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chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
So i logged on a few min ago and first thing i checked was to see if daily event had reset yet, apparently it has 19hrs 59min left and have done it twice,(thats what it said after first check) err no I haven't, has game given me a free day or is something screwy going on. This another "feature"?
Its like the game completed the daily when i logged on

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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    Last year I noticed that in some cases the "daily progress" was showing up as an inventory item... maybe you had one and it applied itself when you logged on.
  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    i don't think so as the character I logged in on first was only made this year and first time at winter event for it was yesterday, could be the game gave me credit for yesterday and put and inventory item that i didn't notice, which then applied today when I logged on today., Guess I will see what happens tomorrow.

    Soft Tribble Warm Tribble, Little ball of fur, Happy Tribble, Sleepy Tribble, Purr Purr Purr
    Hard Gorny, Cold Gorny, Big Ball of Scales, Angry Gorny, Fighty Gorny, Hiss, Hiss Hisssss
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    chanfron66 wrote: »
    i don't think so as the character I logged in on first was only made this year and first time at winter event for it was yesterday, could be the game gave me credit for yesterday and put and inventory item that i didn't notice, which then applied today when I logged on today., Guess I will see what happens tomorrow.

    That was what I meant. Perhaps you had a "daily progress" inventory item from yesterday.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,076 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    This game has the occasional problem of data being written to the wrong memory addresses. Like, until a couple days ago (the rep got maxed out), a newer character of mine had a reputation level that ended with 10. Which is impossible, since there's no way to get just 10 points of reputation progress. Unless the server ****ed up. Which it did. Another one, and this one happened pretty frequently to me -- reps that had never been leveled to 5 on an alt account were suddenly being treated as though they had sponsorship status (rewarding double rep progress)...on every character on that account. And again, nobody on that account had rank 5 yet to unlock sponsorship status. And multiple reps had this happen.

    Like everything else about STO, event progress can be buggy. It is not an exaggeration to say that STO is one of the buggiest games I've ever played.
  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    I might have figured it out, earlier on I did Krampy and got a small popup on screen saying Gold daily reward, there is nothing in my inventory and am sure got the same yesterday, if same thing happens tomorrow then that might be it.

    Soft Tribble Warm Tribble, Little ball of fur, Happy Tribble, Sleepy Tribble, Purr Purr Purr
    Hard Gorny, Cold Gorny, Big Ball of Scales, Angry Gorny, Fighty Gorny, Hiss, Hiss Hisssss
  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    timer has reset and was ready to go today, so dont know if that was it, will see
    edit, this is what I get when doing kramp tox56IN.jpg that was after doing fastest game on ice to do the daily.


    Soft Tribble Warm Tribble, Little ball of fur, Happy Tribble, Sleepy Tribble, Purr Purr Purr
    Hard Gorny, Cold Gorny, Big Ball of Scales, Angry Gorny, Fighty Gorny, Hiss, Hiss Hisssss
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    Yeah check your inventory... I've seen that hourglass icon show up there as an inventory item.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,670 Community Moderator
    I can pass this up the chain if you'd like.
    While a bit convenient, wouldn't be WAI and, well... can cause major confusion as we see here.

    The progress is on a 20 hour cooldown. So having an item appear and then get spent after 20 hours on its own... if that is what is happening... I'm not sure that is working properly.
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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,951 Arc User
    It is not an exaggeration to say that STO is one of the buggiest games I've ever played.

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  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    Yeah check your inventory... I've seen that hourglass icon show up there as an inventory item.

    Yeah, I did have a look just to make sure, can't see anything with that icon, will see what happens tomorrow as today was ok, might have just been some one off glitch.

    Has anyone else got this popup on krampy, I have done snowball fight, both races, ice fishing and ginger bread village and krampy was the only one to popup that message.

    Soft Tribble Warm Tribble, Little ball of fur, Happy Tribble, Sleepy Tribble, Purr Purr Purr
    Hard Gorny, Cold Gorny, Big Ball of Scales, Angry Gorny, Fighty Gorny, Hiss, Hiss Hisssss
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,328 Community Moderator
    If it does act weird definitely let us know
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I can pass this up the chain if you'd like.
    While a bit convenient, wouldn't be WAI and, well... can cause major confusion as we see here.

    The progress is on a 20 hour cooldown. So having an item appear and then get spent after 20 hours on its own... if that is what is happening... I'm not sure that is working properly.

