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Hey Devs, kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based

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As most people know, Klingons need more PvE content. However, as the Devs have stated before, they cant simply stop working on the Feds and just work on the Klingons. So how about they kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based, like a Gorn civil war? That gives Klingons more faction based PvE(that can be played at any level) and also provides content everyone can play since its a FE. Isnt this an obvious win/win?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As most people know, Klingons need more PvE content. However, as the Devs have stated before, they cant simply stop working on the Feds and just work on the Klingons. So how about they kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based, like a Gorn civil war? That gives Klingons more faction based PvE(that can be played at any level) and also provides content everyone can play since its a FE. Isnt this an obvious win/win?

    You are worth your Latinum. I approve of this idea.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Personally, I'm thinking that this will be the direction that they'll be going GN. With the Gorn revamp seemingly round the corner, I think it would make sense to make a Gorn centric FE...

    Of course people are also excited about the Tholians and now majorly hyped up for the Iconians thanks to the Romulan FEs... but I still think the Gorn FE makes the most logical sense. I suppose we'll just have to see.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    mykey1982 wrote: »
    You are worth your Latinum. I approve of this idea.

    The Nagus does have the lobes for successful ventures.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    An excellent idea Grand Nagus. :)

    Unfortunately, you know as well as I do that it'll never happen.

    *sigh* :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    agreed :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    An excellent idea Grand Nagus. :)

    Unfortunately, you know as well as I do that it'll never happen.

    *sigh* :(

    Any particular reason you think so?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Any particular reason you think so?
    A number of reasons, but mostly because of dstahl's childish rant about how we're a mere 12% of the player base, and he's "tired of hearing us constantly complaining about Klingons being ignored." And oh yeah throw in a little bit of his "if you don't like how I'm driving you can jump outta da car boy."

    As if being only 12% of the player base somehow makes it ok that they're going to deliberately break their word to their paying customers ("Two factions. Full PvE content.") I realize that nowdays it's only ignorant hicks like myself that get upset when people deliberately lie to me, but that's just how I am.

    They'll never make a Featured Episode that's Klingon based, and you know it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Great idea. The last FS, as much as I loved it, left alot to be desired when playing through the episodes as a Klingon. Aside from the intros and outros, everything was very much the same as the Fed side. I just didn't feel like a Klingon at all. I wouldn't mind seeing the tables turn somewhat, providing episodes that are available to all, but make more sense for Klingons.

    I don't think it's beyond the realm of possibility either, now that they've mentioned reworking Klingon progression, with their own tutorial and possibly new faction specific episodes throughout the leveling arc with season 4.

    I have a feeling that if/when the klingon faction gets a respectable amount of exclusive pve content, and a more motivating reason to PvP, or contribute to the cause via territory control neutral zones or the like, the Klingon faction will be in a far superior state and that 12% will grow dramatically.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Would be nice if they made the FE with the klinks the chain of quests that end the war. Klinks can still fight us without us being in a war, battle similations and wargames for instance. Then they could open up the PVE content of the feds to the klinks as well. Since they are remastering lots of quests they can simply add klink options to them.

    Outside of FvK pvp there really isnt a war anymore and with the iconians being added even the klingon empire would drop its fight with the federation against an enemy like them. No reason we cant have 2 factions that arent at war with one another, this would also allow Fed and klingons to work together in fleetactions and special taskforces.

    If every faction in the game had to be at war with one another to pvp etc, that would mean cardassian/romulan etc would all be against the feds at same time and feds would be boned if that happened.

    Make the FE about the uncovering the undine plot on the gorn homeworld and you can have all diff races involved. Undine, gorn, orion, klingons, iconian's since they instigated the undine in the first place, maybe even the romulan/reman and borg could be involved as im sure the romulans would be spying on them. Borg could show up and try to assimilate the undine/iconians to gain intell and tech to get an advantage in their war against the fed/klingon empire.

    Great way to make real progress in the game and showcase a lot of diff races in 1 series. Maybe make it longer then a standard 5 part FE to fit in a bigger story or have it a 2 part FE making it 10 weeks worth of content. End of which could be the iconians finally appearing in the alpha quadrant in force.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    its an idea but why would the feds help the kdf stop a civil war, if anything the feds would want to help the gorn away from the kdf and to the feds which would undermine the kdf faction as a whole as one of its factions would then be untrusted within the kdf.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As most people know, Klingons need more PvE content. However, as the Devs have stated before, they cant simply stop working on the Feds and just work on the Klingons. So how about they kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based, like a Gorn civil war? That gives Klingons more faction based PvE(that can be played at any level) and also provides content everyone can play since its a FE. Isnt this an obvious win/win?



