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Using Utopia Planitia to craft/upgrade ships
    Craft/Upgrade older T1-T5 ships to T6 standards (slots, hulls, weapons) (T2 standard cruiser with my old colors and variant parts would be nice) and take up no new slots
    Craft/Upgrade older T1-T5 ships to T6 (Nimbus-class would look awsome as a Cruiser)
    MORE Universal slots or some way to change BO slots (Sci Ship with Eng/Sci/Sci/Tac/Eng)
    Read my lips. No more Ensign slots (Mostly Tac :mad:)
    Sydney-class (USS Jenolan) as shuttle

Utopia Planitia is located on Mars so it would be a short time from ESD via ship, or access via shuttle-based shuttle on ESD or direct access on when entering Sol system by selecting "Enter Utopia Planitia" instead of "Enter Space Dock"
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    /signed

    I am all for upgrading Tier 1-5 ships to Tier 6.

    My main concern for me right now is that I would loose my Sovereign-class and that is unacceptable. That would pretty much be game breaking/stopping for me.

    I have maxed out crafting and having the ability to use crafting in order to upgrade my ships would be awesome. It would also be cool if you could update other players ships if they are not high enough in crafting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yes, upgrades of existing T1-5 are > than new ships.

    Nothing against having both, but I like my fleet Escort.
    I will not condone any course of action that forces me into upgrading to continue sustaining combat viability.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Not to mention we are running out of canon ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Typhoon Typhoon Typhoon Typhoon !!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Typhoon Typhoon Typhoon Typhoon !!!!!

    What is a Typhoon?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bracknell wrote:
    What is a Typhoon?

    Its the Cruiser with the 2 nacelles in either pylon... (they hang around in battle group omega... and the terran empire love em - ISS Molly)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Its the Cruiser with the 2 nacelles in either pylon... (they hang around in battle group omega... and the terran empire love em - ISS Molly)

    Cool. Thanks.

    I remember the ISS Molly. Tough ship to take out when you are still a Captain and flying the unmovable Galaxy-Class. Got blown to bits and pieces by her so many times that I almost wanted to ragequit back in Februarly last year. :D

    Want to fly one of those.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bracknell wrote:
    Cool. Thanks.

    I remember the ISS Molly. Tough ship to take out when you are still a Captain and flying the unmovable Galaxy-Class. Got blown to bits and pieces by her so many times that I almost wanted to ragequit back in Februarly last year. :D

    Want to fly one of those.

    uhmm if you want to see the model.. load up the foundry (tribble) make a space make and spawn in a Federation Battleship contact. Or say "almighty one can you get some screenshots for me?" :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    How about tier 6 is all cryptic original ships for this time frame.. right now we flying around in museum relics.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'm not really looking forward to T6 ships at all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    tier 6 will have to come with a lot of pve mission as well for the new levels i hope ... its just not ships but levels as well... all this will take a lot of work..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yup, /signed

    When Tier six is added this is what I want. It should take a LOT to craft a Miranda to that level though. At least more then it would, say, a Defiant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I honestly T6 will not be anymore powerful then T5. I think they do have plans to make T1-4 more on par with T5s. I think T6 will simply be an unlock to access new ship designs and craftable ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Signed.

    Getting to get my custom Cruiser back at Fleet Admiral would be great, as well as keeping the Galaxy one of my alts is working towards, plus this way guys who get the T5 Excel and GalaxyX are less likely to get screwed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For T6 I'd like to see customizable looks based on ship class. For example, if the T6 ship you want is a cruiser, then you can pick the parts from all cruisers, Galaxy nacelles, Stargazer pylons, Sovereign Saucer, etc. It would get some additional hull stats.

    For T7 I'd like to see customizable looks based on all ship classes. you choose a class to base your stats on but then are able to pick pieces from all available ships regardless of class. Akira nacelles on a Excelsior hull with a intrepid saucer. Once again the hull stats would improve.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Achilles class long range tactical cruiser.

    That is what I want, turn rate of a RSV fire power of an Advanced escort, tank of an assault cruiser.

    Can provide a spec and information sheet longer than they would like :) (was at least 20 pages, but forgot exact count)



    Granted maybe a bit to much asked, but God I love that ship so much.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think Tier 6 should be a choice between both Refit ships and newly designed ships by Cryptic. The more ships, the merrier.;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    /not signed

    It'll be a cold day in hell when I look upon a T1-T3 ship with T6 standards.


    I'll only aprove T4-T5 ships......with an Akira refit thrown in too :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think at T-6 captains should be able to fly whatever ship they want. This is an MMO, and cryptic prides themselves of customization. What better way to customize than to allow whatever ship a captain wants to fly be a T-6.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    /not signed

    I'll only aprove T4-T5 ships......with an Akira refit thrown in too :p

    You know, that might be an interesting comprimise.

    A ship's class can be manually retrofitted to Teir +1, +2 at the most.

    And you can choose how it improves to fill out the new stats. (BO positions, Console arrangement, etc.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I think that we need to A: Introduce a whole new set of T6 ships, in a sort of Tactical role. I don't mean Tactical as in Tactical Officers, I mean these new ships would be either heavy hitters on both sides, or mainly stealth ships minus the Cloak.

    Or we could do this: Fed side would get something along the lines of a Soverign with more Tac slots, a Sci ship with more Eng. slots, adn an Dervish or Prommie with more Sci slots.

