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jake477jake477 Member Posts: 527 Arc User
With Star Trek Picard fast approaching and the potential of seeing up to 3 Enterprises (D-F). What is your favorite Enterprise from the franchise (this includes any alternate universe Enterprises). Each ship that has carried the name is just as much a character herself as any actor.

My personal favorite Enterprise is the NX-01. A gorgeous design for 22nd Century Starfleet, she stands out in the crowd. The first ship to carry the name and the first ship to literally lived up to the motto that Star Trek was made famous for. This ship may not have been as flashy or as powerful but I would argue she has to be one the toughest ships ever created. Enterprise fought in 2 major conflicts against two very overpowered species. (Romulans and Xindi) Made First Contact with the founding members of the future Federation. Encountered the Borg, Elachi and many of the species Starfleet of the 23rd and 24th Century see on a daily basis. The NX class helped make Earth stand out and be independent from her allies all at the same time. The NX is so timeless she was the basis of creating the modern Akira Class in the 24th Century.

Sure the others have the fancy holodecks, quantum torpedoes, and saucer separation, but none of them can say they were first. In Starfleet, being first in exploration is more prized than even the Big Chair.
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    timelords1701timelords1701 Member Posts: 556 Arc User
    For me its the Galaxy Class Enterprise D.
    The first time i watched the next gen episode encounter at farpoint back in 87, i said to myself, now thats one hell of a starship..
    Loved the sovereign class as well as the Enterprise A.
    But the D gets my vote of all time personal favorite.
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,395 Arc User
    I'll always have a soft spot for the Grand Old Lady ("no bloody A, B, C, *or* D") - there's nothing like your first - but I quite like the look of the Discoprise.
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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,540 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I'll always have a soft spot for the Grand Old Lady ("no bloody A, B, C, *or* D") - there's nothing like your first - but I quite like the look of the Discoprise.

    Second this. He's correct here. As per usual.
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    nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    The J, followed by the AGT Ent-D.

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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,129 Community Moderator
    I could always be that guy and do something off the wall...
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    Like this Enterprise. lol



    Anyways... I've always been partial to the A, even though I grew up with the D. Also really love the E and the DSC Connie.
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    wherrold#3824 wherrold Member Posts: 28 Arc User
    The nuclear wessel from Star Trek IV was beautiful!
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    fred26291#2759 fred26291 Member Posts: 1,274 Arc User
    I have always like the Constitution Class and the Movie Upgrade to that ship.
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    khan5000khan5000 Member Posts: 3,007 Arc User
    The movie refit, SNW version, the Kelvinprise and the Ent-E are my faves.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
    The TOS Enterprise, none of the others come close.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,293 Arc User
    While I can appreciate the original and refit versions, I was born in 1982 so ENT-D will always be "the Enterprise" for me.
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,293 Arc User
    The nuclear wessel from Star Trek IV was beautiful!

    Ironically that's the USS Ranger (CV-61), USS Enterprise (CVN-65) was not available and the Ranger looked "close enough" to be used as stand in. Though obviously in story it's the CVN-65 they raid (starting with the fact that Ranger was non-nuclear carrier).

    They wanted to use the actual USS Enterprise, but it was on deployment at the time of shooting so that wasn't possible.
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,395 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    The nuclear wessel from Star Trek IV was beautiful!

    Ironically that's the USS Ranger (CV-61), USS Enterprise (CVN-65) was not available and the Ranger looked "close enough" to be used as stand in. Though obviously in story it's the CVN-65 they raid (starting with the fact that Ranger was non-nuclear carrier).

    They wanted to use the actual USS Enterprise, but it was on deployment at the time of shooting so that wasn't possible.
    Meanwhile, the Ranger was the Navy's stand-in for any aircraft carrier in any show or movie. My father-in-law was aboard the Ranger during the filming of Top Gun. He was singularly unimpressed with Tom Cruise as a person.

