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I'm a star fleet officer weird is part off the job ant Katy said once.
Well to be true I lost the connection here.....

Klingon's :

Klingon's and Federation are at war well not completely because they work to gather in Borg territory.
With the breen they keep a distance from each other .
So are they at war or is there some sort off truce going on. Like if you fire at me I'll fight back.

Romulans :

Their empire was already chaos with the destruction of their home world .
But there is not a cease fire here every mission I play I fight them.
Just could be me but my captain is an diplomatic men so .
I thought federation was about first we talk then we try to talk again, And if that really doest help we destroy you or it or what ever.

Cardesians :

Well after the war they where plunged in chaos....
Some are good some are bad like the true way.
But instead of flying cardies there are an lot mirror feds there.
So even after closing that damn portal there where a lot mirror feds.
And as even as I fight there I think why am I fighting Mirror Feds while I should go after the True Way.
Doesn't make sense to me.

It's all kind off weird do .
But what I also don't understand why there are factions off Klingon's in the Sirius Sector and if you are a Klingon you can't go there . I find that strange because from what I have learned from star trek universe.
If there is war you can cross borders . Except if you have an truce going on where is stated that no faction will cross each others border.



For the Future :

1. I hope Cryptic will put in diploma-tie into both races .
2. When you solve a fight diplomatic you will earn more XP then when you fight .
3. Shifting ground map like romulans siege a planet and you have to take it back or someone else.
4. Take over an Space station or something else.
5. As an fleet admiral you can wage war or make peace.
6. More Bridge interaction and spoken sound would be nice LESS Reading.
7. If needed bigger away teams and contact with team members .

Contact With team Members Description :

Like in Star Trek Hidden Evil where you can contact everyone for guidance if needed.
Also something where you can contact Quin to ask for support and on Klingon side that would be J'Pok .
And when you do there goes an timer when they arrive to your location . And don't leave until the mission is complete.


8. When you do make an successful first contact they get automatically a place on the map and if needed you have to give them support or supplies.
9. Cargo missions all these Klingon worlds and Federation worlds need supplies .
10. I hope they going to add Gamma and Delta Quadrant in chart with the species there.
11. PLEASE do not let the romulans make an alliance with Klingon's just because they drink each other blood. Well known true all games and series.
12. END


Greetz Cooter :eek:
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Question :

    Why is everyone want to play Romulans ?
    I rather choose the Cadesian or more cool to Be Borg .
    Here that nice soft voice off the borg queen like in Armada 2 ......
    Men I had shiffers all over me so calm so sexy WHAH.....

    I rahter be in the next three Species :

    1. Borg :

    Borg is my first choiche because its simpel asiulate as much species as you can.
    Asimulate data, transwarp to annywhere, Asimulate entire worlds how cool is that.

    2. Cardesian :

    Still have an homeworld to go to and you realy can be pain in **** but for the federation and I like the ships.


    3. Reman

    Maybe not allied with annyone and noting to call home yet but they allready had a hell off a story to tell ....
    And they are just cool to play with I think !!!

    Those are my species I like to go on first off all they all have a long storyline.
    Their a Strong power even in 2409 they are strong.
    And they have all three cool ships.

    "I'm a borg and I'm looking for my matrix witch one is mine " Hahahaha

    Greets Jetal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For what it's worth 99% of the KDF WANTS to be at war with the Federation we just are not really allowed to be. Every time we get ready to launch a new offensive and cross over into Federation territory we run into a giant invisible wall that halts all attempts to advance. It....is....stange.....almost like we are living in a box.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If they implemented Borg, it shouldnt be like a real faction but more like Monster Play as done in LotRO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    MajorFury wrote: »
    For what it's worth 99% of the KDF WANTS to be at war with the Federation we just are not really allowed to be. Every time we get ready to launch a new offensive and cross over into Federation territory we run into a giant invisible wall that halts all attempts to advance. It....is....stange.....almost like we are living in a box.

    Exactly, but our "88%#POOA" betters tell us we are wrong. So its a cage not a box.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    they should never implement the Borg because you cant be a Borg individual and play the game how you want to play it. to play it how you want to play it would ruin the Borg as they are not the unstoppable hive mind that they should be
    As for the who are we at war thing. Its complicated
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Easy, Anyone with a Green ship, or who has majority Green in their ship architecture (Think about it, in this universe Green = Baddies).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It's not really complicated but like the Klingon faction is getting tired off getting no xp and PVE.....
    As Borg you would get bored off assimilating worlds all the time....
    Speaking of the Borg when the collective is going maintenance because it's getting out off hand ......
    They can assimilate you from 500 meters and they send in drones like crazy .
    Before you know there are standing over 30 Borg around you all try to kill you .

