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  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,153 Arc User
    so, a sci boat with raider flanking.. does the flanking bonus apply to space majicks??
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  • jexsamxjexsamx Member Posts: 2,793 Arc User
    I always knew it would be a Scilot ship but I never dared dream it would be full spec. Damn I wish I was still spending money on this game.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,538 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    https://arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11501233
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    Oddly, despite the bundle containing two Fleet ship modules, there is no reference to Fleet versions.

    I'm glad the ships are coming, I may even make a character to fly the Saber since as far as I know it's the first miracle worker escort, but I am a LITTLE disappointed that the bundle doesn't include any Lobi extras like the Oberth bundle did ... though at the same time there really aren't any that would fit in thematically with these ships either.
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  • livinlifejb90#4082 livinlifejb90 Member Posts: 214 Arc User
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,959 Arc User
    I want a T6 Tempest personally.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,145 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    2 things:
    Console - Universal - Troyius Protocol

    This equipment draws inspiration for its name from a technique once developed by Starfleet Corps of Engineers, which caused the entire planet of Troyius to temporarily disappear from visuals and sensors. This process was preceded by a massive power build-up which this modernized suite of technology employs to grant temporary bonuses to any starship that activates the protocol.
    I checked on Memory Alpha and I couldn't find any reference regarding this event in canon or the path to 2409.

    And then, it turns out to be part of the Destiny novels, along with the name of the ship class. Which is surprising, since STO basically chose to ignore the events of Destiny for its plot (except a reference that Dulmur "remembered" this timeline, along with the Kelvin one)
    since it basically resulted in the definitive destruction of the Borg Collective, the death of Janeway and Owen Paris, the destruction of Jouret IV, Japori, Risa, Khitomer, Korvat, Rura Penthe, the USS Malinche and 60 billion lives
    and the referenced event isn't even part of a side-plot.

    Also:
    Experimental Weapon - Gatling Emitter

    This weapon will take a few seconds to spin up and lock on to your current foe, after which it is designed to rapidly deal damage until the foe is no longer a valid target. It cannot be manually re-targeted, and will instead continue attacking the designated foe until they die, move out of range, or otherwise can no longer be attacked.
    In a game infamous for its godawful targeting system and its "press spacebar to solve most issues" motto, that's quite a bad idea to introduce this.

    Also:
    The state-of-the-art propulsion and maneuverability of this successor, coupled with numerous improvements to its bridge station customization options, has reclassified this already-beloved class as a Scout Ship.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 9,597 Arc User
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,145 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...
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  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,419 Arc User
    Saurializard,

    I noticed the similarities between the Protostar and the Emissary variants, as I’m sure others did too… it did get me a tad bit excited for a potential T6 Emissary…
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 460 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    Now that the Nova is getting her proper update, the clamor may go to certain Cryptic-designed classes in the T5-ish range (like the original Star Cruiser) getting updated. I ran a T5 Deep Space Science Vessel for the longest time (Destiny with Trident nacelles, if my memory serves), I wouldn't mind seeing a new one of those.
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    We still need a T6 version of the Pasteur, too....
  • kellmg96#5851 kellmg96 Member Posts: 773 Arc User
    T6 Khitomer Dyson next
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​

    Indeed. It's a shame the original Star Cruiser has been ignored for so long.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 2,961 Arc User
    2 things:
    Console - Universal - Troyius Protocol

    This equipment draws inspiration for its name from a technique once developed by Starfleet Corps of Engineers, which caused the entire planet of Troyius to temporarily disappear from visuals and sensors. This process was preceded by a massive power build-up which this modernized suite of technology employs to grant temporary bonuses to any starship that activates the protocol.
    I checked on Memory Alpha and I couldn't find any reference regarding this event in canon or the path to 2409.

    And then, it turns out to be part of the Destiny novels, along with the name of the ship class. Which is surprising, since STO basically chose to ignore the events of Destiny for its plot (except a reference that Dulmur "remembered" this timeline, along with the Kelvin one)
    since it basically resulted in the definitive destruction of the Borg Collective, the death of Janeway and Owen Paris, the destruction of Jouret IV, Japori, Risa, Khitomer, Korvat, Rura Penthe, the USS Malinche and 60 billion lives
    and the referenced event isn't even part of a side-plot.

