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Nova/Rhode Island Model Update Confirmed

reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
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https://arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11499863

An absolutely STUNNING remaster!

With this news I thought it sensible to start a new thread. The old thread has really run it's course now, since it was more to highlight the need for the class to be remastered/given the T6 treatment. Granted, there isn't a T6 version (yet?) but I, personally, can live with that - my biggest beef with the fact they ignored it for so long was the terrible quality of the old model, which is highlighted in the linked blog.

As for a T6 version - who knows? I assume there will be one as I have a very hard time believing Cryptic would've put so much Dev time and effort into remastering the ship with no ROI.
But I guess there isn't any harm in discussing what we'd like to see them do with a possible T6 version of it.
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  • nccmarknccmark Member Posts: 1,037 Arc User
    Maybe this means not only an incoming T6, but a Legendary T6?

    That would be nice for y'all who have been waiting years for a T6 version
  • solidshark214solidshark214 Member Posts: 288 Arc User
    nccmark wrote: »
    Maybe this means not only an incoming T6, but a Legendary T6?

    That would be nice for y'all who have been waiting years for a T6 version

    I don't think a Legendary would go over very well, personally. Since that would lock out all but the biggest whales from ever getting it.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,676 Community Moderator
    edited October 2021
    nccmark wrote: »
    Maybe this means not only an incoming T6, but a Legendary T6?

    That would be nice for y'all who have been waiting years for a T6 version

    Normal T6 yes. Legendary? Not likely. We do have ships with access to the "legendary" hull materials that do not have a Legendary, like the Prometheus and Steamrunner.

    @reyan01 would you like the old one closed now if it hasn't already? And I hope when this comes out you take plenty of screenshots to show off your remodeled Nova in all her glory. This has been a long time coming, and I think you earned a bit of a showcase of your favorite ship.

    Just saw you did tag me over there... must have gotten buried on my end or something. Thread was closed for you.
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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 8,401 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    I'm just trying to figure out what kind of BOFF / console layout the possible T6 would have. I keep coming back to something very similar to the original Intrepid, only with Miracle Worker spec in place of Intel.

    (i.e. not a "full spec" ship, but with some access)

    Or... considering it's Harry's ship... if they want to do something revolutionary.... it would have an Ens Engineer slot that will take ANY spec.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    > @rattler2 said:
    > Normal T6 yes. Legendary? Not likely. We do have ships with access to the "legendary" hull materials that do not have a Legendary, like the Prometheus and Steamrunner.
    >
    > @reyan01 would you like the old one closed now if it hasn't already? And I hope when this comes out you take plenty of screenshots to show off your remodeled Nova in all her glory. This has been a long time coming, and I think you earned a bit of a showcase of your favorite ship.






    Already did, in the old thread (though they were from Tribble), but will post them again, here, when am at my home PC.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    westmetals wrote: »
    I'm just trying to figure out what kind of BOFF / console layout the possible T6 would have. I keep coming back to something very similar to the original Intrepid, only with Miracle Worker spec in place of Intel.

    (i.e. not a "full spec" ship, but with some access)

    Or... considering it's Harry's ship... if they want to do something revolutionary.... it would have an Ens Engineer slot that will take ANY spec.

    I've made a few assumptions regarding what they might do if they ever produced a T6 Nova over the years.

    To be clear, these are nothing but assumptions/guesses and so far as I am aware, despite the model remaster, there is no T6 Nova yet - however in my mind, if one does appear:
    - It would have a 'homebaked' skin (pretty much a given)
    - The Cryptic design skin will very probably be the 'Equinox Class' since they always name the new design for a canon ship after the most prominent member of that ship to appear in a series
    - The console that it comes with will likely somehow involve/use artificial Nucleogenic energy
    - The trait will probably involve/utilise artificial Nucleogenic energy
    - It may well have Pilot BOFF seating (the size and agility of the ship would lend itself well to this)

    Less certain assumptions:
    - It could be a Scout ship (suggested many times since Scout ships became a thing in STO) based on what we know of the USS Rhode Island. And there are very few Scout ships in STO at the present time.
    - It could have the Pilot maneuver mechanic
    - It could be a Miracle Worker ship (with the damage that the USS Equinox took in mind)
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,774 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Legendary? Not likely.