    Little weird wish cryptic patch that thing even the fleet action is sometimes undo able .
    Last time we had over 45 Borg on a map with us 5 captains... I know we are good soldiers but that is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.....

    Greets Jetal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Cooter1978 wrote:
    It's not really complicated but like the Klingon faction is getting tired off getting no xp and PVE.....
    As Borg you would get bored off assimilating worlds all the time....
    Speaking of the Borg when the collective is going maintenance because it's getting out off hand ......
    They can assimilate you from 500 meters and they send in drones like crazy .
    Before you know there are standing over 30 Borg around you all try to kill you .

    Little weird wish cryptic patch that thing even the fleet action is sometimes undo able .
    Last time we had over 45 Borg on a map with us 5 captains... I know we are good soldiers but that is ridiculous as far as I'm concerned.....

    Greets Jetal

    god you youngens come in to Starfleet and expect nothing but glamour and girls like some movie or something. did you really thing fighting the Borg was going to be easy. people die son, well they dont quite die they get turned into half robotic zombies. either way it aint easy boy :D
    you are right sometimes it can get a bit out of hand. i dont think the borg should be able to shoot assimilation tubes at you from 10 meters away. the way i thought they worked was via and intravenous rout which is why they got so close to do it and would also match up with what was said in voyager. i dont care who you are, you cant get IV access by shooting someone its bloody hard il tell you that
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    CapTrott wrote: »
    If they implemented Borg, it shouldnt be like a real faction but more like Monster Play as done in LotRO.

    Heck... Hindsight being 20/20, I think they should have taken the effort put into Klingons and made a Borg monster play... and saved Klingons for later, when they could be more fleshed out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    3. Shifting ground map like romulans siege a planet and you have to take it back or someone else.

    Romulans do not wage war over Territory that is not theirs to begin with, this has always been one of the strange things about them as none of their wars have been under the flag of conquest. The only conquest they seem to do is that of some minor species within their own controlled areas, but that is just an guess.

    As for your confussion that is good as there is no clear enemy, everyone is fighting everyone and no one really knows what is going on, just the way the Iconians want things to be when they return in force.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Agreed in some ways, But they first have to fix that skill meter with the Klingon's .
    I did with a friend in one room and two computers make an stride I'm a Fed he was an KDF Warrior.
    With leveling for 2 weeks he is now after two weeks still an commander and I'm a VA leveled in all ways .
    And he is Commander lvl 9 . Later on we tried it again but this time he had an 8 our skill bonus again in 2 weeks. When I became VA he was an Lieutenant General or something and he was sick to his stomach off the replays he had to do.
    So something ain't right true .... ????

    And then their is Borg ..... !!!!

    I agree with the doc they should stop with the shooting thing and apply Assimilation into the game .
    And after that is happened they should make it like your crew if they survive they make an rescue attempt .
    But now you are the commander for now leading the away team to save the captain. something like that would be great.....

    Further more ......

    I would like to play Cardessian if the Borg is to complicated for them.....
    Why the have a history to and most important they have an HOME to go to .
    I mean with romulans I'm not sure just like Sthall said what you going to call home .....
    And what friends do they have not Manny left i suppose .

    And there is also the ferengi ????
    Where on earth is ferenginar the ferengi home world you know I don't ......
    Not in STO anyway and so i can go on and on about species ....

    Well fill in what you like but if I wanted to play a bad guy I really like to be Borg in all ways .
    Bringing species closer to perfection .
    And a mission about the OMEGA Particle would be very nice .

    Greets Jetal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The borg do not conquer they seek perfection !!! :o

    Liandras wrote:
    Romulans do not wage war over Territory that is not theirs to begin with, this has always been one of the strange things about them as none of their wars have been under the flag of conquest. The only conquest they seem to do is that of some minor species within their own controlled areas, but that is just an guess.