    Also:
    Experimental Weapon - Gatling Emitter

    This weapon will take a few seconds to spin up and lock on to your current foe, after which it is designed to rapidly deal damage until the foe is no longer a valid target. It cannot be manually re-targeted, and will instead continue attacking the designated foe until they die, move out of range, or otherwise can no longer be attacked.
    In a game infamous for its godawful targeting system and its "press spacebar to solve most issues" motto, that's quite a bad idea to introduce this.

    Also:
    The state-of-the-art propulsion and maneuverability of this successor, coupled with numerous improvements to its bridge station customization options, has reclassified this already-beloved class as a Scout Ship.
    su8ic.jpg

    I'm actually glad they ignored the Destiny novels. It's nice that we have the Vesta ships and that those can use all their tricks. But the story was horrible. Just destroying stuff and killing off characters as a writer because you can.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    2 things:
    Console - Universal - Troyius Protocol

    This equipment draws inspiration for its name from a technique once developed by Starfleet Corps of Engineers, which caused the entire planet of Troyius to temporarily disappear from visuals and sensors. This process was preceded by a massive power build-up which this modernized suite of technology employs to grant temporary bonuses to any starship that activates the protocol.
    I checked on Memory Alpha and I couldn't find any reference regarding this event in canon or the path to 2409.

    And then, it turns out to be part of the Destiny novels, along with the name of the ship class. Which is surprising, since STO basically chose to ignore the events of Destiny for its plot (except a reference that Dulmur "remembered" this timeline, along with the Kelvin one)
    since it basically resulted in the definitive destruction of the Borg Collective, the death of Janeway and Owen Paris, the destruction of Jouret IV, Japori, Risa, Khitomer, Korvat, Rura Penthe, the USS Malinche and 60 billion lives
    and the referenced event isn't even part of a side-plot.

    Also:
    Experimental Weapon - Gatling Emitter

    This weapon will take a few seconds to spin up and lock on to your current foe, after which it is designed to rapidly deal damage until the foe is no longer a valid target. It cannot be manually re-targeted, and will instead continue attacking the designated foe until they die, move out of range, or otherwise can no longer be attacked.
    In a game infamous for its godawful targeting system and its "press spacebar to solve most issues" motto, that's quite a bad idea to introduce this.

    Also:
    The state-of-the-art propulsion and maneuverability of this successor, coupled with numerous improvements to its bridge station customization options, has reclassified this already-beloved class as a Scout Ship.
    su8ic.jpg

    I'm actually glad they ignored the Destiny novels. It's nice that we have the Vesta ships and that those can use all their tricks. But the story was horrible. Just destroying stuff and killing off characters as a writer because you can.

    Off-topic I guess, but I have mixed feelings about the novel-verse and there were certainly aspects of the novel-verse I didn't enjoy. Mostly Captain Dax, whose Mary-Sue-ism put that of any character from a current series to shame - and it really didn't help that her ship, the Aventine, was written as being quite OP most of the time too. I didn't think much of Riker being promoted to Admiral either.

    Eitherway, it seems that the Coda trilogy of novels is going to change things so guess will have to see where they go with that.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,414 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,742 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas

    Yes, the Protostar is a very small ship. There isn't an 'official' size given yet as far as I know.. but most sources seem to put it around the size of the Defiant or the NX Enterprise. Some sources have it being as small as a B'Rel class.

    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas

    Yes, the Protostar is a very small ship. There isn't an 'official' size given yet as far as I know.. but most sources seem to put it around the size of the Defiant or the NX Enterprise. Some sources have it being as small as a B'Rel class.

    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.

    Yeah - to be honest it pretty much had to be small due to size of the 'crew'.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,145 Arc User
    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.
    Well, it is a Proto star after all.
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas

    Yes, the Protostar is a very small ship. There isn't an 'official' size given yet as far as I know.. but most sources seem to put it around the size of the Defiant or the NX Enterprise. Some sources have it being as small as a B'Rel class.

