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Is it a good deal? Maybe, if you want the ship(s) and were tempted to go on a gamble box opening spree to get one.
Is Cryptic giving us what we asked for many times, a way to get the ships without gambling? Yes, though people would be happier if they also had the choice to buy single ships. Those would be at a higher price though, since Cryptic can more easily justify lost gamble box revenue by making you spend $150 for 3.
As for the three faction ships. They are some of the least used ships in the game... I can't imagine Cryptic is going to sell a ton of this pack. The Crossfield... has what THREE updated versions in game at this point... a refit, a Terran... and a legendary. The ship of the dead... haven't even seen Role players using it. The Romulan ship is also forgettable.
At some point Cryptic is going to drop another Mudd pack I'll have to buy. This isn't one of them. 4 so so ships... 2 of which already have superior legendries. (and I have to assume most of us that buy mudd packs also buy leg packs)
As for them releasing these ships in expensive packs: at least players now (should) have little reason to complain about gambling boxes.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
No. They can not justify these prices. At all.
The barge of the dead is the only ship in there i find remotely interesting thus this pack is not good value for me.
That's subjective though. I think paying $180 a year every year for WoW or SWTOR or Elder Scrolls is too much but that's just me. I'd also never pay $1,000+ to attend one championship sportsbowl game while other people do every year. Their fun is not wrong.
A bit less since for $200 you get 23000 zen and $50 gets 5300 zen so just under $270 at normal zen prices. They do have 20% off sales on top of that now and then.
That's if you buy it list price which is madness for Mudds Market. The initial price is 50% off or $150 if you buy the zen right now.
JHRS: Why wasn't this just packaged with the JHSS as a 2 in 1 choice option for that bundle? The two ships are identical except for the seating. Complete waste of a Mudd Bundle slot if you ask me.
Crossfield: If I liked the Crossfield Class I'd be tempted to get this to use instead of the Legendary that I own just for the 4/3 weapons layout ... but I DON'T like the Crossfield so no thanks.
Sarcophagus: I would never use that hideous thing for any reason whatsoever.
Dhailkhina Warbird: It's an OK looking ship, doesn't blow me away but it's not hideous either. Trait looks interesting. Would only pick it up if it was bundled with other ships that I actually did want.
Their asking prices are completely arbitrary, and scarcity is artificial. Whether Cryptic sells 10 or a 1.000 copies of the same ship, the base costs to create the asset remain unchanged. And they can copy it as many times as they like. As such, every additional sale, at any price, means more profit at zero additional costs. In that light, demanding 3 times the price of a AAA game for assets created years ago seems more like daylight robbery to me.
Keep in mind, these are account-wide unlocks.
And Dave is correct in stating that those ships are already a lot cheaper than previously.
They can't lower the prices even more compared to boxed ships, or no one would buy those anymore. And whether you think that's a good thing or not, it would mean less revenue for the game and that would, in the end, be good for nobody here.
Not totally arbitrary. And of course they could sell even more copies of this particular pack, but that wasn't necessarily true for the original packs these ships first appeared in. More exclusive can also mean more valuable to those considering getting those ships from a gamble box. That determined the price of the original items, and they have to avoid devaluing their gamble boxes too much.
Since these are all re-releases of products that were even more expensive as well as limited in the past, they cannot choose whatever price they like.
I can see why people think these asking prices are too high, I don't necessarily disagree with that. That's just the opinion of us as customers though, it doesn't mean they're arbitrary and that there is no justification for them.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I get that they need to make money, but I'd be ahsamed to put those prices up, unless any attempted purchase is denied with a Mudd-like quib and a disclaimer that you can only buy this stuff "on sale" when they unlock the purchase.
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> I am very curious if any poor soul decides to buy one of these packs for the listing price of 600 dollars - would they refund it, because it's fun and "you are not supposed to buy them at this price" or is this simply a no-effort trap for some clumsy whale?
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> I get that they need to make money, but I'd be ahsamed to put those prices up, unless any attempted purchase is denied with a Mudd-like quib and a disclaimer that you can only buy this stuff "on sale" when they unlock the purchase.
Well the narrative that you will often hear on the forum is that Cryptic planned to only offer the Mudd’s content at the sale price, but because of fears of false advertising they were forced to also make it available at the “joke” price. But we were all there when it went down—and that is not how I remember it. I think they always intended to sell the things at full price.
Besides if Cryptic was worried about false advertising they would fix the blogs, and broken bridges. They would change the listing of the EV suit in the Vesta bundle, etc.
It is hard for a consumer to win a false advertising lawsuit if one actually happened anyway. An advertisement isn’t a legally binding contract:
https://thehustle.co/leonard-v-pepsi-harrier-jet-lawsuit/?utm_source=digg&
I'm sure a couple people do, but anyone who does do that is probably well off enough that the price doesn't matter to them.
When Mudd's first launched the mentions of legal issues that I saw all referred to EU consumer protections laws, not US law. Idk the particulars of it, but Cryptic would need to obey the laws of every country it's offering the game in, not just US law.
If Elon Musk started playing STO he'd probably buy all the things at the insane list prices. Why wait for a sale if there is no difference between $300 and $600 at your wealth level? Then have an assistant spend hours opening thousands of gamble boxes to get all of those ships.
Me, I'm cheap. I'd wait for a sale on zen to get that discount, then stack it with a sale on the ships. Or most of the time, spend $0 and skip it entirely. Then do the 5-event grind for the free ship.
Just because I understand the business reasons for Mudd's bundles doesn't mean I'm rushing to buy them