    As for your confussion that is good as there is no clear enemy, everyone is fighting everyone and no one really knows what is going on, just the way the Iconians want things to be when they return in force.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    CapTrott wrote: »
    If they implemented Borg, it shouldnt be like a real faction but more like Monster Play as done in LotRO.
    Oh, dear...:( exactly what we need... yet another dumb choice for clouded fanboys.

    Come on people, what is all about with you and the borg fixation? In fantasy games everyone who wants to be pseudokewl would totally play Vampires, and in SciFi everyone want to play the cyberguys. I mean, come on! What's the fun in it playing with "godmode"? I have the feeling it's not about having a great race and playing a great immersed game but showing only the power.

    Why shouldn't we ever play borg? - This race is the ultimate threat in Star Trek. They supose to be the baddies "period". Beside this the borg have a hive consiciousness, so it make every drone impossible to act autonome. As long as the player can't play a borg queen, selfconsiciousness is not a point of discusion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Are you serious ? where you stuck after TV series men Common !
    In armada 2 you are a Cmdr drone working for the queen ..
    And with the TV series on several occasions there where Borg that where independent.
    So and wasn't picard a drone with a mind on his own..... Hello get behind your DVD Player and start looking Star Trek Films after that start playing games where Borg is in the game ....
    Good Riddance .....

    Greets Jetal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Humpalumpa wrote:
    borg? - This race is the ultimate threat in Star Trek.

    a Dev ones told me "maybe the Borg aren't the biggest thread in the galaxy anymore" ... and was kinda hinting at the Iconians.

    Doesn't mean that i agree, i still want my Wolf 359 2409-Style Fleetaction.
    It's silly that the Crystaline Entity fills that place in this game but we don't have one with a Big Bad A$$ Experimental Uber Borg Cube...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Z3R0B4NG wrote: »
    a Dev ones told me "maybe the Borg aren't the biggest thread in the galaxy anymore" ... and was kinda hinting at the Iconians.

    Doesn't mean that i agree, i still want my Wolf 359 2409-Style Fleetaction.
    It's silly that the Crystaline Entity fills that place in this game but we don't have one with a Big Bad A$$ Experimental Uber Borg Cube...


    Not sure good budy ....
    But I would like wolf 359 fleet action more than that entity thing.
    I mean it's just stupid that thing is unbeatable .....
    Annyway I think the borg could be some heavy oponent for the Iconians .
    But I folowed the Iconians quiet a while can't say I like it to much there pretty powerfull.
    Maybe they let us make a deal with the borg to defeat the Iconians ..... Like in ST Voyager - Scorpion or like Armada 2 where Picard makes a deal with the queen.....

    To bad they are not on the foundry yet otherwise I could expiriment with it a little !!!

    We are the borg we seek perfection and will not conquer ..... !!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Ok if you don't want a Borg faction witch faction do you want....
    I read some posts and there was a career officer say about civilians ....
    I kinda liked that idea to being a freighter captain doing freights or get your own colony like simcity .
    I would like to see that give them some variation in the game .
    Or being a star fleet engineer and doing planet projects or science and doing discovery's like thinking about planet shielding and such .

    But we where talking about factions I want to turn to this....
    Listen.... What feature would be nice should every playable faction have an story about their home ???
    Like a Vulcan should have a story on Vulcan .
    a Bajoran should have a mission about Bajor...

    You know I would like to see the Delta Quadrant and then get lost like Jane way did and find your way back with all new dangerous missions not all friendly and not all enemy .
    Far as I know space is very big I wish I could recreate the voyager missions would be awesome don't you think... OK their just loose idea's .....

    Greets Jetal

    Be creative let's give it to the community , Your a star fleet officer weird is part off the Job .....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    " Who is my enemy exactly ??? " You are your own worst enemy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    You are your own nightmare...... DUH
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Cooter1978 wrote:
    You are your own nightmare...... DUH

    It is "Duh, Winning!" lol...my apologies...my above reply was a failed attempt at levity.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I like the mass confusion going on in the game, it creates a sense of desperation in the galaxy. A need to do things men in normal times would never consider. People want this game to be like the movies and tv shows, which to a point I do too. But Ive played my share of MMOs and have accepted the fact a true Star Trek game that immerses, in the sense most posters on these forums beg for, just isnt logical.

