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Bring on the fighter craft/shuttles.

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
OK, with the new weekly series (which I enjoyed, thanks cryptic crew) we got to do a mission in nothing but a shuttle craft and it was fun. Then we get to see the scorpion fighters all over the place. Now to sound like Oliver and say "Can I have more please?". Let's face it, Cryptic added allot by doing this and has added a new realm to the game play. I'm hoping they continue in this direction and would love to get more shuttles and maybe even a few fighters. Obvious additions would be......

Venture Class:
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Venture_class
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Federation_mission_scoutship

and thanks to the newest Weekly maybe even a

Scorpion Class:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Scorpion_class
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Scorpion_class

I'd even like to see the

Valkyrie Class:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Valkyrie_class

Now before anyone says that we already have the Scorpion's keep in mind they are pets and are not pilotable yet. It would be nice if we could have the Valkyrie's in the same way, as a ship device much like the Scorpions and even one to actually pilot like a shuttle craft. They could even go as far as finally add a Fed Carrier with the

Typhon Class:

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Typhon_class

Make a new deployable fighter wing like the fighters for the Klingon carriers made up of the Valkyrie class fighters too. Now as for the Klingons...... well let's face it, there are only a few models that are around and they already use most of them. The Dev team will need to come up with some new ones for them but they could start with what's already being used by the carriers and other Klingon aligned races.

Please feel free to add your Ideas for other Federation and Klingon fighters and shuttles here too.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I'd love, no kill to see this to but wouldn't Cryptic run into a problem with the fact that Star Trek Invasion was done by Activision. I'm referring to the Valkyrie and Typhon that is.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    No, not at all, CBS (I'm pretty sure it's CBS anyway) owns the complete rights to Star Trek franchise and that means all of the intellectual properties that go with it. The only stuff that they can't use is fan made stuff like from these sites

    http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/

    http://legacy.filefront.com/

    http://armada2.filefront.com/

    http://starfleetcommand3.filefront.com/
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Well if they can do it then I say hell yeah, I'll sign on to it then. Oh, and thanks for making me dig out my old games to play for nostalgia reasons. I see tons of stuff on those links I want now LOL.

    On a side note, Cryptic, maybe you should hire some of these people, the modelers and texturers,
    from these sites, they're making alot of STO's stuff look kinda crappy and they're doing it on some pretty old games too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    dont forget: http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rifts-Trek-Ships/Federation_Peregrine.htm

    featured a lot in the final episodes of DS9. and my favo. would love to be able to craft this, add dual cannons (since thats what they used in the series) and put on magic carpet ride http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwDa5dMmfZ4

    hihooooo silverrr awayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ..... :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    To -ACE-Blaze, I know right. and to CedricO, the only reason I didn't bring up the Peregrine is the fact that they have already said they are adding it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Honnestly I say:

    Buy the rights of this man's work:

    http://stareagle11.deviantart.com/favourites/#/d1htj95 <black version because we all know black is awesome
    http://stareagle11.deviantart.com/favourites/?offset=24#/d1hsrth <normal version because the normal one is already amezing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Wow, those are nice but they fall under the fan made stuff so no joy which really sucks because those are really nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bastion13 wrote:
    Wow, those are nice but they fall under the fan made stuff so no joy which really sucks because those are really nice.

    I know :( I love these ones.

    So sad the creator of these stopped doing trek things mostly and went to his own universe, which is awesome as well, but it still isn't star trek.

    A well one might dream.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Man, I wish they'd hire people like this for there ship designs, there are a lot nice ship designs floating about that are fan made so step up Cryptic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I know right. Any of you Klingon fans out there list the stuff you'd like to see here too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yay Star Fighters! <3
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OK, let me rephrase that, stuff we may actually get to have in game but yes, I guess a Gunstar ( http://www.kitsune.addr.com/SF-Conversions/Rifts-Other-Vehicles/Last_Starfighter_Gunstar_Starfighter.htm ) would be nice but not very likely.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bastion13 wrote:
    No, not at all, CBS (I'm pretty sure it's CBS anyway) owns the complete rights to Star Trek franchise and that means all of the intellectual properties that go with it.

    Did you read Aks Cryptic February?

    Q: kekvin85: Any plans to use ships or characters from previous Star Trek Games like Legacy, Armada, Starfleet Command, New worlds etc?

