Legendary Miranda revealed

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  • lianthelia
    lianthelia Member Posts: 7,691 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    A little over 5 years ago they released the Agents of Yesterday Pack, for 15'000 Zen. It included
    • 1 T1 ship
    • 1 T2 ship
    • 1 T3 ship
    • 1 T4 ship
    • 1 T5 ship
    • 7 (!!!) T6 ships
    • 6 costumes, 3 tech upgrades, 6 temporal qualifications, 1 unique boff, 1space suit, 3 titles

    Today we get 1 T6 ship, filler stuff, 1 lvl 65 boost.. for 12'000 Zen

    How times have changed...

    Back when there was some pride in the game and it wasn't just seen as a cash cow to milk the fans

    Those were the days...
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  • nommo#5819
    nommo#5819 Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    A little over 5 years ago they released the Agents of Yesterday Pack, for 15'000 Zen. It included
    • 1 T1 ship
    • 1 T2 ship
    • 1 T3 ship
    • 1 T4 ship
    • 1 T5 ship
    • 7 (!!!) T6 ships
    • 6 costumes, 3 tech upgrades, 6 temporal qualifications, 1 unique boff, 1space suit, 3 titles

    Today we get 1 T6 ship, filler stuff, 1 lvl 65 boost.. for 12'000 Zen

    How times have changed...

    If enough of us, as a collective not individually, purchase the packs & bundles though I don't blame Cryptic completely since they're operating a business & us, at a certain percentage, are purchasing them.

    But indeed, "How times have changed..." & probably not for the better value for consumers.
  • warmonger360
    warmonger360 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    I would think it's more a frigate than a cruiser, and where are the destroyers, a Constitution class primary hull with a single nacelle attached to the bottom of the neck?
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,012 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    The timing is very, very poor here.

    actually is perfect timing since the Temp Recruit is coming as well.

    No, you do not get what I mean. (And I think you didn't read the rest of my post).

    The timing is poor because you have a legendary pack already released one month ago and the Clark is effectively a miranda, not officially, but it is, even has the miranda remodel ect. If they seriously wanted to release a legendary pack, they could have picked anything else that was ToS themed or something.

    Look, I looked over the ships raw stats they are great and all, but it just boils down to it being just to soon. Even with the Temp Recruit coming up, the timing is still poor. One friend of mine even mentioned something like the Ranger-class or something. While I get they had to pick ships based on shows and movies, it still just makes the timing bad.

    oh but i did. and i stand by the fact the timing is perfect. you made your points as to why you think opposite, but i dont agree. on the surface, timing for this is spot on.
    meh

  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    The timing is very, very poor here.

    actually is perfect timing since the Temp Recruit is coming as well.

    No, you do not get what I mean. (And I think you didn't read the rest of my post).

    The timing is poor because you have a legendary pack already released one month ago and the Clark is effectively a miranda, not officially, but it is, even has the miranda remodel ect. If they seriously wanted to release a legendary pack, they could have picked anything else that was ToS themed or something.

    Look, I looked over the ships raw stats they are great and all, but it just boils down to it being just to soon. Even with the Temp Recruit coming up, the timing is still poor. One friend of mine even mentioned something like the Ranger-class or something. While I get they had to pick ships based on shows and movies, it still just makes the timing bad.

    The Clarke is what was poorly timed, not the Legendary. They should've either pushed it out to next year, or not allowed people to kitbash it with the Miranda unless they owned the Legendary Miranda.
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  • sennahcherib
    sennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    @sennahcherib

    That kind of investment out of the gate doesn't strike me as an offering for new players. The cost is high for someone new because they aren't invested in the game to that degree. I don't think a character that shoots straight to 65 is a good learning experience for a new player either; Especially if the event accelerates promotion as it has in the past. I wouldn't suggest this package to a new player and unless the Miranda was their favorite ship in the franchise I would still actively steer them away from it.