    And I'm afraid they'd have been disappointed if they'd filmed aboard the actual Enterprise - access to the reactor rooms is tightly controlled, and there's pretty much no way they'd have gotten clearance for an entire film crew. They'd still have had to build a reactor-room set. (My brother was a nuke operator in the Navy, and tells me that the real reactor rooms also look more like a power switching station than what we see in the movie anyway - there's no direct access to the reactor chamber, for instance, because why would there be?)
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    paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,800 Arc User
    TOS, also the Terran version of the TOS one as well.
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    hawku001xhawku001x Member Posts: 10,761 Arc User
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    I like the Enterprise-E. It's sleek, like you could install a Slip 'N Slide on its back and just go for it.
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    fltcaptalanfltcaptalan Member Posts: 47 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I could always be that guy and do something off the wall...
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    Like this Enterprise. lol

    Well she is the personification of the ship that truly fits the quote "Let's make sure history never forgets the name...Enterprise."

    Aside from the one that shouldn't have sent to the scrappers, the TMP Connie, the B, E, and the F are probably my favorites
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    jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,395 Arc User
    CVN-65 had to be scrapped, though. She was the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, being constructed in 1958-61, with eight nuclear fission reactors. The only way to remove the reactors when she was decommissioned was to cut through her hull. And you wouldn't want to leave fission reactors that are older than I am just sitting there in some kind of museum ship - that's asking for trouble.
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    captan2er0captan2er0 Member Posts: 836 Arc User
    I've got a soft spot for the Enterprise-C as my second favorite Trek Enterprise, but the Connie Refit will always be my favorite. Though if we're talkin' non-fictional, OV-101 for me hands down. Wouldn't be where I am today without the inspiration that stemmed from her and her sisters.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,129 Community Moderator
    jonsills wrote: »
    CVN-65 had to be scrapped, though. She was the first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, being constructed in 1958-61, with eight nuclear fission reactors. The only way to remove the reactors when she was decommissioned was to cut through her hull. And you wouldn't want to leave fission reactors that are older than I am just sitting there in some kind of museum ship - that's asking for trouble.

    Well Enterprise in Azur Lane isn't CVN-65. She's CV-6. And I've heard that some parts of CV-6 were used in CVN-65, which in turn are being used for CVN-80. it would have been nice if the Grey Ghost was preserved though due to her historical significance.
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    thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,540 Arc User
    CV-6 will ALWAYS be the Baddest of the Bad, Enterprise-wise
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    evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    jake477 wrote: »
    What is your favorite Enterprise from the franchise

    After thinking about this question for a few minutes, I decided to do a full tier list 🤣

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    annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,622 Arc User
    Refit. when I finally saw her on the big screen, I cried
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,993 Arc User
    The E, enough said.

    The TOS Connie is ugly and lacking any detail, the Discovery and SNW Enterprise is a vast improvement.
    I like detail and the TOS Connie is my worst Enterprise on any list for the lack of any detail on the hull and it's ugly design.
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      saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,401 Arc User
      It's hard for me to pick just one because I feel several of them have some serious arguments for the S+ tier.

      But I'd say the original but with its Donnie appearance is slightly higher than the rest for almost all criteria, especially being the very first and all the efforts to make her a character by herself, with the D and NX right behind.

      The NX for the whole "first and experimenting with everything possible as time goes" and the D for the memorable encounters it was part of and its actions in
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      phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
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      The E, enough said.

      The TOS Connie is ugly and lacking any detail, the Discovery and SNW Enterprise is a vast improvement.
      I like detail and the TOS Connie is my worst Enterprise on any list for the lack of any detail on the hull and it's ugly design.

      It is funny how people look for different things when judging stuff like this. I prefer the TOS connie for pretty much the same reasons you dislike it. I look at it from a practical engineering standpoint and the TOS Enterprise makes the most sense, and what you call "ugly and lacking any detail" I call "sleek".

      Like Matt Jefferies pointed out, the ship was heavily armored and it does not make sense to have a bunch of stuff stuck out on the surface of that armor. The "boring white" color as some call it wasn't even paint, it was a tough ceramic coating to help keep micrometeoroid wear on the hull to a minimum. The only bare parts were the gold-colored ones that were supposed to be bare for signal-propagation reasons like the deflector dish/choke ring antenna assembly on the front of the secondary hull and the armored baffles protecting the plasma conduits (the things that have to be able to "see" each other according to Rodenberry's rules) on the inboard sides of the warp nacelles.