    A great excuse to generate more Klingon content, ships and items available to both sides. Maybe they fly "mercenary" ships that could be req. by both sides.

    Imagine a rogue Klingon faction with ties to others beyond (insert plot thickener / story line gel here) who infiltrate and cause troubles. Like the KDF version of Fed-Maquis
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Sh1ngara wrote:
    its an idea but why would the feds help the kdf stop a civil war, if anything the feds would want to help the gorn away from the kdf and to the feds which would undermine the kdf faction as a whole as one of its factions would then be untrusted within the kdf.

    Hey look, you get it! And the FE wouldnt have to result in in an actual split between the KDF/Gorn, it could be a failed rebellion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    They'll never make a Featured Episode that's Klingon based, and you know it.

    Actually, I think they might. This would give them an opportunity to say "see, we're adding more content to the Klingons" and still be adding it to everyone else too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Actually, I think they might. This would give them an opportunity to say "see, we're adding more content to the Klingons" and still be adding it to everyone else too.

    PF is just blinded by his dislike of cryptic. i approve of this idea, and i find it involving for both factions with possible different outcomes...

    +1 GN.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    i already had an idea for that for the foundry.

    Basically takes the premise that someone on the gorn side has to be upset about being vassals to the klingons.
    That person would most likely be one whose pockets are lighter as a result.
    Say this gorn owned a dilithium mine on a moon and can't mine if because of the KDF/Gorn war.
    After the war, the klingons control the mine and don't recognize it as being his because he never mined it.
    That gorn stages a workers strike in the mine so that nobody can use it.
    Klingons want to resolve the issue peacefully to not create an illusion of them trying to violently put down a gorn uprising. The kdf sends you in to peacefully bring it to a conclusion.
    After some puzzles and combat you meet the gorn and successfully stop the standoff by giving into his demands.
    The klngons don't like the fact that you went in and basically gave him everything he wanted.

    Anyways, that ended episode 1, it continues as that gorn took the money and power that you gave him to finance a rebelling using kdf and Dominion mercenaries. The main jist of the story is that the rebel gorn is trying to get the alpha dominion to make a deal with the gamma dominion to help them overthrow the klingons and using the financies, try to create a way to bring the dominion fleet from the gamma quadrant using transwarp.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Actually, I think they might. This would give them an opportunity to say "see, we're adding more content to the Klingons" and still be adding it to everyone else too.

    I agree. Not to mention there are many directions they could take the overall STO story arc in by making Klingon oriented FEs. IMO some of the best modern Trek episodes were the ones that were Klingon-centric.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    PF is just blinded by his dislike of cryptic. i approve of this idea, and i find it involving for both factions with possible different outcomes...

    +1 GN.

    I would have to say you are correct regarding your statement of the aforementioned player. It does seem to sound that way. I approve of the idea as well, and find it interesting if they came out with different outcomes for the different factions....or at the very least the outcomes could have slightly varied interpretations by each side....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Having a Klingon-oriented Featured Series would help resolve some of the longstanding sentiments that Klingons are shoehorned into featured series, instead of agnostic in a wider respect.

    What about a KDF-oriented series with cross-faction teaming - wouldn't that go over well?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For this I'll give you all my Latinum.
    Excellent idea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    PF is just blinded by his dislike of cryptic. i approve of this idea, and i find it involving for both factions with possible different outcomes...

    +1 GN.

    Yep, seem so.

    My Main is looking forward to support the brave gorn in their struggle for freedom :p
    (My Gorn BO too)

    I guess such FE won't be the 4., but it maybe the 5. or 6. featured episode?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As most people know, Klingons need more PvE content. However, as the Devs have stated before, they cant simply stop working on the Feds and just work on the Klingons. So how about they kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based, like a Gorn civil war? That gives Klingons more faction based PvE(that can be played at any level) and also provides content everyone can play since its a FE. Isnt this an obvious win/win?