    This ship is for a Fed fan who has a lot of stuff. A completionist who likes the Miranda, and has more disposable income than enjoyment they might have in leveling a new captain. It could also place that person in a position where they take on an alt if they don't have one. It might be for an alt a holic. Who fits most of the same profile. Maybe a TOS fan. There aren't many TOS styled ships you can buy, "off the rack" and it is a pretty ship. They may or may not value the jump to level 65 so it will, or won't factor into their valuation of the package. A 50% off sale is for anyone who has the money and buys things they don't want because spending 50% of what you wouldn't have spent is a, "bargain".

    Definitely a combination drawn from the latter group over the former.

    Ok, it is a strange strategy from cryptic, but not surprising. after all, their favorites customers are and will be always the whales.
    At least, it means my wallet will stay closed for a long time, as I don't need more ships and nothing else will be added in the c-store.
    A 50% off sale is for anyone who has the money and buys things they don't want because spending 50% of what you wouldn't have spent is a, "bargain".

    pathetic consumerism, imo.



  • westmetals
    westmetals Member Posts: 8,256 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    A little over 5 years ago they released the Agents of Yesterday Pack, for 15'000 Zen. It included
    • 1 T1 ship
    • 1 T2 ship
    • 1 T3 ship
    • 1 T4 ship
    • 1 T5 ship
    • 7 (!!!) T6 ships
    • 6 costumes, 3 tech upgrades, 6 temporal qualifications, 1 unique boff, 1space suit, 3 titles

    Today we get 1 T6 ship, filler stuff, 1 lvl 65 boost.. for 12'000 Zen

    How times have changed...

    That was when it was a brand new faction, though.
  • horridperson
    horridperson Member Posts: 659 Arc User
    Ok, it is a strange strategy from cryptic, but not surprising. after all, their favorites customers are and will be always the whales.
    At least, it means my wallet will stay closed for a long time, as I don't need more ships and nothing else will be added in the c-store.

    How is it strange? If the money is coming from a particular demographic why wouldn't that be their primary target market? While the game has a FTP model when the definition of customer has broadened significantly enough to encompass players who aren't contributing to the companies' income that appropriation seems a misnomer. I don't understand the resentment toward "whales". If there weren't "whales" spending real currency on the game there likely wouldn't be a game to play at all.
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  • drunkflux#5679
    drunkflux#5679 Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    The timing is very, very poor here.

    actually is perfect timing since the Temp Recruit is coming as well.

    No, you do not get what I mean. (And I think you didn't read the rest of my post).

    The timing is poor because you have a legendary pack already released one month ago and the Clark is effectively a miranda, not officially, but it is, even has the miranda remodel ect. If they seriously wanted to release a legendary pack, they could have picked anything else that was ToS themed or something.

    Look, I looked over the ships raw stats they are great and all, but it just boils down to it being just to soon. Even with the Temp Recruit coming up, the timing is still poor. One friend of mine even mentioned something like the Ranger-class or something. While I get they had to pick ships based on shows and movies, it still just makes the timing bad.

    The Clarke is what was poorly timed, not the Legendary. They should've either pushed it out to next year, or not allowed people to kitbash it with the Miranda unless they owned the Legendary Miranda.

    Firstly never say "Should have" or "Shouldn't have" in this situation, your kind of just trying to blame prior decisions in this case.

    The first decision is the more relevant one, but could they have even made the decision for a new miranda right away? I mean they had the legendary scimitar and d'deredix released a month ago. That alone would still have made this new pack poorly timed, even without the clark released.

    But they released the Clark first, that cannot be changed. Likewise, I suspect people wouldn't have purchased it at all if they could have obtained the legendary miranda before it.

    Releasing a legendary Miranda makes no sense purely because it lost it's sense the instant they CHOSE to release the Clark first. What this is, is effectively trying to change decisions or not making up there mind.

    First decision or choice between two always is more relevant, and the one you have to stand by. A year later, perhaps, a legendary Miranda would have been smarter to release THEN.

    (No, this is not a prior decision we are discussing, this is a CURRENT decision they made.)
    oh but i did. and i stand by the fact the timing is perfect. you made your points as to why you think opposite, but i dont agree. on the surface, timing for this is spot on.

