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Yep, I just said that. Since the factions arent going to be coming any time soon, add the in game Rom and Card ships to the C-store spread out over the various levels they would apply to. Call them "captured" ships if you want, and let both the Feds and Klingons use them.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kheldons special ability: Photonic Galor Fleet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    hm, nope. Only when Romulans are out but these ships should be just for them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kheldons special ability: Photonic Galor Fleet

    D'Deridex special ability: Plasma Torpedo Volley.

    I like this idea a lot. Would work well with GNagus' idea for Romulan based Foundry Missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    No please. Nope, nada, no way, no how, nuh-uh, nyet, nein.

    Save'em for the factions when they come out. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Pyryck wrote:
    No please. Nope, nada, no way, no how, nuh-uh, nyet, nein.

    Save'em for the factions when they come out. :)

    This, so much. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    ..... yeah, I'm gonna say this is probably not gonna happen. Plus, it's a pretty ill-concieved idea. Leave the faction ships as they are, even if those factions aren't playable at the moment. If you wanna fly a Galor or a Warbird, go get a holoemitter or something.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Oh good grief no! I hate the idea of the Vulcan ship, (It makes more sense for Klingons because it more like alliances then one faction, but a Klingon would never align with Romulans and CERTAINLY not the honorless peta'Qs that are Cardassians!) and I do not want to see those ships flying around. It simply makes no sense!

    Stop breaking canon, immersion, SENSE, and, shall we say, logic, just because something is "cool". Exempli gratia; the borg parts, Pets (in some cases), Vulcan Ship, the amount of liberated borg. All these things people think are so cool, simply doesn't make sense to me, and they break a lot of those things for the sake of cool. I think this suggestion would be another one of those cases.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Pyryck wrote:
    No please. Nope, nada, no way, no how, nuh-uh, nyet, nein.

    Save'em for the factions when they come out. :)

    I'd imagine the factions would get better, more customizable ships with additional fun mechanics that would be developed between now and then.

    The proposed C-Store ships could be type-1; using the current NPC models without customization.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Martok42 wrote: »
    but a Klingon would never align with Romulans and CERTAINLY not the honorless peta'Qs that are Cardassians!

    Klingons get to fly a Runabout, but they don't ally with the Feds.
    Call them "captured" ships if you want, and let both the Feds and Klingons use them.

    If a player wants to RP their captured ship as the real deal, that's their prerogative.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Pyryck wrote:
    No please. Nope, nada, no way, no how, nuh-uh, nyet, nein.

    Save'em for the factions when they come out. :)

    And this too! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    as much as i like cardassin and romulan ships.... no way, they should wait until the factions come out otherwise it just gets silly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Kristyna wrote:
    hm, nope.
    Pyryck wrote:
    No please.
    GT01 wrote: »
    ..... yeah, I'm gonna say this is probably not gonna happen.
    Martok42 wrote: »
    Oh good grief no! I

    If you dont like then idea...DONT BUY THEM. Why is it whenever someone suggests an idea the people who dont like it seem to think it would be FORCED on them? I guess some people have no self control.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Klingons get to fly a Runabout, but they don't ally with the Feds.



    If a player wants to RP their captured ship as the real deal, that's their prerogative.

    Wait, what? What ARE you talking about??



    Personally I don't care even slightly about that. When you think of logical reason to put them in game, yes you have RP a little as in the ST universe. And really I can't find a logical reason for that to work with Feds. Klingons, maybe more so, but I am still against it.

    Ok, so this captain comes back from battle a Warbird in tow, (Keep in mind we are not at war with Romulans) they are just going to be like "Hey you can make this your new ship if you want!" Uuuhh WHY??

    Don't give me that Kirk stole a BoP TRIBBLE either, he was a fugitive at that point.

    And not even from a in universe stand point. Just from a MMO standpoint, we should save it for the Factions. Why would people go to the Rom side, when we have all the stuff the roms need on both other sides? And I know I would be less excited for the rom side, to get to, say, fly a warbird, if I could already get one the year leading up to it...

    It's just.... no...

