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[MOD 8] Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation build
namrekca
Member Posts: 67 Arc User
Updated: January 17, 2016
Two words, Twisted Weapons!
The Twisted set is the set you will want. When you build 24 stacks of Bloodlust, you will gain 3840 Power. If you are not yet to 2500IL required to do the Epic Demogorgon encounter, then my opinion would be to go for either the Burning set, which has a chance to instantly restore 25% of your AP, or the Drowned set, which restores 50% of your max Hp when struck. Also, if you can obtain it, you will want the Lostmauth set for added DPS. For enchants, I chose Dark in defense slots for lifesteal and am in the process of switching to mostly Azure in offense for crit. Artifacts are Sigil of the Devoted, Lostmauth's Horn of Blasting, Sigil of the Controller, and Black Ice Beholder.
The Feats:
Damnation Tree
Parting Blasphemy - removing a curse does 6% of weapon damage
Sparkbinder - Immolation Spirits lasts 5 seconds longer
Warding Spirits - 10% less damage with active puppet
Spirit Fire - puppet deals 50% weapon damage to nearby foes every second (actual damage is ~10%)
Ghastly Commander - when puppet is active, you deal 10% more damage and 2% more lifesteal
Wrathful Souls - puppet deals 100% more damage and their attacks deal 15% lifesteal, healing you
Soul Desecration - "permanent" puppet
Fury Tree
Critical Promise - after a crit, you deal 10% weapon damage
Burning Soul - soul sparks increase your damage by .3% per spark
The Powers:
The Boons:
*I did not list the Stronghold boons as mileage will vary based on your guild.
The Companions:
Fire Archon - 7% damage increase to targets under 50% health
Siege Master - 4% damage increase; 8% on Stronghold map
Air Archon - 5% damage increase to targets not at full health + .5% for each additional archon
Erinyes - 10% critical severity
Zhentarim Warlock - taken to legendary with 3 perfect bonding runestones
*If you can't get the Zhentarim Warlock, then substitute any fast attacking companion
Playstyle and Loadout:
The Soulbinder Warlock is versitile and can be played a couple of different ways. One way is to use the Soul Scorch encounter which has no cool down, but uses your stored sparks. The other way is more like that of a Fury SW, which will increase your damage the more sparks you have.
For my mainhand artifact power, I chose Essence Defiler which increases the damage of that at-will 8%. For offhand artifact power I chose Dust to Dust which increases your damage by .25% per spark up to 5%.
Class Features
Dust to Dust
Borrowed Time
Dailies
Immolation Spirits
Tyrannical Threat
At-Wills
Essence Defiler
Dark Spiral Charge
Encounters
Warlock's Bargain
Hadar's Grasp
Dreadtheft
Typical rotation would consist of Immolation Spirits > Warlock's Bargain > Hadar's Grasp > Dreadtheft. Primary at-will is Essence Defiler. Use Dark Spiral Charge when it has 3 charges.
Occasionally I will swap in Harrowstorm and Fiery Bolt such as when killing lots of trash mobs. When using these 2 encounters, you will want to cast Harrowstorm before Fiery Bolt. Fiery Bolt consumes curse, Harrowstorm does not.
Two words, Twisted Weapons!
The Twisted set is the set you will want. When you build 24 stacks of Bloodlust, you will gain 3840 Power. If you are not yet to 2500IL required to do the Epic Demogorgon encounter, then my opinion would be to go for either the Burning set, which has a chance to instantly restore 25% of your AP, or the Drowned set, which restores 50% of your max Hp when struck. Also, if you can obtain it, you will want the Lostmauth set for added DPS. For enchants, I chose Dark in defense slots for lifesteal and am in the process of switching to mostly Azure in offense for crit. Artifacts are Sigil of the Devoted, Lostmauth's Horn of Blasting, Sigil of the Controller, and Black Ice Beholder.