    A: While we don't have any deliberate plans on the table to use ships or characters from other Star Trek games, it is an interesting question of whether we can include soft canon references in Star Trek Online. In some cases we want to include something new in the game that hasn't been referenced specifically in a TV show or Movie.

    If CBS had the all rights to the games as you claim the have, this would be a non-issue.
    CBS has the rights to what was seen on TV and in the movies, anything else like game belongs to the companies that made them.
    That's why there is no Emperor Class from "Klingon Academy" and no Incursion class from "Away Team" in STO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    OK, if we follow that then it means that the Luna Class wouldn't be in game and I think I remember reading somewhere that we were going to be getting the Vesta Class too and neither of those were on screen, only in books. If they were to add only what was on the screen (whether big or T.V.) it would mean we'd get the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as it was in a Star Trek movie so would that make it canon. Even if the Answer is yes I doubt we'd get that into STO.

    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Akira_and_Millennium_Falcon.jpg
    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Millennium_Falcon#Cylindrical_Ship_at_the_Battle_of_Sector_001
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Bastion13 wrote:
    OK, if we follow that then it means that the Luna Class wouldn't be in game and I think I remember reading somewhere that we were going to be getting the Vesta Class too and neither of those were on screen, only in books. If they were to add only what was on the screen (whether big or T.V.) it would mean we'd get the Millennium Falcon from Star Wars as it was in a Star Trek movie so would that make it canon. Even if the Answer is yes I doubt we'd get that into STO.

    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Akira_and_Millennium_Falcon.jpg
    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Millennium_Falcon#Cylindrical_Ship_at_the_Battle_of_Sector_001

    Cryptic struck a deal with Pocket books, which was no problem for them since one is no competitor to the other.
    In fact it was a win-win for them since STO promotes the Luna and soon the Vesta and therefore might get people interested in the books.
    And the other way around they can say: "Look this game has the ships from the novels, come check it out."

    Note: they struck a deal.
    A clear example that it's not "CBS owns everything."
    Otherwise they'd probably have the Chancellor class in too.
    http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Qang_class

    Also the Kzinti are not in STO because...CBS does not own everything and despite the fact the Kzinti were in the Animated Series.

    Background things like the Falcon "First Contact", R2D2 in "Star Trek"(2009), the priginal Enterprise in NuBSG, the Imperial Shuttle in "Firefly" and the Sernity in a Star Wars comic

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Firefly-class_mid-bulk_transport

    are no problem as long as they are small background pieces.

    When you actually try to use them the real legal war starts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Why not just leave this persons post alone and add something constructive to it instead of telling them they're SOL and they'll never see anything like this and to deal with it. As I said in another post read what was said, not what you think it says.

    "While we don't have any deliberate plans on the table to use ships or characters from other Star Trek games, it is an interesting question of whether we can include soft canon references in Star Trek Online. In some cases we want to include something new in the game that hasn't been referenced specifically in a TV show or Movie."

    It doesn't say anywhere in that response that there are no plans to add anything of the sort, just that they aren't planning on doing anything like that right now or if they even can and not that they can't.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    That post doesn't say that they can't, but they HAVE said that they can't do certain things several times.

    When Star Trek Legacy and the rest of that flurry of Trek games Bethesda published a few years back was coming out, the same problem got brought up. Their early concepts and magazine interviews planned 40+ ships not counting new designs in some of those games, and I think Legacy topped out at half of that, and that was with a lot of new designs. They put that up to IP issues - anything that wasn't on screen in the shows or movies wasn't part of the license but owned by the developer or publisher that created it, even some things actually created for the shows weren't part of the license because they never appeared and rights stayed with the special effect studios and artists who created them.

    It's not like Star Wars where one entity keeps a stranglehold on all rights and can license it as one huge mess (though Lucas doesn't do that - they give setting limited licenses - they theoretically can).

    Which is potentially a good thing, because Star Wars is forever burdened with the fact that the Holiday Special was declared canon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    All Cryptic would really have to do is update it to the current time line anyway. swap out the warp nacelles do some tweaks to the over all hull, same with the fighters, and BAM, new ship with retro looks of the old one and no one has any liability issues. As for the Venture Class.... that is canon, it was in Star Trek Insurrection.
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