    Perhaps it's good timing for you but for a majority who have already purchased the Clark, it's not. And it's NOT the fault of those who purchased the clark.

    *No one could have predicted the legendary Miranda coming out due to the Clark being released such a short time earlier.
    *Even less people would have expected it due to the Legendary Pack released litterally a month after the clark was released.
    *You have litterally 1 month between the prior Legendary Pack and this Legendary Pack.

    I get that the temporal operative event is here, again though, that doesn't change the prior decisions already made and in place. What would they do? Go back in time and undo the Clark and Legendary Rom pack?


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  • jonsills
    jonsills Member Posts: 9,729 Arc User
    I would think it's more a frigate than a cruiser, and where are the destroyers, a Constitution class primary hull with a single nacelle attached to the bottom of the neck?
    Official word from the IP owners is that Starfleet doesn't use "destroyers" (that's why we wink and say "escort). And the design you cite, the Saladin-class if I recall correctly, is from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual, with ship designs by Franz Joseph, and there are apparently copyright issues with those. Pity, too - I always thought the Kobayashi Maru would look more sensible as an updated version of a Ptolemy-class tug, with a couple of cargo modules in tow. Sadly, such is not to be...

    Now, there is a TOS-style "escort", the Gemini-class, and while it's only T3 or T4, its skin can be used on the T6 Sagittarius-class temporal escort, so we're not without such a ship, just not the design from FJ.
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  • sennahcherib
    sennahcherib Member Posts: 2,823 Arc User
    Ok, it is a strange strategy from cryptic, but not surprising. after all, their favorites customers are and will be always the whales.
    At least, it means my wallet will stay closed for a long time, as I don't need more ships and nothing else will be added in the c-store.

    How is it strange? If the money is coming from a particular demographic why wouldn't that be their primary target market? While the game has a FTP model when the definition of customer has broadened significantly enough to encompass players who aren't contributing to the companies' income that appropriation seems a misnomer. I don't understand the resentment toward "whales". If there weren't "whales" spending real currency on the game there likely wouldn't be a game to play at all.

    I don't have resentment toward whale, I was a kind of whale 2 years ago. Strange, because their target is only a minority, and a lot of players are forgotten. (I mean, their wallets are forgotten). it is maybe important to pleased their primary target, but they should also try to attrack new players, and having more stuff to sell than ships and bundles.
  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    The timing is very, very poor here.

    actually is perfect timing since the Temp Recruit is coming as well.

    No, you do not get what I mean. (And I think you didn't read the rest of my post).

    The timing is poor because you have a legendary pack already released one month ago and the Clark is effectively a miranda, not officially, but it is, even has the miranda remodel ect. If they seriously wanted to release a legendary pack, they could have picked anything else that was ToS themed or something.

    Look, I looked over the ships raw stats they are great and all, but it just boils down to it being just to soon. Even with the Temp Recruit coming up, the timing is still poor. One friend of mine even mentioned something like the Ranger-class or something. While I get they had to pick ships based on shows and movies, it still just makes the timing bad.

    The Clarke is what was poorly timed, not the Legendary. They should've either pushed it out to next year, or not allowed people to kitbash it with the Miranda unless they owned the Legendary Miranda.

    Firstly never say "Should have" or "Shouldn't have" in this situation, your kind of just trying to blame prior decisions in this case.

    The first decision is the more relevant one, but could they have even made the decision for a new miranda right away? I mean they had the legendary scimitar and d'deredix released a month ago. That alone would still have made this new pack poorly timed, even without the clark released.

    But they released the Clark first, that cannot be changed. Likewise, I suspect people wouldn't have purchased it at all if they could have obtained the legendary miranda before it.

    Releasing a legendary Miranda makes no sense purely because it lost it's sense the instant they CHOSE to release the Clark first. What this is, is effectively trying to change decisions or not making up there mind.

    First decision or choice between two always is more relevant, and the one you have to stand by. A year later, perhaps, a legendary Miranda would have been smarter to release THEN.

