Next Legendary Ship (Pack) - Your Favorites

eristhevorta
eristhevorta Member Posts: 1,048 Bug Hunter
My favorites for a future legendary ship or bundle:

Alien Starships:

:: Negh'var
:: Bortas'qu
:: Mogai (Valdore)
:: Dominion Battleship (based on the T5 / T6 Dreadnought)
:: Dominion Attack Ship (based on T6 Strike / Recon)
:: Keldon / Galor (reskin options, based on T6 Keldon)

FED Escorts:

:: Prometheus
:: Akira (Geronimo)
:: Saber
:: Steamrunner

FED Cruisers:

:: Constellation (Stargazer)
:: Miranda (Reliant / Saratoga)
:: Centaur

FED Science Vessels:

:: Nebula (Phoenix)
:: Oberth (Tsiolkovsky)
:: Nova (Rhode Island / Equinox)
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  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    Imo the next bundle will be one of three possibilities:
    1) TOS boost bundle with Legendary Miranda (TOS inspired reskin)
    2) 2409 Fed boost bundle (not sure what ship they'll use here, Prometheus maybe? Or Inquiry?)
    3) Dominion bundle of some kind (probably the Attack Ship, maybe the Dreadnought Carrier)
    :: Dominion Battlecruiser (based on T6 Light Battlecruiser)
    Unfortunately this one doesn't meet Bort's newly invented criteria that a ship have at least two in-game variants available before it can have a Legendary variant.
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  • redeyedraven
    redeyedraven Member Posts: 1,292 Arc User
    KDF
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasqu'
    DOM
    • Bug Ship

    I personally think that either a KDF or DOM double-feature are pretty likely.

    I'd *love* a Negh'Var that doesn't sukk.
  • westx211
    westx211 Member Posts: 41,707 Arc User
    My favorites for a future legendary ship or bundle:

    Alien Starships:

    :: Negh'var
    :: Bortas'qu
    :: Mogai (Valdore)
    :: Dominion Battlecruiser (based on T6 Light Battlecruiser)
    :: Dominion Attack Ship (based on T6 Strike / Recon)
    :: Keldon / Galor (reskin options, based on T6 Keldon)

    FED Escorts:

    :: Prometheus
    :: Akira (Geronimo)
    :: Saber
    :: Steamrunner

    FED Cruisers:

    :: Constellation (Stargazer)
    :: Miranda (Reliant / Saratoga)
    :: Centaur

    FED Science Vessels:

    :: Nebula (Phoenix)
    :: Oberth (Tsiolkovsky)
    :: Nova (Rhode Island / Equinox)

    A Jem'hadar Attack ship would be rather nice, I'd like to see it with a more exotic boff layout than the original versions.

    A Keldon would be interesting, they'd have an easy option for a skin, the skin could be a Keldon that's based on the Cardassian Intel ships that Cryptic released.

    Could put them both in a dual pack.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134
    fleetcaptain5#1134 Member Posts: 3,235 Arc User
    I'm not a fan of the Legendary stuff, in general. For the first bundle, it was appropriate as it celebrated STO's 10th anniversary, also with an episode which had all the hero ships from the shows in it.

    Now it just seems ever more to be another way to milk the player base by selling the same ships again (after some of those had already been put in the packs that make them the most expensive ships in the game). Also, every new release makes the legendary less impressive (since they become less unique) and the existing ships even more so.

    Create something new instead. Cryptic has never had any trouble to come up with good designs themselves. Use the talent that's obviously present to create some new own designs.

    Or, if you really want to update older, existing ships, sell them in the same way that T6X-upgrade tokens or fleet modules are sold: by asking players to pay a small fee on top of the regular C-store ship to get additional unlocks.

    That would fit in with previous methods. It would also come off less as a cash grab as players wouldn't need to feel that their old purchase has suddenly become useless (which it kind of is now, cause the new ones grant access to all the older stuff as well).
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  • lianthelia
    lianthelia Member Posts: 7,691 Arc User
    Legendary Prometheus could be cool

    Wouldn't mind a legendary Ha'apax or Surhuelh could be nice

    Would love a Legendary Jem'hadar Dreadnought Carrier, preferably with the vanguard mechanic
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134
    fleetcaptain5#1134 Member Posts: 3,235 Arc User
    With all that having been said:

    I would like to see an update to / revamp of the Akira and the Vesta.

    The Akira should get a second hangar bay - if there's one Federation ship that deserves it, it's that one.

