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So my buddy and I were batting this idea around last night and I really think we have a winner here!
So we were doing some PvP yesterday and over teamspeak I kept hearing "Fire Torpedoes dammit!!!". My buddy was getting tired of firing his fore torpedos at his primary target, only to notice that a ship was flying past behind him. He kept cursing the universal cooldown on Torpedo launchers and the fact you can't fire 2 tubes simultaniously, even when one is fore and the other aft.
So we were on the phone afterward and we came up with a new skill idea that would make things... EVER so much more interesting:
"Fire All Torpedos" or "Fire at Will: Torpedos"
Tactical BO skill
Torpedo Skill (Cannot be used in conjunction with High Yield or Spread)
MK I: LieutenantTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 10 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 15%
MK II: Lieutenant CommanderTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 15 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 25%
MK III: CommanderTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 20 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 35%
Does not increase/decrease damage to torpedos. All available torpedo bays will fire randomly at any target within effective range (within 10km, in the 90 degree firing arc). Does NOT apply to Tricobalt, or Transphasic Cluster Launcher. Will only fire STANDARD plasma torpedoes.
Used in conjunction with fire at will, this skill would be SO useful and fun to watch... it would make torpedo boats a VIABLE build... it wouldn't be overpowered due to the reduction of kinetic damage by shields. I think this would be one of those nice filler skills that would REALLY add to the tactical side. It's no more lethal than gravity well... or eject warp plasma. So this would be a great addition.
Of course this would be something that would have to be tested and the stats reduced/increased for balance... but hey, that all part of the process right!?
So we were doing some PvP yesterday and over teamspeak I kept hearing "Fire Torpedoes dammit!!!". My buddy was getting tired of firing his fore torpedos at his primary target, only to notice that a ship was flying past behind him. He kept cursing the universal cooldown on Torpedo launchers and the fact you can't fire 2 tubes simultaniously, even when one is fore and the other aft.
So we were on the phone afterward and we came up with a new skill idea that would make things... EVER so much more interesting:
"Fire All Torpedos" or "Fire at Will: Torpedos"
Tactical BO skill
Torpedo Skill (Cannot be used in conjunction with High Yield or Spread)
MK I: LieutenantTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 10 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 15%
MK II: Lieutenant CommanderTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 15 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 25%
MK III: CommanderTemporarily disables universal torpedo cooldown for 20 seconds
Reduces Torpedo cooldown by 35%
Does not increase/decrease damage to torpedos. All available torpedo bays will fire randomly at any target within effective range (within 10km, in the 90 degree firing arc). Does NOT apply to Tricobalt, or Transphasic Cluster Launcher. Will only fire STANDARD plasma torpedoes.
Used in conjunction with fire at will, this skill would be SO useful and fun to watch... it would make torpedo boats a VIABLE build... it wouldn't be overpowered due to the reduction of kinetic damage by shields. I think this would be one of those nice filler skills that would REALLY add to the tactical side. It's no more lethal than gravity well... or eject warp plasma. So this would be a great addition.
Of course this would be something that would have to be tested and the stats reduced/increased for balance... but hey, that all part of the process right!?
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There is even some soft canon to support this modification to say....Escorts.
Given that Science Vessels have the "Target Subsystem" function built into the ships, why not build in a nice tactical function to Escorts, and a nice defensive function to the cruisers?
Remember the DS9 episode where the Definat went out to attack the sensor array in the Argolis Cluster? The book version of that episode told of Chief O'Brien rigging the Definat to empty all of her quantum torpedoes in a chain fire method, turning the Defiant into a Gatling gun if you will.
So, a "Torpedo: Fire At Will" function, added to Escorts, could be based on this concept, firing all torpedoes at aquired targets in your vicinity, then applying a cooldown to the tubes (Like Beam Overload) as well as a cooldown on the ability which matches the cooldowns for the "Target Subsystems" functions on Science vessels.
Great idea!
Yeah, the autofire function already covers the "Fire all torpedoes". Also, you can't fire all torpedoes as they go out the same tube, so regardless of how you configure it, you may have 20 torpedoes and 2 tubes to launch from.... so no go.
Honestly, this skill doesn't make much, if any sense. I say pass on this idea.
Allow me to explain in -simpler terms- for those who don't 'get it'. :rolleyes:
Simple really.
Autofire = fires torps at ONE single target repeatedly
My idea = fires ONE torp out of EVERY tube you have on your ship at (potentially) MULTIPLE targets
Make sense now?
So for those simple people, your shooting a torpedo out of the back of your ship with nobody there huh? GENIUS!
As seen in the shows and movies (First Contact does a nice High Yield III on the Borg Sphere), it's only so quick.... and maybe it's a power issue or a safety issue with proximity when launching but it always seems to be alternating....
They already canned Death Blossom! (See! )
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=184748
This quote is complete bunk. When escorts were nerfed, they were nerfed far too much.
I have an escort and have no issue with it in PvP or PvE.... adaptability.... its the secret...
I can agree that when it was concieved that a single escort shouldn't able to take on a cruiser easily, much less destroy said cruiser, that the Dev's over-nerfed the escort a bit. While the escort is small and the cruisers are large, I feel that the firepower has been tweaked a little to low to achieve this.
But back to the topic, yes Roach... THANK you for participating in the conversation rather than trying hard to 'GANK' the topic. I would love to have some more variety when it comes to tactical skills. You can have an effective and usable beam boat... but a torpedo boat is slow and clumsy for having so much firepower. This skill would make such a build FAR more viable.
Think about all the wonderful Science builds and how such a wide variety of skills makes Sci captains so much fun to play. Engineers have quite a few tricks up their sleeves as well, but they are more subtle and defensive... but man, Tactical officers are pretty much a no brainer. You get the best High yield you can, Best beam overload, best Rapid fire, best attack pattern... and your just like every other ship out there. I don't even have room with my tac officer to vary my skills. I litterally have copies of every tac skill I use DUE to the fact there is so little to choose from. 2 high yields, 2 beam overloads, 2 rapid fires... My skill tray has an entire row dedicated to copies! LOL
Yeah.... still not feeling it. The defiant got owned in First Contact, did the Sovereign?
Game...
Set...
MATCH!
but sanity is not my strong point, or so I've been told.
The only problem I see is the Dev's fear of actual Torpedo boats being possible ( I assume they fear this) and upsetting any balance in the game by having a ships with one or two BOL's and a whole lot of torps for when the shields go down on a target.
Personally feel that a "Fire Torps at will" bridge offierc ability would be a fine addition to the game, but doubt that the Dev's will ever give the different torpedoes seperate CD's and individual fire capabilities.
As to the Defiants toughness, yes- ingame the Defiant seems less than the durable vessel portrayed in the shows andf more crunchy. All due to balancing out the firepower I can imagine, though I think they over did the nerf on escort/BoP/Raptor firepower as well and need to dial it up about 10% to compensate for the high healing/resistance capabilities of the cruiser and science vessels ingame.
Last night I was doing my dailys in PvP... there were 3 carriers 1 raptor and 1 cruiser. As soon as the feds saw us they all shut off their engines and just sat outside the gate waiting to die. Being a carrier captain is almost depressing, because challenges are difficult to come by. No fed wants to even TRY to put me down, because they consider it impossible. So I wouldn't be opposed to nerfing carriers a bit in favor of boosting escort class ships a bit. Even them out.
Thank you!
Accordingly, I doubt it will be considered. Sorry.