    (No, this is not a prior decision we are discussing, this is a CURRENT decision they made.)
    You clearly don't understand how these decisions are made, BOTH of these ships would have been on the schedule at least six months ago, probably even longer than that. They knew the approximately when they would release the Legendary Miranda long before the Clarke went on the store, and with that being the case it is the Clarke that was poorly timed. The Legendary Miranda is PERFECTLY timed for maximum sales due to it being Star Trek Day, it being a TOS ship released simultaneously with a TOS rectruit event, AND it including a boost right when people are going to be encouraged to make brand new characters.
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  • warmonger360
    warmonger360 Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I would think it's more a frigate than a cruiser, and where are the destroyers, a Constitution class primary hull with a single nacelle attached to the bottom of the neck?
    Official word from the IP owners is that Starfleet doesn't use "destroyers" (that's why we wink and say "escort). And the design you cite, the Saladin-class if I recall correctly, is from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual, with ship designs by Franz Joseph, and there are apparently copyright issues with those. Pity, too - I always thought the Kobayashi Maru would look more sensible as an updated version of a Ptolemy-class tug, with a couple of cargo modules in tow. Sadly, such is not to be...

    Now, there is a TOS-style "escort", the Gemini-class, and while it's only T3 or T4, its skin can be used on the T6 Sagittarius-class temporal escort, so we're not without such a ship, just not the design from FJ.

    that's most unfortunate, it is Saladin class and I have that manual, about the copyright. wasn't Kobayashi maru a freighter? that always bothered me ever since it was added
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  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    wasn't Kobayashi maru a freighter? that always bothered me ever since it was added

    In TWoK it wasn't actually shown on screen, ST09 showed a JJ version of it when Kirk cheated the test and the STO ship is essentially a TMP version of that design.
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,012 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    Perhaps it's good timing for you but for a majority who have already purchased the Clark, it's not. And it's NOT the fault of those who purchased the clark.

    *No one could have predicted the legendary Miranda coming out due to the Clark being released such a short time earlier.
    *Even less people would have expected it due to the Legendary Pack released litterally a month after the clark was released.
    *You have litterally 1 month between the prior Legendary Pack and this Legendary Pack.

    I get that the temporal operative event is here, again though, that doesn't change the prior decisions already made and in place. What would they do? Go back in time and undo the Clark and Legendary Rom pack?

    not my issue if people bought the clark, now is it?

    same can be said for any number of things in life. cars..next years model might be better, maybe not. laptops...buy one on sale, but find out two months later a slightly better one is on sale...it happens mate.

    am i saying it doesnt look bad or feel like a let down from your perspective? nope. but that is your view, not everyones. i dont buy packs, nay...bought two on sale...with Zen from lifer sub, during my tenure with STO from beta.

    if i buy this one, its because i like it...and since a certain ship from 10th anni legendary has yet to make a solo appearance, this may be my best bet to come close.

    and you cant say majority. neither you, nor i, know anything about the purchase habits of anyone in this game, aside from yourself, and maybe family members, and close friends.

    timing is still good.
    meh

  • drunkflux#5679
    drunkflux#5679 Member Posts: 195 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    laughinxan wrote: »
    The timing is very, very poor here.

    actually is perfect timing since the Temp Recruit is coming as well.

    No, you do not get what I mean. (And I think you didn't read the rest of my post).

    The timing is poor because you have a legendary pack already released one month ago and the Clark is effectively a miranda, not officially, but it is, even has the miranda remodel ect. If they seriously wanted to release a legendary pack, they could have picked anything else that was ToS themed or something.

    Look, I looked over the ships raw stats they are great and all, but it just boils down to it being just to soon. Even with the Temp Recruit coming up, the timing is still poor. One friend of mine even mentioned something like the Ranger-class or something. While I get they had to pick ships based on shows and movies, it still just makes the timing bad.

    The Clarke is what was poorly timed, not the Legendary. They should've either pushed it out to next year, or not allowed people to kitbash it with the Miranda unless they owned the Legendary Miranda.

    Firstly never say "Should have" or "Shouldn't have" in this situation, your kind of just trying to blame prior decisions in this case.