    Also! I dont think it going to happen ever so no use in arguing over it. Because even you somehow convince everyone it makes sense and is a good thing to do, devs still aint doin it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    If you dont like then idea...DONT BUY THEM. Why is it whenever someone suggests an idea the people who dont like it seem to think it would be FORCED on them? I guess some people have no self control.

    Good god, it's not about ME having them, it's about the idea of other people having them. No it's not a jealously thing. It's just an immersion, canon breaking thing that I don't want to see. Just like I hate seeing people run around in neon green, I hate seeing people have the hideous borg ships, and I hate seeing 1000 sehlats on ESD/Qonos.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Martok42 wrote: »
    Wait, what? What ARE you talking about??

    The Klingon mission where you pilot a captured Runabout?
    Also! I dont think it going to happen ever so no use in arguing over it. Because even you somehow convince everyone it makes sense and is a good thing to do, devs still aint doin it.

    Ain't that the truth! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    why they should add these ships if they plan to add the whole faction?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Martok42 wrote: »
    Good god, it's not about ME having them, it's about the idea of other people having them. No it's not a jealously thing. It's just an immersion, canon breaking thing that I don't want to see. Just like I hate seeing people run around in neon green, I hate seeing people have the hideous borg ships, and I hate seeing 1000 sehlats on ESD/Qonos.

    It might not be about you having them, but it is clearly about you. You dont want your immersion broken, therefore you want to say what other people should be able to do with their characters.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    It might not be about you having them, but it is clearly about you. You dont want your immersion broken, therefore you want to say what other people should be able to do with their characters.

    Well duh! I never said it wasn't about me! Everyone posting here posts about them. They say "I Want to be able to buy these things." I say "I Dont want you to be able to."

    And it's not really me telling them what to do with their characters, it's saying I don't want them to mess up the game for me. (And it isn't just me) Someone said they just view this game as a game, and everyone in it is a character in that game, not a person. (That is that persons view of it) And if I was playing, saaay, Bridge commander, and in one of the mission there is a fed fighting along side me in a Warbird, and another in a Galor, I would be angry at the lack of sense.

    That is really my point, is that seeing people fly around in canon breaking stuff is just stupid. What's the point of playing a Star Trek game that blatantly disregards Star Trek. (I know I know, Canon breaks itself, well there is nothing we can do about that)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yep, I just said that. Since the factions arent going to be coming any time soon, add the in game Rom and Card ships to the C-store spread out over the various levels they would apply to. Call them "captured" ships if you want, and let both the Feds and Klingons use them.

    No thanks, Leave the bones of teh individual factions where they are and play them when the faction is released. There is no need for the feds or KDF to have romulan/cardassian vessel as a possible permannent part of any players vessel choice at this time or ever outside those individual factions.

    It opens the door for pandering just alittle wider, I mean would the feds be happy if my Klink was able to pilot a SOvie or Defiant? It shatters the illusion of faction individuality and lessen the game as a whole.


    If the Cardassians are added later the the fed faction as a member in protectorate, I see no issue with them being in the Cstore at the time. Same could be said for Andorians, Vulcans, Betazoids,etc as well as the Gorn, Nausicians, and Orions within the KDF faction. I fully expect to see Playable Romulans and Hirogen vessels once teh Romie faction started, but NO the feds should not get a Cstore Romie/Cardassian ship just because they are impatient and want the percieved cooler toys in the sandbox now.

    Klingons get to fly a Runabout, but they don't ally with the Feds.
    So it would be alright for KDF players to start flying "captured" federations vessels?

    I would disagree on any sort of cross-over of vessels and still maintain that a level of seperation must be kept or gameplay goes vanilla very quickly unless said crossing is strictly just part of a mission and not a permanent acquisistion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Martok42 wrote: »
    And it's not really me telling them what to do with their characters, it's saying I don't want them to mess up the game for me.

    LOL, which is the same thing. You dont want them to do anything with their characters that will mess up the game for you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    No thanks, Leave the bones of teh individual factions where they are and play them when the faction is released. There is no need for the feds or KDF to have romulan/cardassian vessel as a possible permannent part of any players vessel choice at this time or ever outside those individual factions.