    For the Vesta I'd be happy with some visual changes. There needs to be a nacelle / stanchion option that puts the nacelles as far apart as the Esquiline does, but without the 'wrinkles' in the stanchions. The deflector needs to be changed so that it still has the right mass from the side, but without looking like a giant eye or something when using the Vesta skin.

    And add more windows, elongate some other parts. Lastly, change the way it flies. I want it to look and fly like a real cruiser, such as the Sovereign. That ship really is one of the most fun ships to steer and fly and more ships should act like it.
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  • nommo#5819
    nommo#5819 Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    Ships I expect they might do

    FED
    • Miranda
    KDF
    • Negh'var
    • Bortasqu'
    DOM
    • Bug Ship
    Other
    • D'kora
    • Galor
    :: Mogai (Valdore)
    :: Akira (Geronimo)
    :: Saber
    :: Steamrunner
    :: Nebula (Phoenix)
    None of these are particularly legendary ship classes
    :: Miranda (Reliant / Saratoga)
    :: Centaur
    These are just the same ship in STO

    This seems like a good list of potential candidates.
  • eristhevorta
    eristhevorta Member Posts: 1,048 Bug Hunter
    The D'Kora is a rather interesting choice, I would support that one, same with the Vesta. I edited my above post to replace the Light Battlecruiser with the "Battleship / Dreadnought", to meet Bort's criteria.
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    do we have to have another legendary pack at all? why cant we get some great T6s that look cool and have some neat things?

    im just tired of all the legendary BS. not trying to rain on yalls parade, but its getting old. for me. ymmv. :)

    carry on.
    meh

  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    do we have to have another legendary pack at all? why cant we get some great T6s that look cool and have some neat things?
    They've already confirmed they will be doing both. For normal T6s we already know the Steamrunner is coming later this year.
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  • lianthelia
    lianthelia Member Posts: 7,691 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    I forgot about the Bortasqu', was hoping it would get a legendary version back with the anniversary pack :(

    Perhaps legendary versions of the Kelvin and Discovery D7s to match all the Connies getting legendary
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    the issue that i see, is that everything will need to have a legendary counterpart since it is becoming the norm anymore.

    the days of legendary are gone. legendary is now the norm that everyone wants. it has lost any meaning of the word.
    meh

  • joshmaul
    joshmaul Member Posts: 517 Arc User
    the days of legendary are gone. legendary is now the norm that everyone wants. it has lost any meaning of the word.

    Having gotten them all (thank heavens for the gift of... well, gift cards), I'm inclined to agree. The 10th anniversary set was ABSOLUTELY worth it. The character boost ones and the mirror Gal-X were good as well. The rest... leaning to "meh".
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  • davefenestrator
    davefenestrator Member Posts: 9,790 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    Legendary Mat'Ha - give it an even better nose cannon console? A second console that buffs cannons, turn rate, and extends the barrage time + damage while cutting the cooldown in half?
  • faxmachine#9639
    faxmachine#9639 Member Posts: 119 Arc User
    i like your idea OP.

    a pack that lets you pick the ships you want.

    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.

    dont worry about them.

    they aren't devs.

    their opinions dont matter.

    you ask for what you want and let the devs decide. no players on thsi forum can tell you what you want isnt right.
  • avoozuul
    avoozuul Member Posts: 3,012 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    Promethius definitely needs a legendary version, also the Keldon so the Cardassians get something.
  • reyan01
    reyan01 Member Posts: 15,511 Arc User
    I guess I could see the Akira and Prometheus in a pack together with different specializations to their current versions.
  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.
    meh

  • evilmark444
    evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,769 Arc User
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.
    curious about this list..
    It's not a list (at least not publicly), just some criteria. Originally the only criteria stated was that a ship had to either be a hero ship or a ship that carried an episode, which I think is understandable even though it's a bit vague. Two weeks ago however Borticus stated on the Livestream that a ship needed to have an in-game lineage of at least two existing variants before it could be considered, which is complete nonsense imo considering the Disco Connie and the JJPrise only had one existing variant at the time that their Legendary was released (this was originally the criteria for the ships of the line bundles, which DID make sense considering what those bundles were intended to do).
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  • lianthelia
    lianthelia Member Posts: 7,691 Arc User
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.

    correct. and adding an unlimited bay to a smaller ship than a carrier takes away from carriers. which then reduces the carrier uniqueness, for many reasons, and thats a diff topic.

    meh

  • lianthelia
    lianthelia Member Posts: 7,691 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    lianthelia wrote: »
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.

    correct. and adding an unlimited bay to a smaller ship than a carrier takes away from carriers. which then reduces the carrier uniqueness, for many reasons, and thats a diff topic.

