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Mythic forms?

damzelltrilldamzelltrill Member Posts: 443 Arc User
in The Academy
I can't remember if in any of the novels there where any Mythic forms (example naga form aliens with a snake tail for legs) other the the Furies. where there any? I'm adding some non-humanoid species to my sto fic crews.
A Trill, a Gorn, a Jem'Hadar, Bejoran and a Voth walk into a bar, and the Bartender asks "What is this a Joke?"
"Nope, just my away team" the trill replies before ordering a round for the bar.

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    tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,637 Arc User
    Horta are as about as non-human as you're going to get in canon. Hurq are non-humanoid in STO. 8472/Undine are less humanoid than the vast majority of Star Trek aliens, though still pretty close beyond their three legs and lack of identifiable mouths.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    Yea... there's really only the Changelings, a couple Xindi species, Undine, and Hortas that I know of that aren't humanoid. Although Changelings can take on humanoid form, they're not naturally humanoid. Don't know what the Hur'q will look like yet so I'm holding off on including them.

    But yea... a snake style species might be interesting.
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    voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    You have to remember, Star Trek is based largely around the TV series. I am pretty sure they didn't even use computer generated ships until DS9. Everything else was basically Models in the vain of the original star wars trilogy.

    That level of technology extended to the Aliens as well. Because you had to basically have a human actor play the part of the "Alien" all the aliens were pretty much humanoid. Basically guys in makeup and masks, and even that was rather expensive. Which is why you have so little of them on the show beyond the "Humans with a little bit of makeup".

    Fortunately STO isn't as restricted in their technology. So hopefully we get more Non-human NPCs, sadly though, they will probably be enemy species.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,263 Arc User
    actually with non-human NPC unless you want to build everything per NPC, gear is gonna be a problem. Even WoW that has much more resources then STO and all playble races are essentially humanoid and only 1 non-humanoid species have player gear enabled.

    Humanoid species (or species that are essentially humanoid) can use all player gear as they're using same 3D rig or very similar rigs. That's why gear on non-humanoid speices is built into the model rather then equipment, which means unique models for each NPC type you see in game.
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    Not exactly what you're after, but these are probably as close as you're going to get in canon due to the nature of the productions using 'human' actors.

    Selay(serpent): http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Selay
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    Anticans(canine): http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Antican
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    Jarada(insect): http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Jarada
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    voyagerfan9751voyagerfan9751 Member Posts: 1,120 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    actually with non-human NPC unless you want to build everything per NPC, gear is gonna be a problem. Even WoW that has much more resources then STO and all playble races are essentially humanoid and only 1 non-humanoid species have player gear enabled.

    Humanoid species (or species that are essentially humanoid) can use all player gear as they're using same 3D rig or very similar rigs. That's why gear on non-humanoid speices is built into the model rather then equipment, which means unique models for each NPC type you see in game.

    Which is pretty standard in MMOs. And why I specifically mentioned NPCs, Because NPCs are typically built from the ground up, they can be non-standard. Which is where you get non-humanoid species like the Undine and Tholians.

    But for a Playable species, they need to work with the Uniform/gear system. Which means you can't really deviate too much from the base human model. Even in a game like STO.

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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
    Hey... those Vipers are no joke. They can be nasty in XCom! And don't get me started on the Viper King either.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    captan2er0captan2er0 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    There's a old TOS novel, The First Frontier I believe, that had sentient velociraptors and a few other dinosaurs interacting with Kirk and crew. It's been a while since I've read that, so don't hold me to a tee on that.

    Not sure if that's what you're looking for or not though.
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    therealtedtherealted Member Posts: 58 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    I don't know about the novels (never really got into them), but the animated series has all kindsa crazy beasties to overcompensate for the "humans with lumpy heads" syndrome of the original series. Check out a sample here:

    http://www.danhausertrek.com/AnimatedSeries/Lifeforms.html

    Edit: But stay away from the Kzinti and the Slavers - they were imported from Larry Niven's writing, and he (or his estate) have become a bit more possessive since.
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    if you want non humanoid aliens I recommend watching TAS...
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    sotsogmsotsogm Member Posts: 67 Arc User
    vetteguy904 wrote: »
    if you want non humanoid aliens I recommend watching TAS...

    Oh, it would be so fantastic to have playable Edosians....


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    admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    I would love a playable Nassat, myself.
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    dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    I'm no programmer, but I imagine that making a non-humanoid playable race would be a huge nightmare. There is so much human modeling stuff pre-made, they can probably buy a copy of one off the market but would have to build from scratch a model for a truly alien figure.
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