    I got one of the hourglass-icon-as-inventory-items again today. My timer runs out in 5 hours from this post... will let you know if it gets auto used after that.

    (Sorry, don't know how to do screenshots... got a new keyboard with no printscreen button!)
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    chanfron66 wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    Yeah check your inventory... I've seen that hourglass icon show up there as an inventory item.

    Yeah, I did have a look just to make sure, can't see anything with that icon, will see what happens tomorrow as today was ok, might have just been some one off glitch.

    Has anyone else got this popup on krampy, I have done snowball fight, both races, ice fishing and ginger bread village and krampy was the only one to popup that message.

    Snowball Fight doesn't give daily progress.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I can pass this up the chain if you'd like.
    While a bit convenient, wouldn't be WAI and, well... can cause major confusion as we see here.

    The progress is on a 20 hour cooldown. So having an item appear and then get spent after 20 hours on its own... if that is what is happening... I'm not sure that is working properly.

    I got one of the hourglass-icon-as-inventory-items again today. My timer runs out in 5 hours from this post... will let you know if it gets auto used after that.

    (Sorry, don't know how to do screenshots... got a new keyboard with no printscreen button!)

    It did.
  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,721 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »

    (Sorry, don't know how to do screenshots... got a new keyboard with no printscreen button!)

    I found this for your problem:

    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/keyboard-shortcut-for-print-screen-601210c0-b3a9-7b58-bc40-bae4dcf5f108#:~:text=If your device does not,which can then be printed.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,670 Community Moderator
    @westmetals
    If you play through Steam, you can use Steam's screenshot key as well. Although I would recommend rebinding it as F12 (the default if I remember correctly) also has in game functionality involving the UI. I got my Steam screenshot key bound to Insert as, I know of no games that uses that key.

    And I will shoot this up the chain again. I had already notified Kael and the other mods that I was keeping an eye on this, hence darkblade's appearance. But now... yea... shooting it up the chain. That is WEIRD.
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  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,328 Community Moderator
    ideally if you guys can get some video of this happening that would be great, otherwise anything to demonstrate this where we can see it could be helpful.
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  • chanfron66chanfron66 Member Posts: 104 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    so far it has not happened again for me, I logged in today and timer had reset ok, I did fastest game on ice for the daily, I opened my inventory before accepting the reward and a icon with the hourglass like in my screen shot did appear for a split second then vanished.
    I can take video of end of krampy if that will be any use.
    @westmetals which event did you do for daily?

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    Hard Gorny, Cold Gorny, Big Ball of Scales, Angry Gorny, Fighty Gorny, Hiss, Hiss Hisssss
  • tom61stotom61sto Member Posts: 3,465 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I can pass this up the chain if you'd like.
    While a bit convenient, wouldn't be WAI and, well... can cause major confusion as we see here.

    The progress is on a 20 hour cooldown. So having an item appear and then get spent after 20 hours on its own... if that is what is happening... I'm not sure that is working properly.

    I got one of the hourglass-icon-as-inventory-items again today. My timer runs out in 5 hours from this post... will let you know if it gets auto used after that.

    (Sorry, don't know how to do screenshots... got a new keyboard with no printscreen button!)

    Typing /screenshot into chat will work too, besides the OS keys the other posters mentioned.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    I'll try if I get one again (the one from last night got used this morning).

    The icon appearing in the inventory, however, is precisely the icon shown in the popup window in @chanfron66 ' s post above - the hourglass with two chevrons underneath. I got that exact same popup after completing an event while my event was already on cooldown (I think, but am not 100% certain, that it was also kramp'iri; by what I did during that session, it may have been the ice fishing or tides of ice instead).... and then checked my inventory and the icon was sitting there next to my stack of ornament fragments.

    This morning when I logged on I went straight to events screen, and it was on cooldown with 19:50:50 remaining (like it had JUST triggered), and I checked inventory and the icon was gone.

    And, BTW, I am not playing via Steam.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,670 Community Moderator
    Sounds to me like the token is getting spent the second the 20 hour cooldown ends, thus giving progress and starting the cooldown again.

    I haven't experienced this yet myself, but then again I've only been doing the old Ice Race that you can start any time rather than waiting for a specific event to come up.

    I'd like to propose an experiment if anyone is willing to help.
    After getting a daily progress like normal from their preferred event, can someone run Fastest Game on Ice to see if another token is generated?