    Well I don't think that bothers them...ever since they changed flight deck cruisers to flight deck carriers they've left the inferior standard carriers completely untouched.

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  • maniac20#5251
    maniac20#5251 Member Posts: 253 Arc User
    There are a few nice ones here that would make great Legendary. The odds of a Keldon and Galor being among them are nil with both only having 1 variant each in game. It has already been mentioned for a ship to qualify for Legendary Status there has to be at least 2 variants of the ship in game. (with a couple exceptions in the 10th anni leg bundle)
  • kayajay
    kayajay Member Posts: 1,990 Arc User
    Nova/Rhode Island...yesterday, today and tomorrow. It's the most beautiful ship in the game, which is being tragically neglected. It's also being made in most desperate need, because of these awful 32nd Century "designs".
  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    lianthelia wrote: »
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.

    correct. and adding an unlimited bay to a smaller ship than a carrier takes away from carriers. which then reduces the carrier uniqueness, for many reasons, and thats a diff topic.

    Well I don't think that bothers them...ever since they changed flight deck cruisers to flight deck carriers they've left the inferior standard carriers completely untouched.

    Profits above gameplay should be their new motto

    no argument here....lol
    meh

  • corinthalas
    corinthalas Member Posts: 1,982 Arc User
    edited August 2021
    lianthelia wrote: »
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.

    correct. and adding an unlimited bay to a smaller ship than a carrier takes away from carriers. which then reduces the carrier uniqueness, for many reasons, and thats a diff topic.

    Answer: two different 'sizes' of hangar equip slots, small hangars and full hangars. Both size still deploy two 'wings' of ships, but the number of ships deployed depend on the hangar size. Small hangars only deploy a single ship per wing and would be restricted to strikecraft only. You would not be able to equip frigates or gunship in small hangar slots. Full hangars deploy the full compliment -- 3 craft per wing of strikecraft -- and can equip larger craft like frigates and gunships. And maybe even a new type of hangar pet with destroyers or escorts, but they can only launch one craft total (two of them would be like vanguard wingmen).

    Then you get to differentiate 'carriers' based on the kinds of bays they have. Full carriers would get two full hangars. Hybrid carriers would get 1 full hangar and 1 small hangar. And the rest would get one or two small hangars.
  • horridperson
    horridperson Member Posts: 659 Arc User
    I like the idea of the Bortas'qu. It's the flag of the Klingon Defence Force and there are already legendary interations of the Romulan and Federation flagships. It's not "Legendary" in that it has a pedigree that extends into Trek beyond STO but it is one of the designs the studio should be rightfully proud of designing in house.
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  • keepcalmchiveon
    keepcalmchiveon Member Posts: 4,015 Arc User
    lianthelia wrote: »
    also i noticed some people in this thread trying to poo poo some of the ships you named.
    I would love to see every Canon ship get the Legendary treatment, however the devs have mentioned certain criteria on their weekly Livestream. Since I'm aware that many people here do not watch those I make sure to pass on the information when it is relevant to a particular thread.

    And just to be clear I do not agree with much of the dev's stated criteria, especially since the newest one they invented was broken by two ships in the very first Legendary bundle.

    curious about this list..

    however, at some point, everything is going to have to be legendary, or nothing will sell. maybe not today, maybe not this year, but at some point.

    Well, I'm sure we will likely see more ships get the Miranda treatment, the T6 Miranda was your typical cruiser...but recently they released the new one and added a hangar to it.

    Adding a hangar to say a Defiant wouldn't make much sense, but many ships had shuttlebays that would be big enough...heck even the Defiant had some shuttlepods.

    correct. and adding an unlimited bay to a smaller ship than a carrier takes away from carriers. which then reduces the carrier uniqueness, for many reasons, and thats a diff topic.

    Answer: two different 'sizes' of hangar equip slots, small hangars and full hangars. Both size still deploy two 'wings' of ships, but the number of ships deployed depend on the hangar size. Small hangars only deploy a single ship per wing and would be restricted to strikecraft only. You would not be able to equip frigates or gunship in small hangar slots. Full hangars deploy the full compliment -- 3 craft per wing of strikecraft -- and can equip larger craft like frigates and gunships. And maybe even a new type of hangar pet with destroyers or escorts, but they can only launch one craft total (two of them would be like vanguard wingmen).

    Then you get to differentiate 'carriers' based on the kinds of bays they have. Full carriers would get two full hangars. Hybrid carriers would get 1 full hangar and 1 small hangar. And the rest would get one or two small hangars.

    good idea.
    meh