surprised to see the really great PvPers able to decimate folks in T5-U and T6 ships while using a vanilla T5, purely on skill alone.

    If it's Elite Queues, I'd say T5 can work, but you might need a lot of expensive gear to keep up and even then you may die a lot, simply due to the ship not gaining more HP as you level and the lack of Ship Mastery. The Ship Trait that T6 ships get can help, but it may not be needed.

    If you're just planning on running Normal or even some Advanced queues and story missions, then T5 will do just fine.

    There may be instances where you may have trouble, but once you get used to the different challenges and learn the tactics needed to overcome them, you should do okay.

    Player skill is the measuring stick at the end of the day though. T5-U and T6 just shore up some holes in some players skill level (or lack of, in my case).
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    dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    edited April 2018
    Plus the summer event is coming and will give you a free T6 ship w/ minimal grind. just fly the 3 paths each day for a couple weeks. Takes like 5-10mins a day depending on your skill at flying a jetpack.

    Your Defiant should be fine, just get your weapons and gear to Mk14.

    *If you don't have a Delta Recruit yet... make one! You don't have to level it up to max during the event, just get it to level 10 or so then you can do it at your leisure. As you level it and do 'delta stuff', that toon and your others will get extra loot and stuff. Not a bad bonus.
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    jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    For now T5 ships can be used for end game content. I have a 2nd STO account that is strictly free to play (silver) which all of 3 my max level characters (excluding my recently created max level Delta Recruit) have been using the free T5 ships selected at level 40 for the past 16 to 33 months depending on when they were created. I can have even done some advanced STFs with them. To celebrate finally filing my US taxes on April 17, the following day I switch those 3 characters to the T6 Cross Faction Battlecruisers I purchased back on Black Friday 2017.

    However, the ViL Expansion will increase the max level to 65. That means the difficulty will also increase as well; meaning enemies will deal more damage and also be able to soak up more damage. That that point a T5u ship or at least a T5 C-Store ship is likely to be highly recommended. Having said that, I will switch back to using the free T5 ships to see how well they hold up.

    Also, I just want to point out that I have not allocated any of the Specialization Points that I have earned which means I am not using any of the Specialization Trees.
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    arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    I ran with nothing more than the free ships and free gear for a long time before ever buying my first T6...and then going LTS. Pugging CCA, (before players figured out to insta win it), I regularly placed in the top three. Before they made the Borg RA a que, I ended up in there alone every now and then and managed to kill four groups by myself, although I could never kill the final boss. Not saying it was easy, but it could be done, and that was a stock, free, T5 with no gear beyond MK XII VR, all aquired from drops and missions.

    As someone above stated, T5U and T6 are by no means required and serve more to just reduce the game skills required to play at "end game"
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    arionisaarionisa Member Posts: 1,421 Arc User
    New post to avoid the edit monster.....

    STO prides itself on being truly F2P, with no real money required to be spent to play. That being said, if Cryptic is going to be giving away a T5(U) and the T5U upgrade for it, I would say that they feel that a T5U is going to be required for the new content for all but the very skilled players.
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    siollefulsiolleful Member Posts: 17 Arc User
    thanks all for the help
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,344 Arc User
    siolleful wrote: »
    Since i am a silver player who came back to the game.I missed alot, i do havea t5 defiant and am wondering if that will do for the end game things.Im not expecting to be amzing, or anything but ive lvoed the whole fast nippy ships, thes eped and fire power of the defiant ect, Always loved watching it on ds9 . Do i need higher that that vessel or can i stick to it if i get a good build for it?

    Whilst the extra stats that T5U and T6's give an advantage, a well built T4 and even basic T5 with MK XIV (and soon MK XV) equipment can do any content. As other's said, F2P will get a free T5U to play with at Lvl 61. Don't resist upgrading your equipment, which some players still refuse to do. This makes a bigger difference than people think.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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    postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    The free T5U coming at level 61 makes me think that the gamma content won't be overly challenging for that level of ship even though to an outsider it looks like its coming 10+ levels late.

    My f2p account does have some store ships for the fed due to a lot of patience converting dil to zen, klink and rommie use the event freebies. On ps4 it's the same setup with fed having some store ships and the other factions event only. The ones I have gone for are ones that I know I like flying and will actually use, traits are simply not enough of a carrot to get me to buy a ship that will get mothballed.

    My LTS klinks still use the kar'fi which doesnt have a t6 variant because it's a ship I like flying and have never felt myself struggle doing content in. And thats despite having quite a wide selection of store ships to choose from.
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