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(Klingon) Access to DS9 or WAR!!!

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I am speaking separately from the Klingon empire, however, I am prepared to go to battle to defend our right to access the space station that grants access to the Gama Quadrant.

You allow select Klingon and Gorn officers to access the promenade, as well as opening businesses in that area. Why is the empire denied access. It would help bring commerce to that almost dead station.

I, and my crew are prepared to go to battle, and will make continued attempts to cross the boarder into that space. I see no reason for this limit as it is cardassian / Terran empire controlled space, and we, like the Federation are not allies with either of those alliances.

It would be honorable for an official response to this request.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Aww the Klingons want access to the Gamma quadrant?

    Maybe you shouldn't have started invading everyone and maintained peace with the Federation...


    Oops!

    You can always try to take over the system and station. it worked out well for the Undine and the True Way :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The High Council will probably let us in for a new series of incidents and Deep Space 9 will be ours once we have massed an invasion fleet!

    Qapla' honourable warrior!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The presence of Klingon officers and stores on DS9 is a big boost to your argument. I'm sure thet can find a way to fit Klingon acces in somehow.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    STAR TREK NOVEL SPOILER~
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    Is Bajor a member of the Federation in STO as it is in the novels? I forget if that's one of the little loading screen tidbits or anything.

    If so, Deep Space 9 is a Federation Starbase as opposed to a station belonging to a neutral planet. That'd be your problem. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yea it's on the timeline on the STO site. Bajor is a FED member. Klingons on the station are similar to the ones joining Starfleet, they're some kind of independent Klingon or whatever.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I would welcome what the author has suggested, in part that at the current situation of the Klingons it is shallow and the territory is limited in which the Klingons have been given this small area which makes no sense in terms of the borders.

    My person opinion, the storyline of the Klingon side should be ended and made apart of the federation as we will be given much more in relationship to an enemy that we have seen through the latest episode.

    Other than that, Klingon still are lacking in many areas as due to the focus and favoritism of the importance that this game has needed, instead they have basically done alot of fluff while giving the community a little here and there, but again nothing of substance that is worth what we should have seen in STO at this point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think what might be a better solution is to give Klingons their own captured Nor in souther Cardassian space. Or a time travel mission.

    Or, y'know, end the war.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maybe if they sign up to become the Iconians' new b- lackeys, they'll give them a ride over to Dominion country.

    Might be safer to just surrender to the Federation though.

    We'll soon be in need of some able bodied workers for the mines, when this whole holographic rights thing hits the fan, so it works out for everyone.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Let the Klingons hang around Empok Nor instead, DS9 is Starfleet territory! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Maybe DS9 could be made into 'neutral' diplomatic territory (something Worf and co. hash out?), given its major trade routes and access to the Gamma quadrant (and the whole Dominion invasion thing) it could be deemed too important for just one faction to control it.

    Hell, make a featured series about it where we have to bring together the Feds, Klingons, Romulans and Alpha quad Dominion together on this single point to stop some big baddies coming through the wormhole again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Brigadoom wrote:
    Maybe DS9 could be made into 'neutral' diplomatic territory (something Worf and co. hash out?), given its major trade routes and access to the Gamma quadrant (and the whole Dominion invasion thing) it could be deemed too important for just one faction to control it.

    Hell, make a featured series about it where we have to bring together the Feds, Klingons, Romulans and Alpha quad Dominion together on this single point to stop some big baddies coming through the wormhole again.

    You may have a point, especially since Dstahl seemed to like the idea of making the Gamma Quadrant into an exploration cluster.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You may have a point, especially since Dstahl seemed to like the idea of making the Gamma Quadrant into an exploration cluster.

    If, for example, to secure the Klingons cooperation against a common enemy from the Gamma quadrant, DS9 had to accept a KDF garrison somewhere on the station, the tensions and interactions that take place there could be a springboard for a lot of interesting stuff.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Alexraptor wrote: »
    Let the Klingons hang around Empok Nor instead, DS9 is Starfleet territory! :D
    We'll just get our own abandoned Cardassian space station! With blackjack! And hookers!

    ...In fact, forget the space station!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If, for example, to secure the Klingons cooperation against a common enemy from the Gamma quadrant, DS9 had to accept a KDF garrison somewhere on the station, the tensions and interactions that take place there could be a springboard for a lot of interesting stuff.

    STO could have its own In The Pale Moonlight :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'll agree with the OP even though i'm with the Federation/Terran Empire as it makes sence to have them there since their merchants are there anyway......lol in Kirks time we had them in K7 ,just don't call the Enterprise a Garbage Scow Laddy!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Brigadoom wrote:
    Maybe DS9 could be made into 'neutral' diplomatic territory (something Worf and co. hash out?), given its major trade routes and access to the Gamma quadrant (and the whole Dominion invasion thing) it could be deemed too important for just one faction to control it.

    Hell, make a featured series about it where we have to bring together the Feds, Klingons, Romulans and Alpha quad Dominion together on this single point to stop some big baddies coming through the wormhole again.