    While I think the Devs need to start pulling those storylines across the two quadrants together to make a little more sense in a progression sense. The war with the Klingons, The Cold war with the Romulans and the multiple smaller factions in their realm, The war on Terrorism in Cardassian Space, the conflict with the Terran Empire, the Breen Incursions the Borg and Undine Incursions...Finally someone has found the weak spots of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants Super Powers and are pushing their agenda on them.

    While the War with the Klingons needs flushing out, It still makes sense on some base level. The Klingons are stubborn and while "honorable" they still want to live up to what Kahless taught them. Even if the Federation has finally come around to accept the Undine threat. The Klingons (after losing many great warriors to the Federation-Klingon War) may feel its too little, too late. That they have made too many sacrifices and gains to warrant a truce outside of Deferi and Gamma Orionis Sectors. Think about it, the Klingons want to expand, so theyve moved into Deferi and Gamma Orionis looking for new territory, Only to find a greater threat then just their typical Federation enemies..The Breen (who devestated their enemies during the Dominion War), The Borg (who can swat entire fleets with one cube) The Undine (ships that sometimes take entire Task Forces to deal with). Which would make a truce with the Federation in those Sectors an obvious choice.

    To me this whole game needs alot of storyline love. But it still makes more sense then ending the war....Infact I would bet the majority of people playing and not posting on these forums would cry for the Devs to start the war back up if we were to ever convince them to end it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Cooter... Seriously, I don't even know why I tried so hard to read this post. Your grasp on the English language is worse than my toddler's. I really hope for your sake, that English is not your first language because if it is, you have butchered it and should have been riding the Special Ed bus.

    Learn the language before you start posting on English Forums. PUHLEEZE!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Cooter... Seriously, I don't even know why I tried so hard to read this post. Your grasp on the English language is worse than my toddler's. I really hope for your sake, that English is not your first language because if it is, you have butchered it and should have been riding the Special Ed bus.

    Learn the language before you start posting on English Forums. PUHLEEZE!

    My English is not my first language sorry.....
    Second I'm Dutch....
    And if you don't like the writing why respond ???
    But everybody have the right to post I'm trying as good as I possible can to right in your forsaken language.

    Thank you Greets Cooter

    At least I'm trying......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Cooter1978 wrote:
    Are you serious ? where you stuck after TV series men Common !
    In armada 2 you are a Cmdr drone working for the queen ..
    And with the TV series on several occasions there where Borg that where independent.
    So and wasn't picard a drone with a mind on his own..... Hello get behind your DVD Player and start looking Star Trek Films after that start playing games where Borg is in the game ....
    Good Riddance .....

    Greets Jetal
    All the autonome borg drones were never willing to return to the hive consciousness. None of them!
    Picard was no drone at all! Locutus was a dedicated "mate" of the borg queen. He was still integrated into the hive nad had no own will and no decisions to take. He was just a fugurehead to make the assimilation easier fot the borg and the humans.

    In ST Armada you played no individuum at all! At best the borg "commander" was just a consciousness node from the cube with the queen. Borg hve do not act autonmous. That is something fanboys wishes, but it ain't right.

    Dear Cooter, you shoud get past that idea. I am not a close-minded series fan at all, I only see the borg hive as that wat it really is. Bee's dont work otherwise and no bee is real autonome, still could work for her own. That is how the borg work.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I like the chaos but the iconians are starting to remind me of the shadows from babylon 5.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I like the chaos but the iconians are starting to remind me of the shadows from babylon 5.

    Yes, but without the charm and personality. Nobody we've seen so far working to the Iconians can hold a candle to Mr. Morden.

    (I do remember commenting to my guild during the beta: I'm shooting everything I encounter, and we're at war with everyone. I'm not sure it's proper Star Trek, but this would make an AWESOME Babylon 5 MMO.)

    To the OP, I suggest reading up more on the Borg. I could write pages on what made them so effective as villains, and why adding an individual like the Queen undercut that. The Borg do not have heroes. The Borg do not have individuals. To suddenly have hundreds or thousands of players representing unique Borg captains in game would make a mockery of the very concept of the Borg.

    Plus, from a gameplay perspective, many of the staples of MMO gameplay, crafting, individual customization, grinding badges or emblems, auction houses, MAKE NO SENSE for the Borg. Adding all that only subtracts from the Borg as adversaries.

