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Vanity Shields for Dilithium! aka the reason for the Dilithium Exchange being screwy?
kayajay
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I just saw the announcement, "Vanity Shields for Dilithium!" and I'm wondering...is that why the exchange is screwed-up at the moment?
I also can't believe they've got the cheek to be asking for 280,000 Dilithium for 10 vanity shields, which are character bound and include the DELIGHTFUL Ferengi, as well more of the most hideous shields out there.
I also can't believe they've got the cheek to be asking for 280,000 Dilithium for 10 vanity shields, which are character bound and include the DELIGHTFUL Ferengi, as well more of the most hideous shields out there.
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It's a lock box shield that goes for very high EC on the exchange, yours for about $5.50 worth of zen, Normally you have to win a weapon choice pack, then open it just to get a very slight chance at the vanity shield.
& then pray that later on Cryptic doesn't decide to release these vanity shields in Mudd's since Mudd's is account-wide.
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2: this is a really good deal. It costs less than just buying the S31 shield off the exchange by converting zen to EC.
3: this is intended to eat up dil. While account unlocks are nice, the entire purpose of this is to eat up as much dil as possible, hence requiring a purchase on every character you want it on.
Considering all 3 of the above, there is nothing valid to complain about here.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
You are absolutely right here. I think it's a great start.
Perhaps next they could add the obsoleted T5U lockbox and Lobi ships to the Phoenix Box as extra incentive to buy up some Dil??
The problem is these monthly sales and dilithium flooding, if the devs keep treating sto like it's a gacha game it's slowly but surely gonna fall apart
I don't think they'll put the T5s in the phoenix box considering they've been replacing most of them with T6 variants.
We do see the exchange rates react to a Phoenix Event though. But I will admit they need to slow down the events a bit due to event fatigue. But that's a double edged sword because guess why we got event spam? People complaining of lack of things to do. So... its partially our fault.
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Maybe they could add or create a new ground battlezone, which are more funny than the space battlezones, or something like the swtor flashpoints
I would like more things to do on Nimbus or they could extend the dyson ground battlezone.
they could add some of the old lobi costumes/uniformes in the phoenix boxe, or in the dil store. 280 000 dil for a vanity shield no thx, but for a costume, yes, sure. (nakhul, voth); but without a time restriction. It is hard for casual players to earn 280 000 dil in such a short time
> Maybe they could add or create a new ground battlezone, which are more funny than the space battlezones, or something like the swtor flashpoints
> I would like more things to do on Nimbus or they could extend the dyson ground battlezone.
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> they could add some of the old lobi costumes/uniformes in the phoenix boxe, or in the dil store. 280 000 dil for a vanity shield no thx, but for a costume, yes, sure. (nakhul, voth); but without a time restriction. It is hard for casual players to earn 280 000 dil in such a short time
That's the point. If you want the item within the window they are directing you toward the dilithium exchange.
I agree on Phoenix. It could be a lot more useful and serve its purpose again if they just tweaked it a little bit. We have a lot of early Lobi ships that will never sell a mudd pack and really don't sell lobi anymore. They would be good adds... if they where account unlocks anyway. Your right about epic tier though the drop rate is pretty terrible... but that could be tweaked.
I say they could just do the Crytpic thing and add some new gear into Phoenix. I mean why not a couple new unique uni consoles... or even ship sets. They don't have to be over powered just smartly different. It is cryptic they could reuse graphic work, and just plug in some new stats. They could also add some new ship traits and put them in at UR. Right now what is UR good for a few old T5 ships.... a really bad voth torpedo I guess.
What I would do with Phoenix though in order to drive things is make things time limited. As an example why not put account bound Lockbox weapon packs in the purple tier for one week runs. They could also add the lockbox consoles again for week long runs. They could revive the old lockboxs for a week via phoenix (so it would still be in keeping with the old things reborn theme). When they needed a valve they could do a week long run of items from 1-3 of the old boxes... and account bind the drops so people aren't flooding the exchange market.
If they did a week long run where they had things like the Borg Doff packs as a option at purple tier ect... they would burn Dil out of the system fast.