    The first decision is the more relevant one, but could they have even made the decision for a new miranda right away? I mean they had the legendary scimitar and d'deredix released a month ago. That alone would still have made this new pack poorly timed, even without the clark released.

    But they released the Clark first, that cannot be changed. Likewise, I suspect people wouldn't have purchased it at all if they could have obtained the legendary miranda before it.

    Releasing a legendary Miranda makes no sense purely because it lost it's sense the instant they CHOSE to release the Clark first. What this is, is effectively trying to change decisions or not making up there mind.

    First decision or choice between two always is more relevant, and the one you have to stand by. A year later, perhaps, a legendary Miranda would have been smarter to release THEN.

    (No, this is not a prior decision we are discussing, this is a CURRENT decision they made.)
    You clearly don't understand how these decisions are made, BOTH of these ships would have been on the schedule at least six months ago, probably even longer than that. They knew the approximately when they would release the Legendary Miranda long before the Clarke went on the store, and with that being the case it is the Clarke that was poorly timed. The Legendary Miranda is PERFECTLY timed for maximum sales due to it being Star Trek Day, it being a TOS ship released simultaneously with a TOS rectruit event, AND it including a boost right when people are going to be encouraged to make brand new characters.

    Perhaps we should agree to disagree then, my mind isn't changing, I still think this is poor timing due to the prior releases in the last two months.

    I mean even some whales could get burned out from this.


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  • vetteguy904
    vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,374 Arc User
    edited September 2021
    I think they could have done a pioneer, a TOS version of Nova or a TOS version of the Kelvin but even then it's a no for me. $60 for a ship? pass. I won't use the other junk, and I'm not a need it /deserve now person
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  • drunkflux#5679
    drunkflux#5679 Member Posts: 195 Arc User

    not my issue if people bought the clark, now is it?

    So......"It hasn't happened to me thus who cares?" basically(yes, thats what your saying when you say "Not my issue if people did x statement")? Yeah we know those things happen but really man? Have you any capacity to put yourself in other peoples shoes?

    Your choice whether you get the pack man, but really, have you seriously, for five seconds considered that maybe other ships could have been chosen that fit the ToS era? No? I didn't think so.

    Friend of mine brought up there were multiple ToS themed ships they could have chosen from, they chose a miranda, which sure, iconic to a movie but they already released a ship with updated miranda skins. Even if they made these decisions long in advance, that case it's just blatently poor planning, choose one pack/ship to release or the other and wait like a year or something.

    Needed something with the temporal operative event? Maybe another ToS ship, even a ship they already had, could be promoted to legendary? If they absolutely HAD to make a ship a legendary then perhaps maybe then yeah, they had to do as evilmark stated(which is practically just hindsight). Maybe not release the Clark.

    I also speak in terms of how many sales they may well have LOST with the overall timing, even whales may think twice after having already gotten the legendary scimitar pack(really, it should just be called that :P), a bit more-so after having gotten the clark, unless the trait is extremely good. I am myself considering if I should or not, it's become a very unclear decision for me, and i'm leaning against it. When otherwise, if not for the Clark released or say, this pack released a year from now I totally could easily have been screaming "Take my money!". If the legendary pack they announced was a different ship, I wouldn't be quite on the fence so much.

    It's practically all riding on the trait, and I doubt it's going to be the best if it's just energy weapons, already stated earlier I'm loaded up to my eyeballs in shield pen on my characters.


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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,012 Arc User
    laughinxan wrote: »

    not my issue if people bought the clark, now is it?

    So......"It hasn't happened to me thus who cares?" basically(yes, thats what your saying when you say "Not my issue if people did x statement")? Yeah we know those things happen but really man? Have you any capacity to put yourself in other peoples shoes?

    Your choice whether you get the pack man, but really, have you seriously, for five seconds considered that maybe other ships could have been chosen that fit the ToS era? No? I didn't think so.