      While a bit of subtle azteching is not a bad thing it would not have been visible on 1960s TV and in fact the big model had greenish grunge streaks, little numbers and other cryptic markings, details that never showed up no matter how close the camera got or how they tried to light it so they would show.

      If you look at the interior sets you can see that what so many people think are windows actually are not, with one exception there is no sign whatsoever of windows (even ones with armored covers shut) on the inside of the places were those lights are on the outside. In fact, behind the scenes they were simply called "window-like lights", and in convention panels they were said to be sensor emplacements like the two big square ones on the dorsal side of the saucer. In fact, in The Conscience of the King Kirk mentions to Lenore that they were standing in the only place on the ship that you can look out on the stars directly (they were on one of the shuttlebay catwalks).

      Personally, I like the googie style of the TOS ship a lot better than the art deco of the later ships. I understand that a lot of people are put off by the euler spiral curves and golden ratio angles and proportions of the ship (probably since those are organic visual cues on a machine) but they are a refreshing change of pace from the industrial art deco aesthetic that most Hollywood sci-fi uses.
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      theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,993 Arc User
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      The E, enough said.

      The TOS Connie is ugly and lacking any detail, the Discovery and SNW Enterprise is a vast improvement.
      I like detail and the TOS Connie is my worst Enterprise on any list for the lack of any detail on the hull and it's ugly design.

      It is funny how people look for different things when judging stuff like this. I prefer the TOS connie for pretty much the same reasons you dislike it. I look at it from a practical engineering standpoint and the TOS Enterprise makes the most sense, and what you call "ugly and lacking any detail" I call "sleek".

      Like Matt Jefferies pointed out, the ship was heavily armored and it does not make sense to have a bunch of stuff stuck out on the surface of that armor. The "boring white" color as some call it wasn't even paint, it was a tough ceramic coating to help keep micrometeoroid wear on the hull to a minimum. The only bare parts were the gold-colored ones that were supposed to be bare for signal-propagation reasons like the deflector dish/choke ring antenna assembly on the front of the secondary hull and the armored baffles protecting the plasma conduits (the things that have to be able to "see" each other according to Rodenberry's rules) on the inboard sides of the warp nacelles.

      While a bit of subtle azteching is not a bad thing it would not have been visible on 1960s TV and in fact the big model had greenish grunge streaks, little numbers and other cryptic markings, details that never showed up no matter how close the camera got or how they tried to light it so they would show.

      If you look at the interior sets you can see that what so many people think are windows actually are not, with one exception there is no sign whatsoever of windows (even ones with armored covers shut) on the inside of the places were those lights are on the outside. In fact, behind the scenes they were simply called "window-like lights", and in convention panels they were said to be sensor emplacements like the two big square ones on the dorsal side of the saucer. In fact, in The Conscience of the King Kirk mentions to Lenore that they were standing in the only place on the ship that you can look out on the stars directly (they were on one of the shuttlebay catwalks).

      Personally, I like the googie style of the TOS ship a lot better than the art deco of the later ships. I understand that a lot of people are put off by the euler spiral curves and golden ratio angles and proportions of the ship (probably since those are organic visual cues on a machine) but they are a refreshing change of pace from the industrial art deco aesthetic that most Hollywood sci-fi uses.

      It's the neck that spoils it, the angle could be a lot better like the on the Reimagined Connie from Discovery and SNW.
      The neck's odd angle just puts me off. I've always liked ships with that more industrial look to them on the detail.
      From an engineering viewpoint, I prefer the E because that vulnerable neck has been eliminated entirely and the E is sleeker in appearance while being a very capable design.
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        phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,612 Arc User
        The E, enough said.

        The TOS Connie is ugly and lacking any detail, the Discovery and SNW Enterprise is a vast improvement.
        I like detail and the TOS Connie is my worst Enterprise on any list for the lack of any detail on the hull and it's ugly design.

        It is funny how people look for different things when judging stuff like this. I prefer the TOS connie for pretty much the same reasons you dislike it. I look at it from a practical engineering standpoint and the TOS Enterprise makes the most sense, and what you call "ugly and lacking any detail" I call "sleek".

