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In canon, during a space battle (nemisis for example), when a ships shields are down or at least one section of the ships shields, its possible for another ship to beam a boarding party to the opposing ship.
So why in STO (its a great game in my opinion just some inconsistencies) do we send extremely vulnerable shuttles, instead of transporting them.
That and i think that active boarding parties should get a 50/50 chance of disabling a subsystem and or crew, just a thought..
What do you peeps think?:rolleyes:
So why in STO (its a great game in my opinion just some inconsistencies) do we send extremely vulnerable shuttles, instead of transporting them.
That and i think that active boarding parties should get a 50/50 chance of disabling a subsystem and or crew, just a thought..
What do you peeps think?:rolleyes:
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Well, typically, the ship sending the teams would drop their facing shield for a split second to initiate transport...
Easy answer is... ease of use game mechanics. Hit & Run action takes precise timing and planning. Besides, to be perfectly honest, in STO with the very limited internal systems mechanics, there's barely even a use for boarding parties. At least as I see it.
By the by, the shuttles wouldn't actually be able to make it through to the ship at all until there was a shield down, anyway. You know, if actual physics applied in MMO World... (this is canon from as early as ST V: TFF, a shuttle cannot approach a ship while its shields are up).
But didn't they send a shuttle through a shield in 'The Best of Both Worlds'?
In canon, the Borg don't use standard shields on their ships, per se. The regenerative ability of their ships is considered adequate, plus they can tune their hull to repel weapons damage of that same type, much like the individual drones can ("Q Who?"). The Federation eventually, and obviously, found ways to delay or negate that modulation, but the fact remains... they don't use defensive shields.
They did, however, use a low-intensity subspace (or possibly magnetic.. been a while since I watched that episode) field to prevent unwanted transporter activity to their ship in TBoBW Pt 2. This field was bypassed via shuttle, as it could not stop regular matter, only low-intensity signal energy. Communications, transporters, that sort of thing. That's why the shuttle had to clear the field a second time once they had Locutus in hand.
So, yeah. Apples and oranges.
Just my $2.50.
How do the boarding parties get from their shuttlecraft onto the enemy ship??? Is that explained? Do they yell "trick or treat" and the enemy ship's shuttle bay opens, then closes, then pressurizes so they can jump out and surprise the enemy crew?
If you could beam a boarding party aboard an enemy ship you could beam anything aboard - like say a 20 megaton thermonuclear warhead or a few containers of nerve agent - right? Conversely, you could beam anything off the enemy ship and rematerialize it anywhere within range, for example you could beam off the enemy bridge crew and rematerialize them in open space.
All damaged ships still have gravity and ample atmoshpere throughout. Atmoshpere of the same type, at the same atmospheric pressure. All the player species home planets have roughly the same gravity. A species like the Gorns didn't grow up on a planet with twice earth gravity or something like that, which their ships might also have just to keep the owning species comfortable.
Boarding parties, being a common tactic in wartime, wouldn't result in certain defensive measures being designed into warships, particularly in sensitive areas like engineering, bridge, auxillary bridge, etc?
A ship like a BoP with a small crew would send a boarding party (half the BoP crew) onto a full-sized cruiser with what expectations?
Technically, if you could get a shuttlecraft inside the shields of a ship, they could use the transporter inside the shuttle to beam aboard the enemy vessel. Alternatively, they could use the Type 4 phaser array the normal shuttlecraft are armed with to destroy the shuttlebay doors of the enemy ship and force their way into the shuttlebay. However, some ships just do not have shuttlebays, so that wouldn't always be an option.
That is, if a shuttlecraft could actually make it inside the shields of ship. Which they can't. Except in this game.
This has always been a question plaguing use of boarding parties via shuttlecraft. That's why Starfleet Battles/Starfleet Command boarding actions were always done via transporter raids. Boarding action in the midst of combat via shuttlecraft just isn't feasible. Erratic manuevers would prevent even skilled pilots from boarding, even if there wasn't the problem of getting the craft inside the shields.
Too true.
Eh... I'd love to see your explaination of boarding actions if the Tholians were in the game.
Another mechanic that lacks inside the game. It's assumed automatically that the boardee's ship will attempt to repel boarders. Back in Starfleet Battles days, players had to assign BPs to specific high-value targets, in case an enemy ship attempted a H&R against those areas. Incredibly shrewed players would, instead, send BPs to hit low-value targets, say Auxiliary Power Plants or Science Labs, and not waste a BP against a guarded target, while still damaging the ship in some capacity. However, with generalized game mechanics, and random effects, takes that aspect out of it.
There really wouldn't be much expectation. Then again, BoPs usually have a crew complement of 12 officers and men. And in regards to this game's mechanics, they have no shuttlebay at all, so they really shouldn't even be able to send a boarding party.
We're both SFB players. :cool: Where are the suicide shuttles and scatter packs?
Let's see, shuttlecraft gets inside shields of ship. Ship immediately uses its transporters to beam occupants of shuttlecraft to brig, open space or wherever. Or beams it's own boarding party onto shutlecraft. Or beams a nuclear device/nerve agent onto shuttlecraft. Supposing shuttlecraft manages to get inside ship's shields and transports boarding party, what is preventing ship from re-transporting the boarding party elsewhere?
Okay, the shuttlecraft destroys the shuttlecraft bay doors and scoots inside. But then there is no atmosphere in the shuttle bay. Gotta have space suits, and an air lock, to get from the unpressurized shuttle bay into the pressurized interior of the ship where all the juicy sub-systems are waiting to be taken out. Before the ship's crew, which greatly outnumbers the boarding party, figures out what's going on.
Yeah, the whole boarding party ploy is a suicide mission with a very low probability of success. One of those tactics that only works in movies and MMOs.
Man, I'd settle for a WW for those damned HPTs, I tell you what! >.<
All the above, absolutely true. There'd just be no way that shuttlecraft could be used for boarding actions mid combat. Unless they were equipped with personal transport inhibitors they could toggle. Of course, that doesn't stop the boardee's ship from intercepting the matter stream, then scattering it in space.
And yeah, sure, could happen from ship-to-ship transport, too, but a transporter operator's not going to respond quick enough to that, as they would to sensors seeing three shuttles on an intercept course.