The Feats:
Damnation Tree
Parting Blasphemy - removing a curse does 6% of weapon damage
Sparkbinder - Immolation Spirits lasts 5 seconds longer
Warding Spirits - 10% less damage with active puppet
Spirit Fire - puppet deals 50% weapon damage to nearby foes every second (actual damage is ~10%)
Ghastly Commander - when puppet is active, you deal 10% more damage and 2% more lifesteal
Wrathful Souls - puppet deals 100% more damage and their attacks deal 15% lifesteal, healing you
Soul Desecration - "permanent" puppet
Fury Tree
Critical Promise - after a crit, you deal 10% weapon damage
Burning Soul - soul sparks increase your damage by .3% per spark
The Powers:
The Boons:
*I did not list the Stronghold boons as mileage will vary based on your guild.
The Companions:
Fire Archon - 7% damage increase to targets under 50% health
Siege Master - 4% damage increase; 8% on Stronghold map
Air Archon - 5% damage increase to targets not at full health + .5% for each additional archon
Erinyes - 10% critical severity
Zhentarim Warlock - taken to legendary with 3 perfect bonding runestones
*If you can't get the Zhentarim Warlock, then substitute any fast attacking companion
Playstyle and Loadout:
The Soulbinder Warlock is versitile and can be played a couple of different ways. One way is to use the Soul Scorch encounter which has no cool down, but uses your stored sparks. The other way is more like that of a Fury SW, which will increase your damage the more sparks you have.
For my mainhand artifact power, I chose Essence Defiler which increases the damage of that at-will 8%. For offhand artifact power I chose Dust to Dust which increases your damage by .25% per spark up to 5%.
Class Features
Dust to Dust
Borrowed Time
Dailies
Immolation Spirits
Tyrannical Threat
At-Wills
Essence Defiler
Dark Spiral Charge
Encounters
Warlock's Bargain
Hadar's Grasp
Dreadtheft
Typical rotation would consist of Immolation Spirits > Warlock's Bargain > Hadar's Grasp > Dreadtheft. Primary at-will is Essence Defiler. Use Dark Spiral Charge when it has 3 charges.
Occasionally I will swap in Harrowstorm and Fiery Bolt such as when killing lots of trash mobs. When using these 2 encounters, you will want to cast Harrowstorm before Fiery Bolt. Fiery Bolt consumes curse, Harrowstorm does not.
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Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
Soul scorch highest single target dps spell available
Borrowed time best survival feat
Surprisingly Shadow walk is also extremely awesome, 40% increased speed does things liek busting 3 caps in VT boss fight or zap to far ally to revive them. Movement is an effective defence
I would drop one point of life steal boon in ToD for 10% increased healing. 1% LS is not worth 10% incoming healing. you can take 4% LS and 10% incoming healing
Dark revelry. It's awesome, (then again I'm playing Fury perhaps not as good for damnation)
Accursed soul is a good panic button when ur HP is low. Dark spiral is only really good if you got the artifact weapon, otherwise in most cases Hand of blight is better for the higher damage and debuff
Setup for damnation I'd use
Bosses
WB KF SS
Trash
WB DT and whatever u fee llike putting there
It is my my life style, my doctrine and my state of mind,
You fight well, but without focus and discipline, you will fall.
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Agreed with pretty much everything here.
As far as moveset, for bosses, WB SS DT has been my favourite - DT does well to replenish sparks while also dealing decent damage.
For trash.... old combination used to be WB harrowstorm DT for occassional CC and area mob damage. These days I find myself favouring Arms of Hadar more and more - it can be used to get a breather if you play it right, slaps often, and for a special reason, due to the accursed graphics bug I just don't see where my harrowstorm is at XD
Dark Ravelry only give 20% power/speed wich isn't that great, as pve Damnation do higher damage over fury, for pvp, fury is far better cause of the high single target damage, i prefer the safety rotation, Immolation spirits+WB+Hadar Grasp+DT(remember to slot Dust to Dust, wich give us 80% ap at 30 sparks) i do change dt for SS for fast moving bosses like valindra/lostmouth...
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
nice build on it bro . But i am in SW SB Tempation/Fury Tree . But your build look good on several situation .
I am build/gear up with HitPoint Build . Tempation tank HoT build and also semi DPS damage . Tyr to be survival Warlock for PVE situation .
23% life steal chances and proc with 3 times chance to steel from boon . Build more Incoming Heal bonus at rate + Healing from Power , renegeration around 6% . Build up for HitPoint will benefit your Spark .