    A Legendary won't happen YET, but once there's a normal T6 available I think a Legendary would certainly be possible eventually as at that point it would have somewhat of an in-game lineage, as well as being a ship that carried an episode.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,646 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    I'm just trying to figure out what kind of BOFF / console layout the possible T6 would have. I keep coming back to something very similar to the original Intrepid, only with Miracle Worker spec in place of Intel.

    (i.e. not a "full spec" ship, but with some access)

    Or... considering it's Harry's ship... if they want to do something revolutionary.... it would have an Ens Engineer slot that will take ANY spec.

    I've made a few assumptions regarding what they might do if they ever produced a T6 Nova over the years.

    To be clear, these are nothing but assumptions/guesses and so far as I am aware, despite the model remaster, there is no T6 Nova yet - however in my mind, if one does appear:
    - It would have a 'homebaked' skin (pretty much a given)
    - The Cryptic design skin will very probably be the 'Equinox Class' since they always name the new design for a canon ship after the most prominent member of that ship to appear in a series
    - The console that it comes with will likely somehow involve/use artificial Nucleogenic energy
    - The trait will probably involve/utilise artificial Nucleogenic energy
    - It may well have Pilot BOFF seating (the size and agility of the ship would lend itself well to this)

    Less certain assumptions:
    - It could be a Scout ship (suggested many times since Scout ships became a thing in STO) based on what we know of the USS Rhode Island. And there are very few Scout ships in STO at the present time.
    - It could have the Pilot maneuver mechanic
    - It could be a Miracle Worker ship (with the damage that the USS Equinox took in mind)

    Considering it was a 'short-ranged' science vessel, I think a Scout class-Intel layout would be most appropriate. I can see it being Raider class with Pilot layout also due to it's ability to fly through atmosphere better than the Intrepid. They are spoilt for choice. Miracle worker just doesn't suit it, and would make it more powerful than the C-Store Intrepid, which in canon, it is not.
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  • edrickvellorinedrickvellorin Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    A little observation about the timing of this update: Prodigy premiers October 28th. Which makes me think that maybe the T6 Nova will be the Protostar's class. (I've been thinking something like that could happen ever since I saw the Protostar.) Maybe there will be news on Ten Forward tomorrow, or on next week's Ten Forward.
  • poddlipoddli Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    Looks lovely. I mean I'm never gonna fly one, but that's not the point. There are some who have been rightfully asking for this for literal years. I'm so chuffed they finally got it.

    Imma raise a beer for Reyan. Good job being loud about this all this time.
  • madslater12madslater12 Member Posts: 18 Arc User
    > @reyan01 said:
    > https://arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11499863
    >
    > An absolutely STUNNING remaster!
    >
    > With this news I thought it sensible to start a new thread. The old thread has really run it's course now, since it was more to highlight the need for the class to be remastered/given the T6 treatment. Granted, there isn't a T6 version (yet?) but I, personally, can live with that - my biggest beef with the fact they ignored it for so long was the terrible quality of the old model, which is highlighted in the linked blog.
    >
    > As for a T6 version - who knows? I assume there will be one as I have a very hard time believing Cryptic would've put so much Dev time and effort into remastering the ship with no ROI.
    > But I guess there isn't any harm in discussing what we'd like to see them do with a possible T6 version of it.

    yessssss its about dam time
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,676 Community Moderator
    A little observation about the timing of this update: Prodigy premiers October 28th. Which makes me think that maybe the T6 Nova will be the Protostar's class. (I've been thinking something like that could happen ever since I saw the Protostar.) Maybe there will be news on Ten Forward tomorrow, or on next week's Ten Forward.