        Like Matt Jefferies pointed out, the ship was heavily armored and it does not make sense to have a bunch of stuff stuck out on the surface of that armor. The "boring white" color as some call it wasn't even paint, it was a tough ceramic coating to help keep micrometeoroid wear on the hull to a minimum. The only bare parts were the gold-colored ones that were supposed to be bare for signal-propagation reasons like the deflector dish/choke ring antenna assembly on the front of the secondary hull and the armored baffles protecting the plasma conduits (the things that have to be able to "see" each other according to Rodenberry's rules) on the inboard sides of the warp nacelles.

        While a bit of subtle azteching is not a bad thing it would not have been visible on 1960s TV and in fact the big model had greenish grunge streaks, little numbers and other cryptic markings, details that never showed up no matter how close the camera got or how they tried to light it so they would show.

        If you look at the interior sets you can see that what so many people think are windows actually are not, with one exception there is no sign whatsoever of windows (even ones with armored covers shut) on the inside of the places were those lights are on the outside. In fact, behind the scenes they were simply called "window-like lights", and in convention panels they were said to be sensor emplacements like the two big square ones on the dorsal side of the saucer. In fact, in The Conscience of the King Kirk mentions to Lenore that they were standing in the only place on the ship that you can look out on the stars directly (they were on one of the shuttlebay catwalks).

        Personally, I like the googie style of the TOS ship a lot better than the art deco of the later ships. I understand that a lot of people are put off by the euler spiral curves and golden ratio angles and proportions of the ship (probably since those are organic visual cues on a machine) but they are a refreshing change of pace from the industrial art deco aesthetic that most Hollywood sci-fi uses.

        It's the neck that spoils it, the angle could be a lot better like the on the Reimagined Connie from Discovery and SNW.
        The neck's odd angle just puts me off. I've always liked ships with that more industrial look to them on the detail.
        From an engineering viewpoint, I prefer the E because that vulnerable neck has been eliminated entirely and the E is sleeker in appearance while being a very capable design.

        The illusion of fragileness and a sense of amazement that the (often soaring and graceful) structure does not collapse under its own weight is a big part of the googie aesthetic. The reality is that most of the time buildings and bridges and whatnot are really held up by spindly looking steel beams, but they put fake stone cylinders or concrete around the beams to look like stone columns or whatever to make them look more massive.

        Googie style usually leaves the false plumping out of the structural members (and often adds lightweight false bulk with metal sheeting or the like in unexpected non-structural parts further up in the structure, or by cantilevering sections in unexpected ways), so despite the illusion, the buildings and bridges and whatnot made in the style are as safe as other, chunkier and squatter, styles but look like there is nothing much holding them up.

        Jefferies himself said in numerous interviews and panels that the neck is a lot tougher than it looks and it would actually be easier to cut off a section of the saucer than it would be to slice through the neck. There are no walk-around decks in the neck, it is all armor, structural elements, turbolift shafts, piping and wiring, with only maintenance tubes and crawlspaces to service them. It is a lot denser than anything except other cramped engineering-only spaces like the nacelles and struts.

        A bit of trivia, in Journey to Babel the jefferies tube that Gav was found hanging out of was one that went up the neck according to the script.

        As for the angle (and partly the length) of the neck, googie often uses organic curves and angles instead of mechanistic ones and Jefferies used that to give the ship a slightly 'alien' and futuristic look. The result just looks wrong if you are expecting the usual industrial angles, and that is what gives it that unique, faintly disturbing, slightly alien-yet-familiar feel.

        The length of the neck is part of the golden ratio proportions of the design, along with bringing the impulse engines into the center-of-balance line of the ship (the nacelles are supposed to be massively heavy despite their size compared to the hull) and adds to the overall feel of the look described above. Personally, I like the look, but everyone's tastes are different.
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        rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,129 Community Moderator
        In space, weight means nothing to structure. MASS on the other hand...
        Personally I prefer the TMP or DSC variant of the Connie, but we wouldn't be here discussing any of this without the original.
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        theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,993 Arc User
        The E, enough said.

        The TOS Connie is ugly and lacking any detail, the Discovery and SNW Enterprise is a vast improvement.
        I like detail and the TOS Connie is my worst Enterprise on any list for the lack of any detail on the hull and it's ugly design.

