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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,959 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    Design number three looks like it took some inspiration from the Steamrunner and/or Akira ships, so that one may not be that interesting. The fourth one is very different though and would be a good event ship.
    I think it does look interesting and would've been far more consistent with the other Risa ship designs, I am still salty about it losing and never used the ship as a result, would've been interesting as a torp boat on my tac, I hope they can bring it back as a skin choice for the Risa Sci ship in the future. The current winning design looks like an Elachi ship ffs.

  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 1,538 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    A pilot-spec'd carrier with a Reinforcement Squadron trait. Something like "Fleet Commander: Reinforcing Squadron and other summons have their duration, hull, and shields reset to maximum whenever you launch carrier pets. Reinforcing Squadron will also call in a pair of escort wingmen to assist you." (like vanguard wingmen, but without the special active abilities)
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    If only!

    Seriously doubt it though - I mean, unless STO's management were given a heads-up about the show (and no evidence to suggest this is the case) we didn't really know enough about the Protostar until very recently and have only recently seen the 'transformation sequence' (when it engaged the protostar drive) up close once.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,716 Arc User
    I always liked this old bird:
    https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/K'Norr_Escort

    But odds are against it being the event ship.
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    Highly unlikely. We have not had a summer or winter event ship that was from one of the playable factions in... ever, I think?

    There have been a few of the anniversary event ships that would qualify, but not summer or winter ships.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,414 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    Highly unlikely. We have not had a summer or winter event ship that was from one of the playable factions in... ever, I think?

    There have been a few of the anniversary event ships that would qualify, but not summer or winter ships.

    Wasn't the Jem'Hadar bug first or second winter event ship, granted Dominion wasn't playable back then.
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    If only!

    Seriously doubt it though - I mean, unless STO's management were given a heads-up about the show (and no evidence to suggest this is the case) we didn't really know enough about the Protostar until very recently and have only recently seen the 'transformation sequence' (when it engaged the protostar drive) up close once.

    Prodigy was in the works years ago, because I saw that interview with Kate...she was approached at least two-years ago and the guys really do seem to have a vision for what the series is going to be.

    It was also pretty sharpish that Picard elements his the game...Jeri's cameos and ground gear, etc and the same with Lower Decks. Prodigy will have to hit STO sooner rather than later and I'd just love it to be sooner.

    I know in my heart that they won't change the Summer and Winter Events from Risian this and Breen that...but I do wish there was more variety. Ships as rewards, but no playable space missions and something fun and kooky, or ground gear would be a nice change.

    A candy attack console, or a Universal Breen Energy Dampener, etc.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 3,884 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    If only!

    Seriously doubt it though - I mean, unless STO's management were given a heads-up about the show (and no evidence to suggest this is the case) we didn't really know enough about the Protostar until very recently and have only recently seen the 'transformation sequence' (when it engaged the protostar drive) up close once.

    Prodigy was in the works years ago, because I saw that interview with Kate...she was approached at least two-years ago and the guys really do seem to have a vision for what the series is going to be.

    It was also pretty sharpish that Picard elements his the game...Jeri's cameos and ground gear, etc and the same with Lower Decks. Prodigy will have to hit STO sooner rather than later and I'd just love it to be sooner.

    I know in my heart that they won't change the Summer and Winter Events from Risian this and Breen that...but I do wish there was more variety. Ships as rewards, but no playable space missions and something fun and kooky, or ground gear would be a nice change.

    A candy attack console, or a Universal Breen Energy Dampener, etc.

    CBS brought STO in on DSC and gave them an early look at a number of things, but according to comments in the livestreams they have not done that as much (if any) with the other shows and later seasons of DSC. Clothing and other purely cosmetic stuff they can do from teasers and cliffhangers from the previous season but any special abilities take more time to analyze so they can get it right, and it is unlikely that they will tackle doing the Protostar until they see exactly what it can do.

    They actually have changed the summer and winter ships from Risian and Breen to other things now and then, the first year I did the summer event the prize was the Vorgon Ytijara dreadnaught-cruiser for instance, and they haven't done a Breen ship for winter in three years (it has all been "Kramp'Ihri" variants of Fek'lhri ships since).