    At the moment its more coincidence. Don't forget that it took at least one season before we got something from Discovery and Lower Decks. Until more evidence is given... its just coincidence.
    A Legendary won't happen YET, but once there's a normal T6 available I think a Legendary would certainly be possible eventually as at that point it would have somewhat of an in-game lineage, as well as being a ship that carried an episode.

    The same could be said of the Prometheus. No legendary for her yet either. She got a model revamp, and access to the "legendary" hull materials and didn't get a Legendary. Steamrunner also got a revamp and access to those hull materials. And I'm pretty sure the Akira and Luna did as well when they were revamped.

    A model revamp doesn't always mean a Legendary is coming for that line. It just means that the model's been updated to current standards and more in line with the canon counterpart.
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  • arcuser5478#7223 arcuser5478 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    A T6 version can't come soon enough. One of the best looking canon vessels in the game now.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,676 Community Moderator
    Gotta hand it to Tobias Richter. Dude's practically a master artist with the game engine. Everything he puts out is awesome so far.

    I'm actually reminded of some of the old Armada 2 mods that were model replacements for existing things like ships.
    The quality was so high... you wouldn't believe it was the same game when you compared the models to the stock ones. Same thing here. Comparing the new model with the old, launch era model... you'd swear it was a different game.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    It just means that the model's been updated to current standards and more in line with the canon counterpart.

    Hell, some of these model updates over the years happened before there were even T6 versions, nevermind legendaries. (I point to the Constellation-class as one that got revamped and is still T6-less.)
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    Well, whilst this opinion is completely subjective, I personally think it's the best looking vessel in the game.

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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,774 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    The same could be said of the Prometheus.

    Yep, and Thomas himself said he could see an argument for giving the Prometheus a Legendary at some point. I'm not saying a Legendary Nova is gonna happen any time soon, only that I think it's a good possibility somewhere down the line.
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  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Well, whilst this opinion is completely subjective, I personally think it's the best looking vessel in the game.

    It definitely looks really awsome now. While I don't have "one favorite" ship of all time, the Nova has always been close to my heart. It'd be the ship I would love to command. Not too many people to manage, and planetary research seems pretty neat to me as an assignment.
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,143 Arc User
    bout darn time!!!

    looks good. thx cryptic and everyone who waited. i think the OP should get one for free though. :smiley:
  • edrickvellorinedrickvellorin Member Posts: 345 Arc User
    One of the benefits of buying a Legendary ship is getting the consoles of it's variants. As far as I know, the only Nova variant with a console is the Rhode Island, so I think a Legendary Nova would come, if it does, sometime well after at least one T6 version is released.
    rattler2 wrote: »
    A little observation about the timing of this update: Prodigy premiers October 28th. Which makes me think that maybe the T6 Nova will be the Protostar's class. (I've been thinking something like that could happen ever since I saw the Protostar.) Maybe there will be news on Ten Forward tomorrow, or on next week's Ten Forward.

    At the moment its more coincidence. Don't forget that it took at least one season before we got something from Discovery and Lower Decks. Until more evidence is given... its just coincidence.

    It is just speculation at this point. On one hand, CBS has apparently been working better with STO then it has in the past, like the fact that the STO Kirk model is basically the CBS model modified to STO standards. On the other hand, Prodigy is a cartoon and they have said that it's harder to adapt the cartoon stuff to STO's style. On the other hand, the Parliament is in game now, so progress on that has been made. So, who knows. We'll just have to wait and see. But it wouldn't surprise me if CBS and Cryptic decided to try and get the Protostar in game close to Prodigy's premier in order to try and get people from STO to watch Prodigy when it starts. Again, just speculation.

    Back to the model update itself, it does look a lot better in the Before/After shots. May have to have some of my Sci chars try and get the Fleet T5 version. Not sure if I've got Rhode Island version or not. Might have gotten it from a giveaway code.
  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited October 2021
    bout darn time!!!

    looks good. thx cryptic and everyone who waited. i think the OP should get one for free though. :smiley:

    Since only the model/texture is being updated (for now) the OP already *has* it.