    Wouldn't even have to do that to give the Klingons access to the Gamma Quadrant. As is, Klingons fly through Federation space to get to the Deferi Sector.

    What would make life interesting is turning the area into a war-zone that both factions are fighting over for dominance of the wormhole for those lucrative trade opportunities. Hey Cryptic, you seein' this?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wouldn't even have to do that to give the Klingons access to the Gamma Quadrant. As is, Klingons fly through Federation space to get to the Deferi Sector.

    What would make life interesting is turning the area into a war-zone that both factions are fighting over for dominance of the wormhole for those lucrative trade opportunities. Hey Cryptic, you seein' this?

    Wow. That's depressing.

    On another note, what if the Prophets said the Klingons would be necessary and the Bajorans insisted on honoring that request?

    I could maybe even see Starfleet giving it some weight if Sisko made the request and Avery Brooks has allowed his likeness to be used in games he wasn't interested in participating in. (And was even the sole DS9 cast member to be recast for it.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Brigadoom wrote:
    Maybe DS9 could be made into 'neutral' diplomatic territory (something Worf and co. hash out?), given its major trade routes and access to the Gamma quadrant...

    Because when an ally betrays you, starts conquering your neighbours, and goes to war with you, killing many of your people, you so obviously want to help them out by giving them access to trade routes, strategic sites and lines of transportation. You also so totally want to trust them, team with them, and allow the higher ups in their military organization access to your bases and resources. Nothing bad could come from that. After all, it's not like the people who just stabbed you in the back would ever stab you in the b... oh wait a minute...

    Oh, and "access to DS9 or war" is a little redundant. The KDF can declare double war all they want, even double dog war no backsies! and it really basically just amounts to nothing. After you declare it the first time it's not exactly an effective threat... :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wow. That's depressing.

    On another note, what if the Prophets said the Klingons would be necessary and the Bajorans insisted on honoring that request?

    I could maybe even see Starfleet giving it some weight if Sisko made the request and Avery Brooks has allowed his likeness to be used in games he wasn't interested in participating in. (And was even the sole DS9 cast member to be recast for it.)

    Which part? Cause getting more interaction between both factions with a war going on doesn't strike me as depressing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Playing my scenario out a bit...

    Maybe Sisko could make the request to give the Klingons safe passage to the Gamma Quadrant and a place aboard the station.

    Kurland defies the orders and stages a mutiny because of some terrible thing he suffered at the Klingons' hands. (People really wanted a Starfleet splinter faction as an enemy in that poll.)

    We run a mission with Worf and Admiral Ezri Dax to retake the station from Kurland's control.

    After completing this mission, players get redirected to a different copy of the ops room with Worf and Dax overseeing the station. The rest of the station remains untouched except for the addition of more Klingons. Kurland's missions get reassigned to a more neutral NPC and the remastered version of the training exercises mission has Ezri commanding the Defiant..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Which part? Cause getting more interaction between both factions with a war going on doesn't strike me as depressing.

    DS9 being a warzone strikes me as depressing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DS9 being a warzone strikes me as depressing.

    Further explanation is requested on your train of thought.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Further explanation is requested on your train of thought.

    DS9 feels like home when I'm there. I'd be pretty depressed to see people tearing apart my home.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DS9 feels like home when I'm there. I'd be pretty depressed to see people tearing apart my home.

    Well, such is war :D Think of how much harder you'll fight to take it back!

    I'm not sure how much more Klingon-Federation cease fire I can handle myself, with DS9 also becoming a neutral harbor when it's a Federation station. Having Klingon ships slip by all our patrols into parts of space on the other side of Federation space. I don't want to derail this into another "END THE WAR" thread, but the amount of disregard for that particular story element on the part of Cryptic makes it difficult to take much of the lore they've created into account. Some clear direction from Cryptic would be nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DS9 feels like home when I'm there. I'd be pretty depressed to see people tearing apart my home.

    Drozana Station is situated in the middle of a war zone, but it remains a neutral stopover for both Federation and KDF personnel.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Destinii wrote:
    Drozana Station is situated in the middle of a war zone, but it remains a neutral stopover for both Federation and KDF personnel.

    It's privately owned and operated by the Ferengi though, and declared as a neutral station by them.

    DS9 is a Federation station. Having klingons there is a half step from Feds beaming down to Qo'noS.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The Devs have mentioned wanting to do an FE involving DS9 and giving it a makeover.

    I wouldn't be shocked if they did something like this as part of the FE.

    I'm not really for or against it, I like it as Fed only, but I wouldn't care if it goes to both sides.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The Devs have mentioned wanting to do an FE involving DS9 and giving it a makeover.

    I wouldn't be shocked if they did something like this as part of the FE.

    I'm not really for or against it, I like it as Fed only, but I wouldn't care if it goes to both sides.

    Yes, I suspect that is when it'll be opened up to the KDF.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    DS9 being a warzone strikes me as depressing.

    Wasn't that about half of the last three seasons of that series?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Admiral Ezri Dax
    I just can't picture this.

    Hell, I don't think even Ezri could picture that.
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