    I doubt they would ever do "candy" ships for winter prizes since the devs take Star Trek seriously enough that whimsical stuff like that is not allowed off of Q's Winter Wonderland world. Personally, I agree with that viewpoint, if they allowed silly stuff in the main part of the game it would soon be overrun with it and lose any Trek feel (it happened with a number of other games where they ended up looking more like modern real-world Mardi Gras than sword and sorcery fantasy).

    It would be nice if they did some others though, like new classes of Benthan ships, a Fesarian pilot ship (they could even use the same kind of animations they do for Book's ship since they are clusterships), something similar to the Gorn and Orion ships from TOS, and maybe even a few of the less crazy ships from TAS (in fact that could be a good way to experiment with making a ship that looks cell-shaded enough to satisfy CBS for their animated shows yet still fits the STO aesthetic with no risk).

  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    spiritborn wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    kayajay wrote: »
    Maybe we're underestimating STO this year...maybe it will be the Protostar and the Event ship that people will want to fly for more than a fortnight.

    Highly unlikely. We have not had a summer or winter event ship that was from one of the playable factions in... ever, I think?

    There have been a few of the anniversary event ships that would qualify, but not summer or winter ships.

    Wasn't the Jem'Hadar bug first or second winter event ship, granted Dominion wasn't playable back then.

    No, it wasn't an event ship, it was a random drop from a purchase pack... like a lockbox ship. They didn't start having seasonal events (in the modern sense) until the following year.

    And there have been summer ships that were not Risian... the Ferengi Nandi was a summer ship.

    But even then... the statement stands... there has never been a summer or winter ship from one of the playable factions. They've all been third-party ships.
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,292 Arc User
    A redo of the Jupiter class to look like a Turkey
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  • aftulusaftulus Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    I will be in heaven if it account unlocks ceaseless momentum. 8)

    They did withering barrage. Why not this one too.
  • trillbuffettrillbuffet Member Posts: 861 Arc User
    My guesstimate is that its either going to be the aquarium or the pakled ship. However, it is odd that they have not released anything about any part of the event yet being how its either going to come out in a few days or either early next week.
  • aftulusaftulus Member Posts: 667 Arc User
    I think they said it would start on the 7th.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,022 Arc User
    Yeah, I think it's clear it will be the 7th. On the late side for me, but I think it will be from the 7th to January 4th.
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  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 1,538 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    aftulus wrote: »
    I will be in heaven if it account unlocks ceaseless momentum. 8)

    They did withering barrage. Why not this one too.

    They gave away a relatively cheap c-store ship trait (from multiple ships in multiple bundles that are cheaper than the ship alone). It's a near certainty that they're never going to give away a valuable trait from a lockbox ship.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    My guesstimate is that its either going to be the aquarium or the pakled ship. However, it is odd that they have not released anything about any part of the event yet being how its either going to come out in a few days or either early next week.

    In most cases in the past, the announcement for an event has been on Monday of the week it starts, or late in the previous week. If it is truly starting on the 7th, both of those are still on the table.

    However, we used to also have the calendar so we kinda knew farther out than the actual announcement. But now the calendar is gone.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    Yeah, I think it's clear it will be the 7th. On the late side for me, but I think it will be from the 7th to January 4th.
    westmetals wrote: »
    My guesstimate is that its either going to be the aquarium or the pakled ship. However, it is odd that they have not released anything about any part of the event yet being how its either going to come out in a few days or either early next week.

    In most cases in the past, the announcement for an event has been on Monday of the week it starts, or late in the previous week. If it is truly starting on the 7th, both of those are still on the table.

    However, we used to also have the calendar so we kinda knew farther out than the actual announcement. But now the calendar is gone.