Spark(30) give u : 15% deflect chances(artifact benefit) , Life steal 2% , damage 9% and 2.4%(base your hit point) heal over time(2 sec)Class feature Barrow Time
Companion is important too with 5 benefit of your build , and i equip base on my current hit point situation . what happen if your hp below 30% / 50% and 100% . And the compaion will play the role of the situation of your Hit Point .
THE BEST TEAM IS ALWAYS LEAD THE BEST YOUR BUILD .
THE BEST WEAPON THAT WE HAVE IS TEAM MATES , NOT YOU .
2. dust to dust only refills AP bar by hopping from one trash mob to the next, when they fade away and heal you,as far as i can see
during boss fights i use SS and see no benefit from dust to dust?
3. damnation is broken tree with 600k+ puppet-hits
4. 30 sparks give +3,9% lifesteal , testing on dummy
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
Mod 10:
[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.
Mod 9:
[Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
Yea, started using SS on bosses, changed guide to reflect
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
only T1 is lesser, but also a ton more than SB fury
and since i completet the lolset, PVP has completely changed, its me the guys arer running from most time
If it is terrible, do some T2 runs with me. Show me how is it terrible. Please!
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
1st the highest DR on trash mobs is 40%, on bosses 60%. Why do you build yourself over 70% damage resistance ignore?
- You waste your stats here
2nd With your preaty low CON stat why would you put any point on the Blood Pact of Cania feat
- Makes no sense
3rd you say that 10% personal DPS (with your super squishy ~26k HP Soul Puppet) is more important than 20% power and run speed to the WHOLE party.
- In short instead of the granteeed always up 5% dmg boost to the party you picked an uncertain 10% personal dps.
4th Your boons are focusing on solely power, crit and regeneration.
- The SW is a HP based Life Steal dependant class. To do any solo content with your build is a hell.
5th where is your augment companion?
- Why dont you recommend Ioun Stone to the players? o.O
And lasty, as an active SW player i do know preaty well that the pupet is bugged in t2 dungeons and every swing on it is between 200. 000 - 1 500 000. Just because you have a bugged tool in your kit that doesnt justify your bad build.
EDIT: I do have a style that easly offends people. If anybody did take anything personally i do apologize.
1. if you didn't mean to be rude why did you call it a "mis" guide?
2. mispelled "flwas", its irony that your word "flaws" is flawed
3. dread ring boons are there, don't know what you are talking about
4. he explained his choice in companions, even diagotsu chose a tank companion over ioune stone for his build. if your still wondering why, go read diagotsu's build guide
when you critque someone else's guide like you did, expect someone else to pick at your flaws
agree in most points except:
Bloodpact is 1% bonusdamage for every point, as human what would you propose to take?
i put also 2 points there and i would not say its wasted since bonus damage is allways good independant from your con stat, I got 23 con and my bonus damage is all in all 31%, skipping the 2 points from blodpact i would have 29% bonus damage
an alternativ would be energizing curse in my case to have 5/5, that seems to work not that bad , you realls feel the difference
specced that way first time 3/5 and more AP from at will are very welcome, so your TT/Sprits are faster using essencedefiler very frequently, and AP gain is essential as crit for SB
taking charisma as high as he can is not that bad, because stacking crit nearly up to 10k in my case and wearing lolset I only get 45,6% critchance, so I guess his build is about 50% , thats pretty good, a bit more HP would be nice, so I also would take 1600HP instead of 3% AP gain in sharandar boons, the bonus Hp from con is very poor
commander is also 2% Lifesteal
all in all you are right, going temp tree would give you vampire sparks, that gives you 3,9% LS bonus (more than it should)+ LS-bonus for crits + movement/20% power
tbh, most time doing dungeons my sparks are empty bc I spam SS, so burnig soul does not help that much, but vampire sparks don´t either (normally not needed in dungeons-right)
so you have flat 2% LS at least + 10% extradamage from puppet/commander in case your puppet is not dead most time and the tank holds aggro, normally works not that good especially when taking mocking spirit
going solo its pretty sure that going temp-tree its much better
SB-Damnation vs Fury in PVE:
Runnning Dungeons SB damnation also works much better in T1 and skirmishes compared to SB fury in my case, so its not only T2.