    Reason for suggesting Fastest Game on Ice is because unlike the other events that are on a schedule, Fastest Game on Ice is a quest you pick up ANY time. Can easily test, and is pretty much a controlled variable. Hell... might even see if a second Fastest Game on Ice also generates a token like was mentioned above.
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  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,140 Arc User
    ive been advised that i gain tokens (daily) during many events, but i dont get the auto renewal as if its waiting to be used. lol.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Sounds to me like the token is getting spent the second the 20 hour cooldown ends, thus giving progress and starting the cooldown again.

    I haven't experienced this yet myself, but then again I've only been doing the old Ice Race that you can start any time rather than waiting for a specific event to come up.

    I'd like to propose an experiment if anyone is willing to help.
    After getting a daily progress like normal from their preferred event, can someone run Fastest Game on Ice to see if another token is generated?

    Reason for suggesting Fastest Game on Ice is because unlike the other events that are on a schedule, Fastest Game on Ice is a quest you pick up ANY time. Can easily test, and is pretty much a controlled variable. Hell... might even see if a second Fastest Game on Ice also generates a token like was mentioned above.

    Well, the moment I logged in without a cooldown, not exactly when it ended (I was offline at that time).

    I *think* when I actually got the icon/token (the day before) was kramp'iri... I had done the daily several hours earlier, but I have not been doing either of the races so it definitely wasn't that.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    ive been advised that i gain tokens (daily) during many events, but i dont get the auto renewal as if its waiting to be used. lol.

    You're not supposed to... hence the discussion.

    The icon/token being discussed in this thread, is being generated by a bug.... and then (apparently) auto-consumed when the character is next online with the daily progress cooldown inactive.

    I've personally seen that happen... maybe three or four times, mostly last year, but once this week as well.

    What is supposed to happen - has been happening to me the rest of the time, and is probably happening to you - is that you can earn progress once, when the daily progress cooldown is inactive, and then any further progress-generating activities simply do not give the progress.

    You are correct that there are six different activities that will generate progress (if you are eligible to receive it).
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,140 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    ive been advised that i gain tokens (daily) during many events, but i dont get the auto renewal as if its waiting to be used. lol.

    You're not supposed to... hence the discussion.

    The icon/token being discussed in this thread, is being generated by a bug.... and then (apparently) auto-consumed when the character is next online with the daily progress cooldown inactive.

    I've personally seen that happen... maybe three or four times, mostly last year, but once this week as well.

    What is supposed to happen - has been happening to me the rest of the time, and is probably happening to you - is that you can earn progress once, when the daily progress cooldown is inactive, and then any further progress-generating activities simply do not give the progress.

    You are correct that there are six different activities that will generate progress (if you are eligible to receive it).

    correct. i was replying to rattlers post about trying things out to see if it does it or not. i should have quoted in my reply.
  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 999 Arc User
    It is not an exaggeration to say that STO is one of the buggiest games I've ever played.

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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    Had it happen again, but this time no token was generated to inventory.

    I believe it's happening intermittently... I have only seen or heard of it when the player plays kramp'iri when already on cooldown, and gets the "GOLD!" popup as above... and even then, not consistently.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 4,292 Arc User
    I have gotten the GOLD! popup several times when I shouldn't have because the daily event was already on cooldown, but so far no odd icon in inventory or other weird behavior except for the Breen offering Fastest Game on Ice twice in a row instead of going to timer that first time (it did not generate that thing in inventory though).
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,390 Arc User
    I have gotten the GOLD! popup several times when I shouldn't have because the daily event was already on cooldown, but so far no odd icon in inventory or other weird behavior except for the Breen offering Fastest Game on Ice twice in a row instead of going to timer that first time (it did not generate that thing in inventory though).

    I can maybe explain that actually... it appears that Fastest Game's timer does (or used to) begin upon pickup. If you did not complete the event immediately, but waited until the next day (or the next year!), you might then have been able to pick up the next "day's" copy immediately.

    The same thing works (or used to, I have not tried either in a long time) with dilithium mining missions... I used to sneak in an extra cycle during dilithium events that way.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,076 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    I have gotten the GOLD! popup several times when I shouldn't have because the daily event was already on cooldown, but so far no odd icon in inventory or other weird behavior except for the Breen offering Fastest Game on Ice twice in a row instead of going to timer that first time (it did not generate that thing in inventory though).

    IIRC, Fastest Game on Ice cooldown begins when you take the quest, not when you turn it in. So if you took it the day before, around the same time, it'll immediately be available again when you turn it in.
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