    Friend of mine brought up there were multiple ToS themed ships they could have chosen from, they chose a miranda, which sure, iconic to a movie but they already released a ship with updated miranda skins. Even if they made these decisions long in advance, that case it's just blatently poor planning, choose one pack/ship to release or the other and wait like a year or something.

    Needed something with the temporal operative event? Maybe another ToS ship, even a ship they already had, could be promoted to legendary? If they absolutely HAD to make a ship a legendary then perhaps maybe then yeah, they had to do as evilmark stated(which is practically just hindsight). Maybe not release the Clark.

    I also speak in terms of how many sales they may well have LOST with the overall timing, even whales may think twice after having already gotten the legendary scimitar pack(really, it should just be called that :P), a bit more-so after having gotten the clark, unless the trait is extremely good. I am myself considering if I should or not, it's become a very unclear decision for me, and i'm leaning against it. When otherwise, if not for the Clark released or say, this pack released a year from now I totally could easily have been screaming "Take my money!". If the legendary pack they announced was a different ship, I wouldn't be quite on the fence so much.

    It's practically all riding on the trait, and I doubt it's going to be the best if it's just energy weapons, already stated earlier I'm loaded up to my eyeballs in shield pen on my characters.

    rage much mate. let me put this in better terms you might get. I DONT CARE!

    your multi paragraph reply is not swaying me either way. could "they" (as in cryptic) chosen a diff ship...sure. did they? nope.

    your timing and dislike to the planning cryptic made should not be reflected upon me. do i need to wear your shoes in this case...nope.

    if you feel the need to bash anyone, bash cryptic. not me.

    again, its perfect timing, period. you can either "not" get it, or "get it."
    meh

  • jonsills
    jonsills Member Posts: 9,729 Arc User
    jonsills wrote: »
    I would think it's more a frigate than a cruiser, and where are the destroyers, a Constitution class primary hull with a single nacelle attached to the bottom of the neck?
    Official word from the IP owners is that Starfleet doesn't use "destroyers" (that's why we wink and say "escort). And the design you cite, the Saladin-class if I recall correctly, is from the old Star Fleet Technical Manual, with ship designs by Franz Joseph, and there are apparently copyright issues with those. Pity, too - I always thought the Kobayashi Maru would look more sensible as an updated version of a Ptolemy-class tug, with a couple of cargo modules in tow. Sadly, such is not to be...

    Now, there is a TOS-style "escort", the Gemini-class, and while it's only T3 or T4, its skin can be used on the T6 Sagittarius-class temporal escort, so we're not without such a ship, just not the design from FJ.

    that's most unfortunate, it is Saladin class and I have that manual, about the copyright. wasn't Kobayashi maru a freighter? that always bothered me ever since it was added
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  • discojer2#5455
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    szim wrote: »
    A little over 5 years ago they released the Agents of Yesterday Pack, for 15'000 Zen. It included
    • 1 T1 ship
    • 1 T2 ship
    • 1 T3 ship
    • 1 T4 ship
    • 1 T5 ship
    • 7 (!!!) T6 ships
    • 6 costumes, 3 tech upgrades, 6 temporal qualifications, 1 unique boff, 1space suit, 3 titles

    Today we get 1 T6 ship, filler stuff, 1 lvl 65 boost.. for 12'000 Zen

    How times have changed...

    On the flip side, they went through all that trouble in making starships almost no one uses anymore because none of them were particularly good.

    The Legendary Miranda isn't very good, either, but it's decent enough that some people will choose to use it
  • redeyedraven
    redeyedraven Member Posts: 1,292 Arc User
    The Legendary Miranda isn't very good, either, but it's decent enough that some people will choose to use it

    Umm.. it's gonna be better than the temporal TOS starships from the R&D-promo, actually - and those are still fairly decent.
  • vonhellsting
    vonhellsting Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    They're slapping on attack shuttles on a Miranda? O.o At this point any ship with a shuttle bay can be considered a tactical carrier. :s
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  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,511 Arc User
    Model certainly looks very nice.

    Not something I'm spending money on though. Firstly because I already have the T6 Miranda, T6 Fleet Miranda, T6 Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin), T6 Fleet Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin).

