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I might have missed it, but has there been any mention of, or plans to add Caition Bridge officers?

If not I think it would be very cool if they did in fact add them.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I don't remember seeing any dev statements about it. It might be a good thing to ask about in the current Engineering Reports thread.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    There were several posts about Catian BOs back in May and June, but they sort of just dropped off the radar for a while.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Last I heard they were waiting until either they fixed the hair or they did their "play as your BO" feature. Hope it is the former, who knows how long we could be waiting for the latter.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Came expecting a post about Caition Body Odor. Left Disappointed.:(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Last I'd read they were waiting to implement Caitian Bridge Officers until after they'd sorted out the "Play as Your Bridge Officer" feature.

    Something about not wanting those who hadn't bought the Caitian off the C-Store to have access to a Caitian as a PC through said feature, or more specifically, not wanting those who had bought a Caitian off the C-Store to whoop and hollar over previous statement.

    Give me a little bit, I'll see if I can't dig up the post.

    EDIT:: I can't find it, but I'm relatively certain it was something like this that I had read.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I have recieved Klingon, RIgelian, Ferengi , and Tellarite bridge officers, and I did purchace those species. I don't know if others who have not purchaced those races can recieve them. If there is a issue of not purchacing those races, then what makes Catitins special, but not Klingons and Ferengi special?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    madjik wrote: »
    Last I'd read they were waiting to implement Caitian Bridge Officers until after they'd sorted out the "Play as Your Bridge Officer" feature.

    Something about not wanting those who hadn't bought the Caitian off the C-Store to have access to a Caitian as a PC through said feature, or more specifically, not wanting those who had bought a Caitian off the C-Store to whoop and hollar over previous statement.

    Give me a little bit, I'll see if I can't dig up the post.

    EDIT:: I can't find it, but I'm relatively certain it was something like this that I had read.

    If it's any help, I saw the same exact thing. Basically (I might have fudged it somewhere so feel free to correct me) the reasoning is: you can promote one of your bridge officers to PLAYABLE captain. So because Caitians (and others included) are paid species they don't want to make the effort of buying stuff useless.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    NeilCell wrote: »
    I have recieved Klingon, RIgelian, Ferengi , and Tellarite bridge officers, and I did purchace those species. I don't know if others who have not purchaced those races can recieve them. If there is a issue of not purchacing those races, then what makes Catitins special, but not Klingons and Ferengi special?

    That's just it, that's what's delaying everything. They gotta figure out some kind of mechanic for what's already in the game so that there is no problem with purchased races becoming captains without using the C-Store, Delaying the release of the Caitian BO is just a side-effect of that.

    As far as Caitians being more 'Special", there is a little truth to that in that there were a lot of people on the forums Pushing for Caitians to be released as a playable race before they were put on the C-Store.

    Cryptic doesn't seem to want to cheapen the fact that a race was paid for, and rightly so, given that the forums usually erupt in a glorious blaze of fury and QQ over such things.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    madjik wrote: »
    That's just it, that's what's delaying everything. They gotta figure out some kind of mechanic for what's already in the game so that there is no problem with purchased races becoming captains without using the C-Store, Delaying the release of the Caitian BO is just a side-effect of that.
    I'm sorry but that's an excuse. There are Klingon BOs, Tellarate BOs, Rigelian BOs, Ferengi BOs, and Pakled BOs already in the game. There's no reason to not have Caitian BOs also in the game. They won't cause any more problem to any upcoming promotion system then any of the other c-store specific races will.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    I'm sorry but that's an excuse. There are Klingon BOs, Tellarate BOs, Rigelian BOs, Ferengi BOs, and Pakled BOs already in the game. There's no reason to not have Caitian BOs also in the game. They won't cause any more problem to any upcoming promotion system then any of the other c-store specific races will.

    No need to "shoot the messenger" as it were. If you feel that's simply an excuse, then it's cryptic's and not mine. I'm merely passing along what I read; I only wish I could find the post (or interview?) that I got it from so I could drop it in here as a reference.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Here's some info:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=166082

    It's not the post I read previously (and who knows, what I read previously may be older then this) But the Sthalzilla himself posts 4 replys in this thread giving some info.

    Still looking for the other that has what I read in it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    My point is that when you already have 5 c-store BOs in the game a 6th doesn't cause any more problems then the first 5. Caitians aren't be held back because of a future BO-to-Captain system (a system which might be 6 months or more away) because that system would cause just as much trouble for players who wanted to upgrade any of the others to Captain.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I understand what you're saying. I really do. However, Cryptic disagrees with you.

    I found the quote, It was in the Oct. Q & A:

    http://www.startrekonline.com/node/2113

    Q: HotStuff_ST: When can we expect to get Caitian Bridge Officers?

    Dstahl: We’ve been holding on to some very specific Bridge Officer species so that we can first finalize all the details of converting a Bridge Officer to a Captain. Since Caitians are a premium species offered through the C-Store, we do not want to trivialize player’s purchases by allowing everyone to simply go get a Caitain bridge officer and converting it to a playable Captain. So once we’ve worked out the details of how the conversion feature will work, we will come up with a fair way to add these rare Bridge Officers into the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    And to be honest, thats simply Dstahl also not thinking through the process when he answered the question. Even the main-man's not infallible. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    And to be honest, thats simply Dstahl also not thinking through the process when he answered the question. Even the main-man's not infallible. :)

    None-the less, it's what we have to go on right now. The information I gave is exactly what he said is it not?