    There's only 4 versions of it ingame. Normal and Refit T2, Fleet and mirror for T5(U)
  • keepcalmchiveonkeepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,143 Arc User
    bout darn time!!!

    looks good. thx cryptic and everyone who waited. i think the OP should get one for free though. :smiley:

    Since only the model/texture is being updated (for now) the OP already *has* it.

    yeah, figured that out after i hit send...lol.

    (free T6 for OP when it comes out)
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,823 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    nccmark wrote: »
    Maybe this means not only an incoming T6, but a Legendary T6?

    That would be nice for y'all who have been waiting years for a T6 version

    Normal T6 yes.

    Unless i am missing something there is no mention of a T6 version, but this may happen if/when the Nova/Rhode Island is featured in a new patrol or mission.

    Do the devs realize that instead of the familiar questions/requests for a T6 Nova they will soon(ish) be bombarded with an avalanche of NEW questions/requests?
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • redeyedravenredeyedraven Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    Do the devs realize that instead of the familiar questions/requests for a T6 Nova they will soon(ish) be bombarded with an avalanche of NEW questions/requests?

    One or two of them might have realized after they published the related newsblog. And these were not the ones who *should* realize it.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,081 Arc User
    Well, it looks fabulous at least. Worth the wait? Matter of personal taste, I suppose. Here's hoping this means a T6 nova is at the drawing boards now. Ship of the line bundle anyone?
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 55,676 Community Moderator
    questerius wrote: »
    Unless i am missing something there is no mention of a T6 version, but this may happen if/when the Nova/Rhode Island is featured in a new patrol or mission.

    Well... look at some of the past ships that got a model revamp. The Luna was untouched for years, then not only got a remodel, but a T6. The Steamrunner also got a T6 alongside a model revamp.

    On the other hand the Prometheus and Akira both got a model revamp while already having a T6.

    In all honesty I'm leaning towards a T6 Nova coming soon as Cryptic has said there are more ships coming. The problem is that when Cryptic says that, most people jump to conclusions and conspiracy theories rather than just take a wait and see approach. I'd say the likelyhood of a T6 Nova is pretty high right now.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,646 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Gotta hand it to Tobias Richter. Dude's practically a master artist with the game engine. Everything he puts out is awesome so far.

    I'm actually reminded of some of the old Armada 2 mods that were model replacements for existing things like ships.
    The quality was so high... you wouldn't believe it was the same game when you compared the models to the stock ones. Same thing here. Comparing the new model with the old, launch era model... you'd swear it was a different game.

    Not to mention the stuff modders did for Starfleet Command 3 and Birth of the Federation (which I still play!).

    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,558 Arc User
    Logged in today to peek. Not live just yet. Assuming after tomorrows cross-platform updates scheduled on Wednesday. Nova Party after Shatner lands upon the Planet of the Apes? :D
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  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 629 Arc User
    I can't wait for a T6 Nova so I can watch half the players TRIBBLE about it! :D
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,538 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    Unless i am missing something there is no mention of a T6 version, but this may happen if/when the Nova/Rhode Island is featured in a new patrol or mission.

    Well... look at some of the past ships that got a model revamp. The Luna was untouched for years, then not only got a remodel, but a T6. The Steamrunner also got a T6 alongside a model revamp.

    On the other hand the Prometheus and Akira both got a model revamp while already having a T6.

    In all honesty I'm leaning towards a T6 Nova coming soon as Cryptic has said there are more ships coming. The problem is that when Cryptic says that, most people jump to conclusions and conspiracy theories rather than just take a wait and see approach. I'd say the likelyhood of a T6 Nova is pretty high right now.

    Yeah, I'm assuming that there is a T6 verson in the pipeline too - mostly because I find it really difficult to believe they'd commission Tobias Richter to "rebuild the models from the ground up" without any ROI.

    However, whilst I'd certainly love to see a T6 version, I can honestly say (and have been saying this for years) that I was always more hopeful that the model would receive attention; I got my wish and for me, a T6 version would just be the icing on an already delicious cake.
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