Running skirmishes you also deal nasty damage, and running elol I am definintly sure that my actual damnation-build is far better than my fury build before
only thing that really sucks is the puppet staying outside the door most time doing bossfights so I allways go GM help/exit dungeon to reset the puppet
going solo I am not that sure about performance, my puppet doesn´t help much, the damage is very poor beeing on my own and having no party buffs or crazy interactions with the puppet
Edit: Also, Priestess of Sehanine Moonbow is quite nice companion as external (the only cons are 3 defensive slots) - +20% crit chance for team is really high boost.
Mod 10:
[Combat (Self)] Critical Hit! Your Killing Flames deals 16636893 (1009292) Fire Damage to Ethraniev Marrowslake.
Mod 9:
[Combat (Self)] Your Murderous Flames deals 376274433 (18876929) Fire Damage to Red Tiamat Head.
1. because i do feel this guide is misleading the inexpereinced Warlkocks here.
2. it has nothing to do with the guide or my opinion, nothing more than provocation
3. i did not find it, but i did look for it. Browser problem maybe.
4. even if he is explain his companions the choice is wrong.
intellect Devourer - 2% combat advantage - You are not hellbringer SW
Blink Dog - 2% combat advantage damage - You are not hellbringer SW
(combat adavantage is base damage +15%, if you have CHA 28 + Devourer + Blink Dog your combat advantage damage is = base + 18,3%. If we take the fact that you are not always in combat advantage since you are SB, the resoult is disappointing.)
Air Archon - 2% damage to targets not at full health - Good pick, upgrade it as soon as you can
Erinyes - 10% critical severity - Mandatory without a question
Battlefield Medic - 6% incoming healing - I use this as my summoned companion to offset the fact that lifesteal **** now. - Now this is ??? for me.
Between this companions there is no TANK companion.
Damnation has high up time on CA due too the puppet and using a tanking companion increases it. A tanking companion eats damage for you. You have to consider play style differences.
Well i think you guys see this total wrong .
Combat advantage is 15% dmg bonus .
Each % you get from companions combat advantage stat or from char is calculated with this formula.
BASE 15 % other modifiers just give *0,xx nothing more .
So lets say KF deal 20000 dmg if you have combat advantage the extra dmg will be total 23000 if you have other combat advantage bonuses lets say you stack up 30% more how will this work 20000+(20000*0.15=3000)+(3000*0.30=900) total =23900
What can 'a' augment companion give to y 4000/4000/2500 stat =10%dmg 10% crit 15% arp vs HAMSTER 900 extra dmg on 23k dmg.
You only see huge numbers cuz in t2 combat advantage is bugged for enemy mobs and for puppet to this is why the puppet hit those large dmg ,
I have a really nice GWF my DPS output is almost the same az lazaroth's GWF and belive it or not atriar can somtimes over come me in "seldarine set".
My personal view is , i dont recommend this build someway namrekca you shoud rebuild/tweek your build to be viable cuz the way i see even misery pvp build is better then yours in this state .
I just can add this dropp your Soul Scorch in dungeon both hadar's Gasp and firely bolt are better in dungeons cuz HG can save your team lot time if you curse your target before cast it and FB have a good reaction with TT cuz if you cast the TT on 3 targets you will get x3 FB .
In solo i think hadar's Gasp beat anything with the folowing rota WB +HG+DT.
But dont give up i see a good intention to help your SW felows but you shoud ask others too and lisen to pro advice before you make a final build.
Learn from lazaroth he is always asking testing stuff out before he post somthing and mislead ppl.
This is why i dont make guids cuz someone will come with better idea .
And if they folow your guid they waste money you will be blamed.
Who know ???? next mod patch comes out and boom CA is fixed in game your pupped now deals 2k dmg ppl will hate y LOL set fixed now you have bad artifact set etc etc.. .
This is why we say we dont recomend it .
Cuz i you make a guide you think your build is the best but belive it or not in a MMO (from millions of ppl) thinking you are the best is a bit.....
