well deserved in my opinion.... leave the politics in your house..... the only place your opinion has any say or matter
no it's not. it's a matter of free expression and what will you do when there's no one to defend yours?
Freedom of expression/speech does not extend to games. They can place whatever limits on 'free speech' they so choose. If a platform does not want to get involved with politics/religion etc, it's their right too.
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I just can't believe that Donnie's supporters think that such a stupid childhood chant is a "brave expression" of anything except an infantile attitude. Say what you tribbling mean (insofar as permitted in a private area such as this, of course - remember that the First Amendment says the government can't punish you for what you say).
From a legal perspective it's a privately owned game so they can enforce whatever rules they wish to and freedom of expression doesn't apply. However, since a few players on the forums have politically motivated tags under their names, and have had them displayed for some time without issue from the moderators, I am curious about the enforcement of said rules.
Regardless, I agree that this is a Star Trek game and politics should not play a part.
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1: Freedom of speech means the government can't arrest you for criticizing it. It has nothing to do with private entities or businesses. They can set whatever rules of conduct they want (as long as those rules don't break any laws).
2: Whether you agree with them or not now, you actually agreed to follow Cryptic's rules the day you signed up to play the game. It's all that garbage text you have to scroll past to get to the bottom. They can essentially make you agree to anything just to create your account.
3: I have no problems with rules about politics/religion/etc as long as they are not selectively enforced based on bias. I am fine with "no politics" as long as it applies to all parties and not just one, and I am fine with "no religion" as long as it applies to all religions and not just one.
However, since a few players on the forums have politically motivated tags under their names, and have had them displayed for some time without issue from the moderators, I am curious about the enforcement of said rules.
Rules (and moderation teams) are frequently different between an online game and it's forums.
(also, name issues are usually only addressed when someone reports them. The mods don't generally go wandering looking for them.)
- without any meaning that just sounds good (USS Turaahn, USS Veenhes, USS Nev Garrachi)
- A ship that follows some basic rules of naming conventions for specific species (USS Phiat Ennam'Tar for a Xindi Aquatic carrier - compare with the only named Aquatic Xindi: Kiaphet Amman'sor)
- referring to a Star Trek person or place (USS Jaresh-Inyo, USS Weytahn, USS Rachel Garrett)
- a word related to the build (USS Corona, which was my first ship that heavily used plasma weapons - name chosen years ago or USS Siphrain, a portmanteau of siphon and drain for... well, you guess it)
- a word that just seems right for the ship itself (USS Vestingstad or 'fortified city' for a flying fortress)
Of course there are more options you could consider if you don't want to risk a ban.
From a legal perspective it's a privately owned game so they can enforce whatever rules they wish to and freedom of expression doesn't apply. However, since a few players on the forums have politically motivated tags under their names, and have had them displayed for some time without issue from the moderators, I am curious about the enforcement of said rules.
I agree. If politics are forbidden, the rules on it should be clear and apply to all political views. I still wouldn't hit people with a ban - account names are automatically changed to 'badname123x', aren't they?
Of course a ship name can be easily reverted back to something deemed unacceptable, but maybe they can change something to prevent that for a while, as part of a penalty.
Above all, the rules should be clear. To be fair, I wasn't even aware that you could get suspended for having an inappropriate ship name. At least giving a warning first instead of immediately taking more draconic measures (if that's what happened and we're getting the full story here) would seem better.
Anyway, you may want to contact support. If you're interested in trying to get access to your account again.
Okay I can see this already turning into an inferno and we're not going down that route. If you feel the suspension was unwarranted then the best advice I can give you is to contact customer support and sort it out with them. there is nothing we can do for you here on the forums. please leave such politically charged topics off these forums /closed
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no it's not. it's a matter of free expression and what will you do when there's no one to defend yours?
aut vincere aut mori pro imperio
either to conquer or to die for the Empire
Well, you got one!
Lesson learned perhaps?
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Freedom of expression/speech does not extend to games. They can place whatever limits on 'free speech' they so choose. If a platform does not want to get involved with politics/religion etc, it's their right too.
Regardless, I agree that this is a Star Trek game and politics should not play a part.
Arroyos, Officer John Painter, K9 Jedi, K9 Maya, Deputy Constable Neil Adams, Officer Jorge
David Alvarado, Sergeant Joshua Cordell, Trooper Martin Mack, Trooper Branden Sisca,
Lieutenant William Lebo
2: Whether you agree with them or not now, you actually agreed to follow Cryptic's rules the day you signed up to play the game. It's all that garbage text you have to scroll past to get to the bottom. They can essentially make you agree to anything just to create your account.
3: I have no problems with rules about politics/religion/etc as long as they are not selectively enforced based on bias. I am fine with "no politics" as long as it applies to all parties and not just one, and I am fine with "no religion" as long as it applies to all religions and not just one.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Rules (and moderation teams) are frequently different between an online game and it's forums.
(also, name issues are usually only addressed when someone reports them. The mods don't generally go wandering looking for them.)
Hypocrisy for the WIN!
Cirran
I usually pick names
- without any meaning that just sounds good (USS Turaahn, USS Veenhes, USS Nev Garrachi)
- A ship that follows some basic rules of naming conventions for specific species (USS Phiat Ennam'Tar for a Xindi Aquatic carrier - compare with the only named Aquatic Xindi: Kiaphet Amman'sor)
- referring to a Star Trek person or place (USS Jaresh-Inyo, USS Weytahn, USS Rachel Garrett)
- a word related to the build (USS Corona, which was my first ship that heavily used plasma weapons - name chosen years ago or USS Siphrain, a portmanteau of siphon and drain for... well, you guess it)
- a word that just seems right for the ship itself (USS Vestingstad or 'fortified city' for a flying fortress)
Of course there are more options you could consider if you don't want to risk a ban.
With all that being said:
I agree. If politics are forbidden, the rules on it should be clear and apply to all political views. I still wouldn't hit people with a ban - account names are automatically changed to 'badname123x', aren't they?
Of course a ship name can be easily reverted back to something deemed unacceptable, but maybe they can change something to prevent that for a while, as part of a penalty.
Above all, the rules should be clear. To be fair, I wasn't even aware that you could get suspended for having an inappropriate ship name. At least giving a warning first instead of immediately taking more draconic measures (if that's what happened and we're getting the full story here) would seem better.
Anyway, you may want to contact support. If you're interested in trying to get access to your account again.
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