    Unless you have further posts and further information (which is absolutely possible given that the Q & A is now almost a month old), this is all that I know. I wasn't arguing for the sake of arguing as it were, simply stating what I'd read. ;) If there is more information floating out there in the STO forum nether, I know I'd be interested in reading it, as this is all I was able to pull up.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I think you're taking this all a bit personally. I'm not attacking you. I consider the sitution to be a crock, whether said by you, Dstahl, or Jackalope; and I don't even care about the Caitain BO.

    The reason stated makes no sense in conjunction with the other c-store BOs, no the ones forthcoming in the future. And I can't believe Dstahl is that short-sighted to not see that. Since Dstalh puts a lot of effort into pleasing the fans there has to be another reason to hold back the Caitain, IMO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    You'll get your mangy cats once I get my catfish(Benzites).
    Catfish BOs that should have been in game since launch and has the major obstacle of having disfigured hands.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    I think you're taking this all a bit personally. I'm not attacking you. I consider the sitution to be a crock, whether said by you, Dstahl, or Jackalope; and I don't even care about the Caitain BO.

    The reason stated makes no sense in conjunction with the other c-store BOs, no the ones forthcoming in the future. And I can't believe Dstahl is that short-sighted to not see that. Since Dstalh puts a lot of effort into pleasing the fans there has to be another reason to hold back the Caitain, IMO.

    They even have Caitian NPCs running around...

    Maybe what they intend is to actually sell BOs of C-store species in the future instead of have them in-game too, with the 'justification' of the promotion system.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    I'm not taking it personally (though I do tend to come off more defensively then I intend), but I was probably misunderstanding how you were directing what you were saying, my bad.

    I do however, agree with your statement. It's a bit of a crock given the current c-store BO's that are in the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Maybe what they intend is to actually sell BOs of C-store species in the future instead of have them in-game too, with the 'justification' of the promotion system.
    It's possible. They already have the Liberated Borg BOs in the c-store, and there's talk about maybe putting the Breen in there, so I wouldn't be surprised to see others get added for a small price. And to be honest I don't have a major problem with that, except for the fact that there are already several c-store races in the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    It's possible. They already have the Liberated Borg BOs in the c-store, and there's talk about maybe putting the Breen in there, so I wouldn't be surprised to see others get added for a small price. And to be honest I don't have a major problem with that, except for the fact that there are already several c-store races in the game.

    Well, it'd just be continuing down the path of more and more things with unique mechanics that affect the game being put on there...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wrote:
    Well, it'd just be continuing down the path of more and more things with unique mechanics that affect the game being put on there...
    There's nothing really mechanicallly unique about Caitian BO's. It's all a fluff image thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    There's nothing really mechanicallly unique about Caitian BO's. It's all a fluff image thing.

    Aaaaaaand which vanilla game species has an innate Lunge available?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wrote:
    Aaaaaaand which vanilla game species has an innate Lunge available?
    Pounce can be taken as one of your 4 traits, meaning you lose a trait by taking it. That's certainly no different then a Vulcan's mind meld ability, a Betazoid's expose increase ability, a Saurian's damage resistance ability, or any of the other unique abilities non-c-store BOs get. It adds no more advantage to the character then any of the other abilities do.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    Pounce can be taken as one of your 4 traits, meaning you lose a trait by taking it. That's certainly no different then a Vulcan's mind meld ability, a Betazoid's expose increase ability, a Saurian's damage resistance ability, or any of the other unique abilities non-c-store BOs get. It adds no more advantage to the character then any of the other abilities do.

    By that logic, they should start putting up new weapon types and BO powers in the C-store, since you'd still have to choose which ones to use, right?

    Because that's exactly the sort of thing they were promising not to do. And it's the exact same concept.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wrote:
    By that logic, they should start putting up new weapon types and BO powers in the C-store, since you'd still have to choose which ones to use, right?

    Because that's exactly the sort of thing they were promising not to do. And it's the exact same concept.
    There's no logic required. If a "unique" BO ability isn't really unique, but rather simply different then another BO's "unique" ability there's no issue. The Pounce trait adds nothing special to the character that any of the other BO abilities don't also add. It's not like Caitians get 4 traits and Pounce. Every species gets 4 traits and they're all unique in their own way; whether on paid-for or stock BOs.

    A Vulcan's mind-meld is very handy when the Swordmaster is kicking you butt. It's certainly more handy then the Pounce ability, that you can get for free on any tactical kit.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Damn, I hate the Swordmaster...maybe I should play a Vulcan. LOL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    wrote:
    Damn, I hate the Swordmaster...maybe I should play a Vulcan. LOL
    Yeah, the mind-meld makes them run off and attack their allies for a brief time. Very useful on all the boss types. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    regardless of the arguments for or against, the fact remains cryptic seems to be throwing around allot of excuses.I mean come on how hard can a chair you can sit in actually be, when some older games than this one, have had it since their launch day
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited October 2010
    Since we didn't write the initial code we have no idea how hard it is to add now.
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