    It opens the door for pandering just alittle wider, I mean would the feds be happy if my Klink was able to pilot a SOvie or Defiant? It shatters the illusion of faction individuality and lessen the game as a whole.

    I think this sums a lot of it up nicely...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    LOL, which is the same thing. You dont want them to do anything with their characters that will mess up the game for you.

    *Sigh* I was saying it wasn't like I was just saying "You cant do this with your character because I said so" I was pointing out I was doing it for the game, while it does make them not do things to their characters that was not the point. I was simply refuting the notion that I was just trying to control other peoples characters.

    So my point is this: While it does limit thier characters, that is not my main point it is simply a cause of what I want, not the main thing. I am not denying that I dont want them to do stuff with thier characters.

    So not the same thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Yep, I just said that. Since the factions arent going to be coming any time soon, add the in game Rom and Card ships to the C-store spread out over the various levels they would apply to. Call them "captured" ships if you want, and let both the Feds and Klingons use them.

    Erm...imo no, mainly because ppl would demand / want "captured" Klingon / Borg / Undine ships as well and those ships should only be avaliable to those specific factions anyways...

    As a matter of fact, Cryptic should make it so Tactical Officers are restricted to Tactical ships only, Engineers restricted to cruisers, and Science restricted to science ships...that way it makes the player learn / grind all 3 classes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I really like this idea.

    I can see why people would be against it. It would be much better to have the 2 factions in the game and I would fully support that. But lets face it the game is coming along leaps about bounds but the work involved in adding these two factions is massive. I would love to see Cryptic put the resources available to do it but sadly it doesn't appear to be the case. It has been a year and you still can't start as a Klingon and the KDF is very lacking in content.

    So in all honesty does anyone really think we will see Romulans any time soon? And with this beinh the case they need to find a way to bring in these very iconic factions into the game and make the game feel more epic. And this would be a step in the right direction and broaden what STO offers to people that would enjoy playing captains from these factions without having to wait years to see it happen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    I agree to save them for their particular faction other than maybe shuttles or shuttle pets. But I don't agree to just slap them on the C-Store. Non-federation factions don't have as many canon ship designs, they're going to need every asset effort in-game. Without Emblem grind as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Well look at it this way, if the Remans join the federation, their fleet will so too. We have one canon ship wich is the Scimitar (I want to fly her so bad) and it has been stated in the Titan novels that reman fleets consist of various old, scavenged and modified Romulan and Klingon vessels. Old Mogais, old D7 cruisers, Romulan scoutships etc. Second time I suggest this today lol but read the book Taking Wing, great one to read during this series and in anticipation for the Romulan faction.
    But back on topic, this would be an option to add some Klingon and Romulan ships to the C-store for the Federation faction. They shouldn't look canon though, but repainted and somewhat modified
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    This would completely negate having them once the factions are actually released, so I'd have to disagree with having them put in the C-Store. As much as I hate to say it, I'd rather wait.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    The Klingon mission where you pilot a captured Runabout?

    And now the Million Dollar Question:
    What does a mission have to do with a permanent purchase from the C-Store?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    Roach wrote: »
    No thanks, Leave the bones of teh individual factions where they are and play them when the faction is released. There is no need for the feds or KDF to have romulan/cardassian vessel as a possible permannent part of any players vessel choice at this time or ever outside those individual factions.

    It opens the door for pandering just alittle wider, I mean would the feds be happy if my Klink was able to pilot a SOvie or Defiant? It shatters the illusion of faction individuality and lessen the game as a whole.


    If the Cardassians are added later the the fed faction as a member in protectorate, I see no issue with them being in the Cstore at the time. Same could be said for Andorians, Vulcans, Betazoids,etc as well as the Gorn, Nausicians, and Orions within the KDF faction. I fully expect to see Playable Romulans and Hirogen vessels once teh Romie faction started, but NO the feds should not get a Cstore Romie/Cardassian ship just because they are impatient and want the percieved cooler toys in the sandbox now.

    Thank you, this is the way I see it as well.
    Nicely put.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2011
    No thanks! Please keep ship availability tied to their factions!


    People need to realise that good games are defined as much as by what they allow you to do as by what they prevent you from doing.
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