    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.

    Yeah - to be honest it pretty much had to be small due to size of the 'crew'.

    This (among other reasons) was why I was actually thinking it might be the T6 Nova... though that turned out not to be the case.
  • starshine#7408 starshine Member Posts: 127 Arc User
    Weird that the little ship is a miracle worker, not a pilot?
    They look beautiful
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  • cirran1cirran1 Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    Well now that this has come to pass, as many said it would. I am hoping that the Dyson series of ships get the Tier 6 treatment.

    Side Note: Since many Nova fans said this would NEVER happen, will they apologize for being wrong?

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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,352 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    cirran1 wrote: »
    Well now that this has come to pass, as many said it would. I am hoping that the Dyson series of ships get the Tier 6 treatment.

    Side Note: Since many Nova fans said this would NEVER happen, will they apologize for being wrong?

    Cirran
    No.

    I'm going to repeat what I said back in September, keeping in mind that it's a past-tense quote:

    I would, obviously, be delighted to finally see it. I would not, however, feel any need to express eternal gratitude or heap endless praise upon the Devs. It has been a long wait and the delight I'll feel when it does finally appear will be somewhat tainted by seven years of polls that amounted to nothing (for this ship at least), non-answers such as "eventually" and "we know you want it", watching Thomas give priority to ships that "he personally wanted" and seeing almost every other canon ship get not just one - but TWO - quality passes/remasters.At this point if they did finally give the Nova attention it'd feel like they only did so due to having so few canon ships left that needed the treatment.

    No - with that in mind I don't feel any need to apologise.
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  • ussvaliant2#1952 ussvaliant2 Member Posts: 338 Arc User
    finally my dil sold today so I'm all ready to purchase these 2 ships when they become available.
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  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    Weird that the little ship is a miracle worker, not a pilot?
    They look beautiful

    The ship is pulled from the Starfleet Corps of Engineers stories. The Da Vinci was a saber ship captained by David Gold. So it only makes sense its a MW ship. They even named the console appropriately. Troyius is a planet from TOS, but in one of the stories the Da Vinci engineers save Troyius from the borg by cloaking the planet.

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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,404 Arc User
    Experimental Weapon - Gatling Emitter

    This weapon will take a few seconds to spin up and lock on to your current foe, after which it is designed to rapidly deal damage until the foe is no longer a valid target. It cannot be manually re-targeted, and will instead continue attacking the designated foe until they die, move out of range, or otherwise can no longer be attacked.
    In a game infamous for its godawful targeting system and its "press spacebar to solve most issues" motto, that's quite a bad idea to introduce this.

    Agreed fully. Many instances exist where firing prevents interaction with mission objectives. It also holds the user trapped at red alert and drawing aggro when this would be poor strategy. At least battle cloak capable ships could turn it off at will by cloaking. Also, what happens if someone breaks targeting lock by hiding behind an ally or enemy or some other obstacle? This mechanic needs to be reworked from the start.
    T6 Khitomer Dyson next

    No thanks, they really don't need any more excuses NOT to make any more REAL Warbirds (with singularity cores).

    There's nothing I'd like to see more than a T6 Dyson Warbird or some full spec transformer Sci-Tac Warbird (like the S31 Intel Sci), or a full specialist science Warbird with a hangar bay. The Romulan Multi-Missions come very close to this and of course I enjoy them a ton, but it would be fun to have that extra specialist perk.

    The T5s were very special in that they were the ONLY other real science warbirds besides the Ha'nom. The transformer mode to this day does not allow swapping out the awful 4th proton cannon weapon or even upgrading it, nevermind that the new gen transformer ships (Titan/Comet, Mirror Crossfield, S31 Intel Sci Destroyer) all come with a standard extra forward weapon mounting point even in science mode. The proton based exotic and energy weapon system has been garbage since release day and with all the upgrades and revamps hasn't been helped in the least, save for perhaps the reputed proc rates of protonic polaron I've not been able to verify, and some other sources of protonic damage. I have 3 such theme-appropriate Dysons across 3 characters and while I made them function fully as intended, including transformer mode, they remain very sub-par. Their 3-console set is absolutely awful, quite unlike many other T5 era consoles. Since the heavy/experimental weapon slot was added to qualifying escorts, the Dysons still lack it, though all other transformers have them, and they even come with unique ones.