        It is funny how people look for different things when judging stuff like this. I prefer the TOS connie for pretty much the same reasons you dislike it. I look at it from a practical engineering standpoint and the TOS Enterprise makes the most sense, and what you call "ugly and lacking any detail" I call "sleek".

        Like Matt Jefferies pointed out, the ship was heavily armored and it does not make sense to have a bunch of stuff stuck out on the surface of that armor. The "boring white" color as some call it wasn't even paint, it was a tough ceramic coating to help keep micrometeoroid wear on the hull to a minimum. The only bare parts were the gold-colored ones that were supposed to be bare for signal-propagation reasons like the deflector dish/choke ring antenna assembly on the front of the secondary hull and the armored baffles protecting the plasma conduits (the things that have to be able to "see" each other according to Rodenberry's rules) on the inboard sides of the warp nacelles.

        While a bit of subtle azteching is not a bad thing it would not have been visible on 1960s TV and in fact the big model had greenish grunge streaks, little numbers and other cryptic markings, details that never showed up no matter how close the camera got or how they tried to light it so they would show.

        If you look at the interior sets you can see that what so many people think are windows actually are not, with one exception there is no sign whatsoever of windows (even ones with armored covers shut) on the inside of the places were those lights are on the outside. In fact, behind the scenes they were simply called "window-like lights", and in convention panels they were said to be sensor emplacements like the two big square ones on the dorsal side of the saucer. In fact, in The Conscience of the King Kirk mentions to Lenore that they were standing in the only place on the ship that you can look out on the stars directly (they were on one of the shuttlebay catwalks).

        Personally, I like the googie style of the TOS ship a lot better than the art deco of the later ships. I understand that a lot of people are put off by the euler spiral curves and golden ratio angles and proportions of the ship (probably since those are organic visual cues on a machine) but they are a refreshing change of pace from the industrial art deco aesthetic that most Hollywood sci-fi uses.

        It's the neck that spoils it, the angle could be a lot better like the on the Reimagined Connie from Discovery and SNW.
        The neck's odd angle just puts me off. I've always liked ships with that more industrial look to them on the detail.
        From an engineering viewpoint, I prefer the E because that vulnerable neck has been eliminated entirely and the E is sleeker in appearance while being a very capable design.

        The illusion of fragileness and a sense of amazement that the (often soaring and graceful) structure does not collapse under its own weight is a big part of the googie aesthetic. The reality is that most of the time buildings and bridges and whatnot are really held up by spindly looking steel beams, but they put fake stone cylinders or concrete around the beams to look like stone columns or whatever to make them look more massive.

        Googie style usually leaves the false plumping out of the structural members (and often adds lightweight false bulk with metal sheeting or the like in unexpected non-structural parts further up in the structure, or by cantilevering sections in unexpected ways), so despite the illusion, the buildings and bridges and whatnot made in the style are as safe as other, chunkier and squatter, styles but look like there is nothing much holding them up.

        Jefferies himself said in numerous interviews and panels that the neck is a lot tougher than it looks and it would actually be easier to cut off a section of the saucer than it would be to slice through the neck. There are no walk-around decks in the neck, it is all armor, structural elements, turbolift shafts, piping and wiring, with only maintenance tubes and crawlspaces to service them. It is a lot denser than anything except other cramped engineering-only spaces like the nacelles and struts.

        A bit of trivia, in Journey to Babel the jefferies tube that Gav was found hanging out of was one that went up the neck according to the script.

        As for the angle (and partly the length) of the neck, googie often uses organic curves and angles instead of mechanistic ones and Jefferies used that to give the ship a slightly 'alien' and futuristic look. The result just looks wrong if you are expecting the usual industrial angles, and that is what gives it that unique, faintly disturbing, slightly alien-yet-familiar feel.

        The length of the neck is part of the golden ratio proportions of the design, along with bringing the impulse engines into the center-of-balance line of the ship (the nacelles are supposed to be massively heavy despite their size compared to the hull) and adds to the overall feel of the look described above. Personally, I like the look, but everyone's tastes are different.

        I've always been more streamlined in my tastes. While the E would not be possible without the original, she's aerodynamic and that profile is more efficient for faster warp travel.
        End of the day, it's each to their own on taste.
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