    Another option is to let players tweak their ships little by little- Say, being able to use Particle Traces (3 of a kind AT LEAST) to upgrade the stats on your ship. Damage Resistance, Turn Rate, Inertia Modifier, and Flight Speed would be the main beneficiaries of such modifications, with Damage and Sheild and Hull strength getting minor tweaks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If a Miranda becomes a Tier 6 ship, this game would officially become absurd. A ship design that is over a hundred years old becoming a flagship for a taskforce?

    No.

    Keep in mind that gameplay at the Fleet Admiral level will include command of pets in tactical-style gameplay vis a vis Rainbow Six, from my interpretation of dstahl. Therefore, having an Akira-R in the mix would make sense.

    Most of the appropriate ships are obtainable before you hit that level, though. The Galaxy, Sovereign, etc. would be ideal flagships. That leaves me to believe that the Enterprise-F class ship might be one of the T6 ships to be unveiled in, what, a year?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    tarjan wrote: »
    How about tier 6 is all cryptic original ships for this time frame.. right now we flying around in museum relics.

    T6 will include ship designs from the enterprise contest.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I would mind seeing a few designs like these;

    Pic 1

    Pic 2

    Pic 3

    Pic 4

    Pic 5

    I also would love to see some Cryptic originals for Tier 6 and beyond.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OtakuboyT wrote: »
      Read my lips. No more Ensign slots (Mostly Tac :mad:)

    ....now that would be an idea, LESS abilities but more powerfull.
    No ensign at all, only Lt. +
    yeah... i could get behind that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    SP3CTREnyc wrote:
    If a Miranda becomes a Tier 6 ship, this game would officially become absurd. A ship design that is over a hundred years old becoming a flagship for a taskforce?

    No.

    Keep in mind that gameplay at the Fleet Admiral level will include command of pets in tactical-style gameplay vis a vis Rainbow Six, from my interpretation of dstahl. Therefore, having an Akira-R in the mix would make sense.

    Most of the appropriate ships are obtainable before you hit that level, though. The Galaxy, Sovereign, etc. would be ideal flagships. That leaves me to believe that the Enterprise-F class ship might be one of the T6 ships to be unveiled in, what, a year?

    Why? The Miranda fought against the Borg at 357 and against the Domnion. It is a ship in current service why would it not merit a T6 varient? I admit it is a short range ship and much softer then other ships but with the threats in the galaxy why would a ship currently in service not be retrofitted?

    The biggest issue I have with making all ships T6 is that people think they will all have the same stats. They won't! A constitution will not be a soviergn. A saber will not be a Prometheus. Hull, turn and crew will all be different but that does not mean the ship can't DO anything.

    Tiers should simply be unlock point...Congratulations you can now access ships from T2-5 but if you'd like your current vessel will level with you.

    Give them weapons boffs and consoles but leave all other stats as is. I don't believe smaller ships should have the weapons a huge cruiser does though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Tragamite wrote: »
    Tiers should simply be unlock point...Congratulations you can now access ships from T2-5 but if you'd like your current vessel will level with you.

    I do not see a Miranda "leveling" enough to be on par with a Sovereign or Prometheus. They just do not have the hull for standing up to Borg or Undine, even if they were to allow the stats to bump up a little.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The way things currently are, you can effectively "refit" a ship just by putting all mk XI items on it. Granted, you only have level 1 abilities, but Ive seen someone in a Nova team with someone in a Defiant in VA pvp and be absolutely deadly.

    If the hull stays the same, what's wrong with giving a low level ship more BO stations and consoles?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I do not see a Miranda "leveling" enough to be on par with a Sovereign or Prometheus. They just do not have the hull for standing up to Borg or Undine, even if they were to allow the stats to bump up a little.

    Agreed, thus it would be in your best interest to invest in a new ship. HOWEVER, don't force me to leave it if it is my favorite ship and the only thing I want to be captain of as long as I play STO. I don't speak for myself here but on behalf of those who can't...

    And I agree that it should not mesure up to a T5 (6) scaucer to saucer but I do believe that Starfleet would do its best to outfit her to put up a fight and I am sure they do drills against the Promo and Sauv to improve resorcefullness of the captains in this time of need.

    Many of us have taken on the challenge of seeing what we are capable of with a T1(2) with Mk X or XI gear against endgame obsticles. Being rescorcefull and tactful you find that the ship is capable!

    I would say it like this for the T1 starter vessels advancing to T5 is that they should only have "room" for 3/3 weapons. T2 Cruisers should be 4/2 at T5.

    I don't think thses vessels should in anyway "MATCH" a T5 but rather have modifications to make them comparable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I have mixed feelings on what a T6 ship should be and whether it should be a customizable version of an existing T5 ship, or something new.
    As far as something new goes, I think that a T6 should be cutting edge and represent the latest technology that is available. Most flag ships represent the latest and greatest ship a fleet has to offer. Therefore something new would fit that bill.
    On the other hand it's not uncommon for ships to be upgraded to the latest tech while still being a flag ship. The U.S.S. Iowa for example was upgraded with lots of new toys over the years before she was finally retired. Therefore a customizable re-fit of an existing T5 ship would also work. Something for example that llows you to choose how many console slots a ship has. For example a sov could have 3 tac 2 sci and 3 eng slots, or another player could choose 4 eng, 2 sci and 2 tac.
    Just my thoughts.
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