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Why purchasing a Liberated Borg Bridge Officer is a BAD idea...
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One of the nicer feature of Season 2 is the ability for people to train commissioned bridge officers for friends. Nice idea.
However...
If you have a Liberated Borg bridge officer from the C-Store, you cannot transfer them to someone else to train... this makes them enormously less valuable, indeed I would argue they are actually a liability to anyone other than a Engineering Captain who can train them himself.
This is (1) a pity (2) unreasonable, given we are actually buying a feature-disabled bridge officer (and it is a major critical feature) and nowhere are we warned of this before we make the purchase.
However...
If you have a Liberated Borg bridge officer from the C-Store, you cannot transfer them to someone else to train... this makes them enormously less valuable, indeed I would argue they are actually a liability to anyone other than a Engineering Captain who can train them himself.
This is (1) a pity (2) unreasonable, given we are actually buying a feature-disabled bridge officer (and it is a major critical feature) and nowhere are we warned of this before we make the purchase.
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if you could trade em, one person could supply thousands of people.
for free.
think about that.
This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~GM Tiyshen
So they just tag them so that you cannot keep taking new ones (i.e. you can only take one-per-toon once you unlock it). It would only take very elementary coding.
The obvious solution is hardly rocket science. Any chance of an infraction for the gratuitously impolite flame bait please moderator?
like in wow, have a slot for it or something
i agree, most problems in this game are elementry coding fixes, its just they choose not to.
Typical snide answer expected from so many on this site. How about you think about limiting purchases of that bridge officer so trading them in that way is A) impractical and
and take the bo from them every time.
How are they going to control whether its a dummy toon or a "real" one?
The answer is not snide. It is simply pointing out the reason why those guys are not fit for trade.
You can wiggle around all day long, the fact does not change: its a vanity items that is being sold. Allowing players to trade em away hurts the sales.
This actually is a sensible idea.
1) C-store items are supposed to be minor and/or cosmetic
2) Borg officers are available from the c-store.
Ergo: Borg officers are supposed to be less useful than BOs acquired within the game.
All seems to work out.
What does "efficient" do, please?
Then as other more thoughtful people have suggested, they need to change the way training is done. It is clunky as hell as it is. Nice idea but poorly implemented and this issue shows another limitation of the system.
As a short term fix, simply tag to allow transfers between people who *both* already have liberated Borg BOffs (a majority of the population I suspect) ... problem solved.
That would also solve this problem, of course, as you could train them yourself.
I don't see how it would hurt sales, knowing Cryptic they'd just make it so once you've traded a Borg BO to someone if you want another one you'll have to buy it again. Therefore if a Million people all bought one BO it'd be the same as one person buying a million BO's and giving them away.
But I agree with the none tradedable slot like they have in WoW personally :P
The Efficient trait does two things:
1. provides a slight improvement to your ship's power level management, and
2. provides forum-goers with an important focus for pointless mathematics and complaints.
This game already has a few unique BOs and I imagine more will be added throughout the course of the game. There needs to be a solution sooner rather than later to allow these BOs to be trained. That or give them unique skills that are so good/useful you wouldn't WANT to train them.
If HaveUnlocked (AmazonBorgBO, TraderA, TraderB) = 1
{
/* Both players have unlocked Amazon Borg Bo - Allow Trade */
AllowTrade (TraderA, TraderB);
}
Else
{
/* One party does not have Amazon Borg - Abort Trade */
CancelTrade (TraderA, TraderB);
}
This!
Pack your bags and head for Los Catos as they need you thereto do some coding
If you are with another ship doesnt matter anyway(maybe on a BoP....I use aux to SIF 2 as my only heal but it is from trainer)
edit:if emergency power to shields 3 is from engineers(I dont remember and I am on my tactical char,I cba to relog) maybe you can go with aceton field 1
But this post is irrelevant off topic spam.
And to add insult to injury, it is incorrect irrelevant spam as Ker'rat was crawling with gold farmers last night, producing a torrent of zone chat abuse in Vietnamese every time I blew one up when they were trying to scan a node
That is only true if you do not already have expensive untrainable skills in all the wrong places on all the wrong officers because there was no warning that the Borg BOff was untrainable-by-transfer.
No prizes for guessing what situation I am in :rolleyes:
I see where the OP is coming from but the reasons they aren't tradable are clear (and covered above). And the changes needed to allow them to be traded...well, I'd be more afraid Cryptic would break something in the process.
Still, I'd love for them to be tradable. I'd have a full crew of efficient BOs on every one of my toons (making that lame-asses/over-priced/ultra-rare sauren BO worthless).
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=2976778#post2976778
Hopefully we'll get a dev reply
Going to have to disagree with you on all your points.
You are not realizing that the Liberated Borg BO has a whole lot more to it than just a power pool.
You have passives. Efficiency for one. Nanite Health Monitor. Etc. It is far from being inferior. All the skills on my Borg BO are ones trained by BOs gained by leveling up.
I've only trained Extend Shields III on it. But you can find Extend Shields II. Not that much difference.
Its not unreasonable. The Borg BO is very useful on its own. All my captains have a Borg BO on their ship. Even if its just the LT power. And the Borg BO is always on my away team trained with BO trainer skills like phaser turrets I, Phaser Turrets II, and Quantum Launcher. And I get an extra ground healer.
You might want to look at the passive skills of the Liberated Borg Bridge officer. You might change your mind on this topic. Definitely is worth it.
Nope. Totally not worth it to me. More to the point, the lack of options makes this a very questionable purchase.
So the Borg BOff was what you wanted and needed. Lucky you.
However for those of us who actually see the huge value of getting a different class captain to train up EPS III or ET III... it greatly devalues the usefulness of these BOffs.
And we were given no warning they were untrainable before we purchased them. Still, several fixes have been suggested that can make them trainable and still keep the accounts department happy.
It's a pretty simple solution, and it could be adapted for this.
Those borg BOs have one of the most insanely useful racial traits in the game. They're worth every penny.
You're talking about devoting significant developer resources and for what? One single BO that many subscribers don't even have?
There's about a million things I would rather see them do than that.
EVERYONE I know has one.