    Already confirmed to start on 7th December:
  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    It is strange, because they keep updating Leeta in STO, to actually look more like Chase Masterson does today and yet, they've not updated Q to look ANYTHING like John De Lancie...ever. His toon is just the bog-standard male, stuck in the costume. It's fine if John himself wants nothing to do with the game, but surely they could make him the toon like even remotely like him.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,847 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    Well, by law, you can't use someone's likeness without their explicit permission, so....​​
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  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    Well, by law, you can't use someone's likeness without their explicit permission, so....​​

    And yet, I would have said that using the image of someone from a past show, like TNG and not how John looks today, would be okay. I'm sure we've had characters appear in STO, who the actors haven't participated with?
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    kayajay wrote: »
    It is strange, because they keep updating Leeta in STO, to actually look more like Chase Masterson does today and yet, they've not updated Q to look ANYTHING like John De Lancie...ever. His toon is just the bog-standard male, stuck in the costume. It's fine if John himself wants nothing to do with the game, but surely they could make him the toon like even remotely like him.

    STO's Q isn't the John DeLancie Q though.

    The Q we see in STO is 'Junior' (Q's son, first seen in Voyager).
    https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Q
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,847 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    No, we have not - in ANY case where someone hasn't signed a contract giving Cryptic permission to use their likeness, Cryptic has not used that person's likeness - that's why Kirk's face can't be seen in that one TOS recruit mission. And also why Data (who it very clearly is) can't be seen at the end of Survivors when he visits Sela in her cell to tell her about Tasha Yar.​​
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,414 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    Well, by law, you can't use someone's likeness without their explicit permission, so....​​

    And yet, I would have said that using the image of someone from a past show, like TNG and not how John looks today, would be okay. I'm sure we've had characters appear in STO, who the actors haven't participated with?

    That's not how the law works though, it's likeness from the birth to death, there's some exceptions but those are not relevant to STO and as far as I know there's not been a single actor whose likeness has been used without permission, if there was a character they didn't have the actor likeness rights for they used a generic NPC that only remotely resembled the actor.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    edited November 2021
    Well, John de Lancie has done voice work for one of those rubbish smartphone based Trek games. Perhaps there is some reason, tied to that, he can't do voice work for STO too?

    Eitherway, moot point in this case - as said earlier, the 'Q' we meet in STO is Q Junior from 'The Q and the Grey' and 'Q2', NOT John de Lancie's character.

  • kayajaykayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Well, John de Lancie has done voice work for one of those rubbish smartphone based Trek games. Perhaps there is some reason, tied to that, he can't do voice work for STO too?

    Eitherway, moot point in this case - as said earlier, the 'Q' we meet in STO is Q Junior from 'The Q and the Grey' and 'Q2', NOT John de Lancie's character.

    He also did Star Trek: Borg.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 1,538 Arc User
    kayajay wrote: »
    Well, by law, you can't use someone's likeness without their explicit permission, so....​​

    And yet, I would have said that using the image of someone from a past show, like TNG and not how John looks today, would be okay. I'm sure we've had characters appear in STO, who the actors haven't participated with?

    No. Still not okay. Actors have to agree to license their likenesses before any company or business can legally use them in any capacity.
  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 460 Arc User
    No. Still not okay. Actors have to agree to license their likenesses before any company or business can legally use them in any capacity.

    Or in some cases their estates, given that a couple of the actors whose characters appear in this game are dead (although Scotty is voiced by Doohan's son, so there's that approval there, I guess).
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    kayajay wrote: »
    Well, by law, you can't use someone's likeness without their explicit permission, so....​​

    And yet, I would have said that using the image of someone from a past show, like TNG and not how John looks today, would be okay. I'm sure we've had characters appear in STO, who the actors haven't participated with?

    No, not at all, thats illegal.
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  • paradox#7391 paradox Member Posts: 1,145 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kayajay wrote: »
    It is strange, because they keep updating Leeta in STO, to actually look more like Chase Masterson does today and yet, they've not updated Q to look ANYTHING like John De Lancie...ever. His toon is just the bog-standard male, stuck in the costume. It's fine if John himself wants nothing to do with the game, but surely they could make him the toon like even remotely like him.

    STO's Q isn't the John DeLancie Q though.

    The Q we see in STO is 'Junior' (Q's son, first seen in Voyager).
    https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Q

    But is Q Jr. Trelane like the fan theory suggests, Trelane is accepted as a Q by fans and as result Q Junior also seems like the perfect candidate, plus John Delancie did based the entire Q Continuum off this TOS Character.
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