I use an augment , but compagnion would deal probably more damage bc it gives you the buff from bonding RS up to 3 times (some wrote 5 times) so its an incredible ammount of stat boost you happen to get
as I remember most take a perfect and a normal they mix it, can´t remember why
I also remember that some player tested the cambion magus/like erinyes that gives you crit severity (think its 10% epic version), was about 7 mio AD last time i checked
10% crit? do you mean the buff from the black dragon ioun stone? that only procs if HP is <50%, does not happen that much as warlock, except you are dead, better used by GWF
you really think, that HG+FB+DT on TT are better than tab WB + DT+SS on TT?
did you test that or do you only feel that
single target is tab WB+DT+SS and having spirits most time up, they do crazy damage T1 or T2 and refill your sparks if crittnig very fast
I will run your recommandation one time in T1 and T2 and come back here, but I hardly doubt it will deal any better, very curious (me), to test something new
In wich dungeon does atriar overcome you with seldarine set?
in case you mean T2 dungeon thats no big deal, bc untile now I outdamaged every GWF even far better geared ones, T1 would be surprising to me and hard to believe in case he does not use ilianbruen set?
since using lolset fro short time (espec for PVP) I do not feel a very big damageboost compared to my former setup having charisma belt, but I may be wrong, just an impression
doing PVP its the only option to get out of this sad situation the warlock has to deal with
Personally i recommend SS only in single target situations for example in Lair of Lostmauth.
In wich dungeon does atriar overcome you with seldarine set?
in case you mean T2 dungeon thats no big deal, bc untile now I outdamaged every GWF even far better geared ones, T1 would be surprising to me and hard to believe in case he does not use ilianbruen set?
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I say somtimes not always
But the only dungeon/skirmish he cant and will never beat me is Esot.
But in VT - LoL - MC he can matter what are other playes cuz Prot.P/DC/CW can be really pain for SW's cuz they all trow mobs away also if we run with more then 1 GWF there are lot less hp left cuz SW isnt really a brust DPS class.
The best PT setup when SW can shine is GWF +GF+HR+OP healer.
Any way he is running elven armor set .
Also i dont say Hadar's Gasp give y insane dmg i say its usefull in T2 (cuz you can help to CC those insane elit mobs) and do better dmg then Soul Scorch with TT the only problem with it is the long recharge time .
I recomend it in solo play cuz dealing with ranged mobs this is the most usefull encounter i say it agan SW have no brust dmg he cant oneshot those ranged mobs.
1. I have 66%, not over 70, but I do agree I have a little too much. I had more before, but changed an artifact to gain crit.
2. OK, tell me what you would recommend then.
3. You greatly underestimate the uptime of the puppet. The puppet is up most of the time and does not die as easily as you think it does. You also recommend feats based around lifesteal, which is even more unpredictable.
4. 1 boon is regen. I can solo some small HE's in IWD, yup that's hell...
5. I prefer a healer companion
Yes, in T2 the puppet is bugged, but I do lots of DPS in T1 and skirmishes as well. I solo much, much better than when I was HB Fury.
The bottom line is that many people that I have run with kept asking about my build. There was no SB Damnation build posted anywhere that I could find, so I posted my build. Several people have taken their SW off the shelf after trying this build because it made the class fun again for them. You don't like the build, fine, you are entitled to that. Others that have actually tried it, like it.
Vell Crowe
Vell Crowe's Soulbinder Damnation SW build
These are my feats.
- I do not run Spiritefire becuase it is bugged. Instead of the promised 50% weapon damage it deals like 7% weapon damage / sec.
That 90 damage / sec do only achive that your Soul Puppet pulls everything in combat from any map you play. It was a real pain for me to use it. After a HE encounter i could not mount up because my Puppet did pull in everything, while i was questing my Puppet did pull in none quest releated mobs and prolonged the fights more... i really did hate it. It is too much pain for 90 damage per sec.
- Personally to me the uptime of the Dark Revelry is 100%. I am running Dark Enchantments in deffense slot, 400 Life Steal from Dread Ring, 400 Life Steal from Tyranny and my last 3 boons in Tyranny are 3% Life Steal, 10% Inc Heal and 5% Crit Severity.
As you say i am underestimate the uptime of that poor soul because i am always miss her somewhere. The lazy bum.
So you have heard my opinion. Even if you dont like i do hope that at least you give it a thought.