    The last Khitomer ship, the Temer Alliance Raider despite supposedly being half-warbird did not receive a singularity core. The R'Mor/Sui'Mor and the Talvath/Tal'aura have none either, same with Tal Shiar Llaihr/Mandukar and Khnial/Khlinae. Sure, one could argue the latter set of ships were from an era of faction-locked character-bound ships, but going forward this is no longer true (see Dhailkhina). No Warbird was ever awarded by itself from any event as even the Aves came with 2 other counterparts (Klingon & Federation), and since that single exception, no event has ever awarded a Warbird.
    cirran1 wrote: »
    Side Note: Since many Nova fans said this would NEVER happen, will they apologize for being wrong?
    I was wrong, but why would anyone think an apology for a prediction is necessary, or worse, think they'd be entitled to receive it as if it makes some difference. I am glad to be fully wrong, and can't wait to get it and fly it, and I hope the game stays online another few more years at least to be able to enjoy this and the many other stuff it has to offer.

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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,538 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas

    Yes, the Protostar is a very small ship. There isn't an 'official' size given yet as far as I know.. but most sources seem to put it around the size of the Defiant or the NX Enterprise. Some sources have it being as small as a B'Rel class.

    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.

    Yeah - to be honest it pretty much had to be small due to size of the 'crew'.

    This (among other reasons) was why I was actually thinking it might be the T6 Nova... though that turned out not to be the case.

    The T6 Nova was always going to be a 2409 style design, however the Protostar could still be a Legendary Nova if the size and proportions are right.
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  • naabal421#0722 naabal421 Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    The T6 Nova was always going to be a 2409 style design, however the Protostar could still be a Legendary Nova if the size and proportions are right.
    From what we've seen the Protostar is WAY smaller then the Nova.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 3,414 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    The T6 Nova was always going to be a 2409 style design, however the Protostar could still be a Legendary Nova if the size and proportions are right.
    From what we've seen the Protostar is WAY smaller then the Nova.

    The Nova is around 220 or so long, The Protostar probably isn't much smaller then the 150 m Defiant. so they're in the same "size class" might be an issue model wise but then the size of the Protostar isn't that certain (yet)
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 7,495 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    westmetals wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    jonsills wrote: »
    now the wait for T6 Star Cruiser and more vulcan ships officially begins.​​
    You mean the Tier 6 Yorktown-class Science Star Cruiser? The one that's currently available for 3000 Zen? That T6 Star Cruiser?

    I think they meant the Emissary.

    Though, considering the USS Protostar has some similarities with the Emissary (especially its Vanguard variant) and ST Prodigy just started its run...

    Isn't the Protostar much smaller then the Starcruisers though around the same size as the Defiants or the Novas

    Yes, the Protostar is a very small ship. There isn't an 'official' size given yet as far as I know.. but most sources seem to put it around the size of the Defiant or the NX Enterprise. Some sources have it being as small as a B'Rel class.

    Again, exact size isn't officially stated anywhere yet, but it looks to be much smaller then the T5 Star Cruiser.

    Yeah - to be honest it pretty much had to be small due to size of the 'crew'.

    This (among other reasons) was why I was actually thinking it might be the T6 Nova... though that turned out not to be the case.

    The T6 Nova was always going to be a 2409 style design, however the Protostar could still be a Legendary Nova if the size and proportions are right.

    I don't watch the streams so maybe there was information given there that wasn't in writing... but my thought was simply that the remaster taking place around the same time that Prodigy was coming out... plus the similarity of names... as well as (as mentioned) that the Protostar and Nova are both on the smaller end of Starfleet ships.

    Also... do we actually know when Prodigy is set? It could be that it is in or about 2409.... it would certainly have to be post-VOY, but other than that....
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