    Secondly because I'm not paying that amount of money for a skin and a a sack of fluff that is of no interest to me.
  • corinthalas
    corinthalas Member Posts: 1,980 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Model certainly looks very nice.

    Not something I'm spending money on though. Firstly because I already have the T6 Miranda, T6 Fleet Miranda, T6 Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin), T6 Fleet Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin).

    Secondly because I'm not paying that amount of money for a skin and a a sack of fluff that is of no interest to me.

    I'm kind of in the same boat. I *might* consider it, but at the same time, I don't much care about the extras in the package either. It's too bad they don't set up these legendary bundles like Mudd offerings -- the price remains the same, but the player gets to pick from a list of different addons to go with the ship -- some of which can be chosen multiple times, the packs would come in an account-bound box, and might include some of the following:

    Auto-boost a captain of your choice to level 65 (must complete tutorial first).
    A pack of very rare, faction-appropriate, account-bound Ground and Space equipment that scales to your captain's level (scales up to Mk 14).
    A pack of 6 commander-rank bridge officers with all basic skills learned and pre-equipped with faction-appropriate MK14 equipment, 6 specialization manuals of your choice, and 6 bridge officer slots.
    A pack of 2 commander-rank bridge officers with all specializations and bridge officer skills learned.
    A pack of ultimate upgrade tokens (number TBD).
    A pack of Reputation Buyout tokens (number TBD).
    A pack of R&D advanced starter tokens that advance the school of your choice to level 15 (number TBD).
    A pack of additional ship and drydock slots (number TBD).
    A pack of 36 inventory slots and 12 bank slots.
    A large currency pack, which includes 1,000,000 energy credits, 1,000,000 expertise, and 250,000 Reputation Dilithium Vouchers.
  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,012 Arc User
    They're slapping on attack shuttles on a Miranda? O.o At this point any ship with a shuttle bay can be considered a tactical carrier. :s

    not sure class f shuttles would fall into the "attack" category you envision
    meh

  • vonhellsting
    vonhellsting Member Posts: 540 Arc User
    They're slapping on attack shuttles on a Miranda? O.o At this point any ship with a shuttle bay can be considered a tactical carrier. :s

    not sure class f shuttles would fall into the "attack" category you envision

    Well I'm just saying the Miranda is a small ship it doesn't make sense for it to be launching shuttles like a carrier. What separates the Miranda from any other ship with an average hanger bay?
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  • meimeitoo
    meimeitoo Member Posts: 12,395 Arc User
    edited September 2021
    lianthelia wrote: »
    szim wrote: »
    A little over 5 years ago they released the Agents of Yesterday Pack, for 15'000 Zen. It included
    • 1 T1 ship
    • 1 T2 ship
    • 1 T3 ship
    • 1 T4 ship
    • 1 T5 ship
    • 7 (!!!) T6 ships
    • 6 costumes, 3 tech upgrades, 6 temporal qualifications, 1 unique boff, 1space suit, 3 titles

    Today we get 1 T6 ship, filler stuff, 1 lvl 65 boost.. for 12'000 Zen

    How times have changed...

    Back when there was some pride in the game and it wasn't just seen as a cash cow to milk the fans

    Those were the days...


    I 'recently' got a lv 65 pack for my Klink. Forgot what it cost exactly, but it came with a Legendary D7, and was affordable. If Bort and his cronies think I'm going to plunk down 12,000 Zen for a Legendary Miranda + lv 65, he needs to be doing some hard rethinking (he was due for one anyway, what with his latest token-robbery scheme and all).
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  • meimeitoo
    meimeitoo Member Posts: 12,395 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Model certainly looks very nice.

    Not something I'm spending money on though. Firstly because I already have the T6 Miranda, T6 Fleet Miranda, T6 Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin), T6 Fleet Clarke (which can use the Miranda Skin).

    Secondly because I'm not paying that amount of money for a skin and a a sack of fluff that is of no interest to me.


    Indeed. Already got the new Fleet T6 Miranda they released like a year ago or so. The rest is BS filler.
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