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Thanks for the marathon of it, devs. 
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*soft applauds*
I can almost get over number one. But really the whole time plots are just killing me they have been done to death.
Very much agree with your number 2.
Yeah Time plots are what made me give up on voyager. I mean really they had a whole season worth of eps that basically never happened becuase of time travel. Lately the Temporal Plot Device (TPD) seems to be there go to for a lot of things these days.
Want to run a story that will kill of someone but you don't want to really kill them off? TPD!
Want to blow up the ship by ramming the bad guy? No worry TPD!
Want to redo the whole thing over? TPD it is!
Enterprise NX-01
Akira class
Enterprise NX-01 blueprint
Akira class blueprint
Yes, their pylon and hull design is similar in that two separated beams support the drive section, but that's where the similarities end.
Oh right they are completely different I can see now how the Enterprise looks totally like something that was built before the TOS. I mean really it looks so much like a prototype that would lead to everything seen in the TOS and original films.
No this is my issue. The tv show was made after TNG/First Contact when the akira came out. The art team could have tried to make something that look more dated and flowed better into TOS as it was seen. Instead they opted to use something that looked cool. I mean even in First Contact the prototype at lest looked like it could be the design that would lead to big ships along the same line.
The Enterprise looks not like a prototype from the past but something that is more at home in TNG/DS9/Voy. That really my issue.
That is also why I said I can get over it and number 2 time plots was my main reason for not getting into the series.
But the design DOES lend itself to later models. Compare the similarities between NX-01 and NCC-1701. Long, narrow prominent struts that rise high over the saucer. Simple cylindrical nacelles. A rough hull, more lending itself to present technology than the sleek designs of the 24th century. The only thing that looks more "futuristic" than the Constitution class is the way the top decks of the saucer round off, much like the Galaxy class, but we can chalk that up to better CGI effects.
I think the designers did a spectacular job with NX-01, but it may seem out of place simply because the CGI effects are decades ahead of those in TOS (that is to say, nonexistant in TOS). But what were they going to do, use a crappy model and virtually no CGI just to make it seem "more primitive than TOS?" That'd be stupid.
too bad you didn't
Not really. NX-01 looks very much like like a TNG+ design that's been down rated to TOS styling. The issue to me, it that she looks MORE modern than NCC-1701. It's an issue I can forgive, because if they'd made something that look truly pre-TOS, it would have just looked stupid.
That said, I was never happy with the Akira Class "throw forward." The Akira is an awesome ship design. With a little stylistic updating, she could easily be the star of a post TNG series. I wouldn't mind seeing an updated concept in the reboot style. But Enterprise should have new. something we hadn't seen before. The producers tried to conjure off of the popularity of the Akira, and that was mistake.
I remember reading TV guide, when they discussed the mild weakness in DS9's ratings and the decision to give the show a starship to punch things up a bit. Then a month or two later, there was an article on that starship. I remember thinking, "this is too different, it's not very Trek." The Defiant turned out to be liquid awesome.
Enterprise's producers were not limited to fan expectations, even those of us who were hoping for some miracle where they made a throw back that didn't actually look so dated as to ruin the suspension of disbelief. And if NX-01 had been the kind of awesome that Defiant was, I suspect we could have forgiven her for looking as she did. (Note, I don't mean as powerful as Defiant. With NX-01 they should have gone, IMO, with a nod to the Millennium Falcon. Rather than making her weak compared to everything else in space they should have made her slightly more powerful, in many respects. And she should have had interesting, and drama raising break downs from being a bit too advanced.)
Don't get me wrong. I don't hate Enterprise. She's not a bad looking ship. But like Defiant, she has issues, and the production team didn't giver her enough awesome or personality to overcome those issues.
Some like it and some don't.
Thank hell that people have different opinion or we would all be wearing the same clothes, watch the same shows, buy the same things... Kinda like *insert something about Apple here*.
Apparently you didn't see the final episode of Enterprise.
if its not broke, dont fix it.
Even I had the brains to understand why they did that.
And the nx-01 was a stable, reliable ship, just like every other enterprise.
DS9 is deep (and in space at night XD), but also often boring..
and Enterprise is what I call a great, fun and exciting contemporary TV series, with a succesfull main cast full of stoy, and plots that leave any other long plot in any Star Trek series in a very bad place, not to talk about the action secuences, which seemed coreographed by 5 year old kids in TNG, VOY and DS9, but in Enterprise are uber-cool.
And I love all of Star Trek like cracy, but I have to be realistic also.
Not every TV show is enjoyable. Not all Treks were create equal. I gave Enterprise a chance, it didn't work out. I don't regularly pan it by saying it shouldn't have been made.
Nor do I think my distaste for it is some kind of universal law. It's an opinion, and like waste elimination orifices, everyone's got one. Discussing the merits and flaws (flaws mostly in here, but hey) of a bit of fiction is valid activity.
I'm occasionally a writer. Suspension of disbelief is not the audience's job. Most come into a story with disbelief already suspended. It's up to the story tellers to maintain it, which is why the topic, when taught to writers is called "Maintaining Suspension of Disbelief."
Also: "Can we all get along?"
The theme song does bug the hell out of me. It's the least "Trek" theme song in a Trek series. But I can get past that and still thoroughly enjoy the show, since the theme song really has no bearing on the show itself.
I think Reality TV sucks. It's massive success suggests mine is a minority view. Does it then follow that it sucks that a minority think reality TV sucks?
I rather think not.
My hobby: Rational replies to flame bait.
I liked the theme song. I noticed they changed the musical arrangement in later seasons, which I saw very little of. I thought that was step backward.
Altho the Xindi Saga is some of the best Trek ever IMO.
If you listen to the words to the song, they are uplifting and inspiring in a TOTALLY Star Trek way. It's all about man's belief in growing and learning - and fits perfectly as the song for the prequel.