    I approve of this, more needs to be done to the Klingons...and soon. If Cryptic ever wants to get around to Romulans then they need to stop twiddling their thumbs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Actually, I think they might. This would give them an opportunity to say "see, we're adding more content to the Klingons" and still be adding it to everyone else too.
    I agree with you that they should do it, and for the exact reason that you said. I just don't believe that they will.

    I actually don't dislike Cryptic. The funny thing is that if you actually look at my post history you'll see that I'm defending their actions at least as often as I criticize them.

    But, maybe Sir James is right. I guess we'll see.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I agree with this idea, thing is though, they already said they were making a gorn series to show case the new gorn when they were released
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    sabredruid wrote: »
    I agree with this idea, thing is though, they already said they were making a gorn series to show case the new gorn when they were released

    I must have missed that... Link?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    As most people know, Klingons need more PvE content. However, as the Devs have stated before, they cant simply stop working on the Feds and just work on the Klingons. So how about they kill 2 birds with 1 stone and make the next FE series Klingon based, like a Gorn civil war? That gives Klingons more faction based PvE(that can be played at any level) and also provides content everyone can play since its a FE. Isnt this an obvious win/win?

    For a lot of klingon players (myself included) this wont really address the issue as they(/we) want specific content that is klingon-only in order to validate the faction as unique and worthwhile as opposed to Fed-lite with mirrored content. Folks want there to be specific reasons to play KDF, stuff you can't get on the other side of the fence.

    Regardless, it's already been suggested that there is some type of Gorn Weekly Series on the way and it could be the first released after the next season.

    In a thread about the Gorn revamp a Gorn series was brought up, and someone suggested that the best time for that would be after the revamp has launched. Dstahl's response was "You're on to something!"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    For a lot of klingon players (myself included) this wont really address the issue as they(/we) want specific content that is klingon-only in order to validate the faction as unique and worthwhile as opposed to Fed-lite with mirrored content. Folks want there to be specific reasons to play KDF, stuff you can't get on the other side of the fence.

    That is a very valid point. A Klingon specific FE or two could also help get more people interested in rolling a Klingon character.

    By the way, I again have that damn song stuck in my head now because of you. Curse you! LOL! :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I agree they should do this on the condition that there is a time travel bit where I can get FIXED TOS DISRUPTOR PISTOLS!!!!!!

    ( Just hoping a wandering Dev will read this and fix what they broke.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    That is a very valid point. A Klingon specific FE or two could also help get more people interested in rolling a Klingon character.

    Well, I am one of those people who wants to see more variation among the sides.

    It drives me up a wall when I see people asking for Fed Carriers and Raiders, or KFD Recon and Retro-style Science Vessels, or for the Carriers to get all of the Science Vessel-style abilities. Or when I see people take something like the diplomacy system and suggest a KDF version where they have basically just directly lifted everything from the diplomacy system then said, "Hmm, now how can I make this seem klingony?" or Feds asking for Sorties.

    There isn't enough to distinguish the sides as is. The KDF has almost no PvE all it's own, and the Feds don't have a single unique ship-type, just a few minor variations among "The Big Three."

    While I appreciate the Weeklies for what they are, a method to get content out there for everyone, I don't see them as a viable substitute to providing stuff that is truly, and solely, klingon. An excellent stopgap, but a lousy solution.
    By the way, I again have that damn song stuck in my head now because of you. Curse you! LOL! :p

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This is something they really should do, especially with the Gorn or other less fleshed out faction of the KDF, but I doubt we'll see it soon - for the simple reason that they have to be already planning/working on the next FE series or two.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    A number of reasons, but mostly because of dstahl's childish rant about how we're a mere 12% of the player base, and he's "tired of hearing us constantly complaining about Klingons being ignored." And oh yeah throw in a little bit of his "if you don't like how I'm driving you can jump outta da car boy."

    As if being only 12% of the player base somehow makes it ok that they're going to deliberately break their word to their paying customers ("Two factions. Full PvE content.") I realize that nowdays it's only ignorant hicks like myself that get upset when people deliberately lie to me, but that's just how I am.

    They'll never make a Featured Episode that's Klingon based, and you know it.

    Ouch, that's harsh Dstahl, and quite frankly, it doesn't bode well if you guys ever do make Cardassians and Romulans a full fledged faction.
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