    So, who's your enemy? Whomever is shooting at you this week. :p

    That's the beauty of Trek. You don't need permanent villians to tell good stories in Trek. It's far more interesting to watch alliances shift, motivations change, and characters evolve. Much like they did in Babylon 5. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Praxis23 wrote:
    Yes, but without the charm and personality. Nobody we've seen so far working to the Iconians can hold a candle to Mr. Morden.

    (I do remember commenting to my guild during the beta: I'm shooting everything I encounter, and we're at war with everyone. I'm not sure it's proper Star Trek, but this would make an AWESOME Babylon 5 MMO.)

    To the OP, I suggest reading up more on the Borg. I could write pages on what made them so effective as villains, and why adding an individual like the Queen undercut that. The Borg do not have heroes. The Borg do not have individuals. To suddenly have hundreds or thousands of players representing unique Borg captains in game would make a mockery of the very concept of the Borg.

    Plus, from a gameplay perspective, many of the staples of MMO gameplay, crafting, individual customization, grinding badges or emblems, auction houses, MAKE NO SENSE for the Borg. Adding all that only subtracts from the Borg as adversaries.

    So, who's your enemy? Whomever is shooting at you this week. :p

    That's the beauty of Trek. You don't need permanent villians to tell good stories in Trek. It's far more interesting to watch alliances shift, motivations change, and characters evolve. Much like they did in Babylon 5. :)


    Its a shame babylon 5 never recieved much love game wise.. Most indie titles that were made were lack lusters.

    I do agree though the Iconians lack the charm of the Mr Morden or even Londo the centauri puppet...
    You make some good points I agree with you though the whole A to A aspect of trek episodes was especially if you missed an episode I found with babylon 5 if you missed one episode you were sort of screwed as to what was going on. Since it had an A B C formula. Also trek has interesting villians.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Praxis23 wrote:
    Yes, but without the charm and personality. Nobody we've seen so far working to the Iconians can hold a candle to Mr. Morden.

    (I do remember commenting to my guild during the beta: I'm shooting everything I encounter, and we're at war with everyone. I'm not sure it's proper Star Trek, but this would make an AWESOME Babylon 5 MMO.)

    To the OP, I suggest reading up more on the Borg. I could write pages on what made them so effective as villains, and why adding an individual like the Queen undercut that. The Borg do not have heroes. The Borg do not have individuals. To suddenly have hundreds or thousands of players representing unique Borg captains in game would make a mockery of the very concept of the Borg.

    Plus, from a gameplay perspective, many of the staples of MMO gameplay, crafting, individual customization, grinding badges or emblems, auction houses, MAKE NO SENSE for the Borg. Adding all that only subtracts from the Borg as adversaries.

    So, who's your enemy? Whomever is shooting at you this week. :p

    That's the beauty of Trek. You don't need permanent villians to tell good stories in Trek. It's far more interesting to watch alliances shift, motivations change, and characters evolve. Much like they did in Babylon 5. :)

    Oh also I forgot to mention id love the organians to appear as an emeny in one of the featured episodes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Before we even step off further.....

    Let's make a enemy list for the players :

    Federation's Enemys are :

    1. Klingons and every Species that houses there
    2. Borg
    3. Cadesians ( True Way )
    4. Breen
    5. Romulans
    6. Tall Shiar
    7. Hirpgen
    8. Undine ( Species 8472 )
    9. Dominion
    10. Miror Space
    11 . And smaller factions


    Klingon's Enemy's are :

    1. Federation
    2. Cardesian ( True Way )
    3. Borg
    4. Romulans
    5. Tal Shiar
    6. Hirogen
    7. Undine ( Species 9472 )
    8. Dominion
    9. Smaller powers.


    Federation :

    Ensign : Why does anny new species we meet trying to kill us ?

    Captain : We are starfleet officers weird is part of the job !

    Klingons :

    Ensign : Why does anny new species we meet trying to kill us ?

    Captain : It's a glorius day to die is it not !!!


    Greets Jetal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Why not open up some fed content ???

    Why not open up some federation content ????
    I would like to sugest that for the klingons it should be posible to fight romulans because there opsesion with borg tech should make them a great threat to the empire !!!
    After Cardesians move into teritory they also become a treat to the empire as well.

    I mean I played Federation and everywhere where I did Exploration missions I encounter Klingons but as a klingon where boxt in, Like there is a big wall every where !!
    That you won't dear to go allone to sirius sector I understand but the rest off space should be open to the klingons as well. Ok have fun


    Greets Cooter
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