As far as I know the Gon'cra battlezone is still semi borked, and no one really likes the Gamma Quadrant "battlezone". I think there are plans to revamp Defera at some point...
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Maybe the borg ones, and that's only because they require strategy and knowledge, which most people don't care to go for nowadays, so they become a slog.
And it's all fine and good - I mean, when people think Star Trek they think about ships, not ground combat even if there's a fair bit of that, too.
I wouldn't be opposed to flashpoint-like activities, especially if they're made with traditional roles (tank, healer, dps) in mind, but then they'd have to rework how ground combat work, because at the moment it's not in its best shape.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
If it was not bind on character...maybe (account unlock would be nice, but theres no chance of that)
Even though cryptic never would read this (heck, we have to go to twitter or reddit to find out stuff about the game instead of the official forum) - I can understand the logic of boc on lockbox won shields (at the time for bragging/lockbox sales increasing...now I'd say it'd be fairer to make them boa but I know theres issues with changing items lock properties retroactively) but as we are buying these directly, bind on account would be a lot fairer and more likely to work as a dil sink
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Star Tek is also the realm of the away teams, crews, ground exploration, and ground fights etc. DS9 (my favorite trek show) is a good mix of both ground and space.
I personally prefer the ground stuff in STO, because I can equip my boffs with a lot of stuff, + they are really funny.
I bought a lot of lobi stuff for my characters and their boffs, and if I should pay for something now, that won't be a ship. the space content is too dull and repetitive. if the devs put the old costumes/uniforms from the lobi store in the phoenix boxes or the dil store, I would be happy to pay 280 000 dil , even if it is not an account unlock.
yes, you are right. for me, the lack of strategy is really annoying.
kobalistan is interesting, but the missions are not really fascinating (not the missions given by the general and Harry Kim)
I'm not saying there's no ground stuff in Star Trek as a whole. Every series and every movie has it fair bit of it, and the game should reflect that - yes, exploration included. But I can understand why most people would go for space missions only, too.
And I agree: equipping BOFFs for ground missions is fun - way more than space stuff. It certainly gives you way more freedom to equip them how you like - from skills and specs to actual gear.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Now, what is the going Exchange rate for those 4 Keys? - under 40 million EC. I've seen Vanity Shields up on the Exchange for prices of Lobi Ships, so good to crash that gougers market.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
This is only a week long thing... and those shields in unbound versions are still going to be as rare a drop as a lockbox ship. (in fact they are a rare drop from another lockbox drop... so if anything they are rarer then ships) So no the exchange pricing isn't likely to change much. At least not in the long term.
The Scramble Fighters, Delta Prime, and Point Defense Protocols should be added to the Starship Trait Selection Pack. Do some work to organize this mess. And unbind the Selection Packs as they were before. Don't make me have to study trends in the Market. Let the Buyer decide.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The purpose here isn't really to eat up dil reserves. It will do that. But it's really about getting more zen into the exchange. So that really means prompting people who don't have dil reserves to buy zen specifically to convert. I get that it's a subtle and nuanced distinction but making dil scarce doesn't fix the exchange issue - increasing the zen supply does.
That's why the pricing is so key. It's really about zen cost, not dil cost.
It needed to be sufficiently less zen than the keys -> ec conversion but not so inexpensive that most players had the dil reserve to buy their ba'ul/s31 without converting zen. It also has to be a short term offer so that players don't just grind dil for it.
I think it's a really smart stop gap measure. Smart enough it actually surprised me a little. But it is just short term relief and the demand for zen/abundance of dil still needs to be addressed by both making dil more valuable (by giving players a reason to spend it) and increasing the flow of zen into the exchange (by being a little more canny about high cost/demand additions to the zen store).
I still think of this as a band aid measure towards the current dilithium "crisis", but at least Cryptic is attempting something & as many have already pointed out, per dilithium, if you're into vanity shields they're a, subjectively, reasonable price.
I still have a fear that down the road Cryptic could issue these vanity shields in Mudd's for purchase.
Also, if Cryptic really wanted a direct injection of zen into STO I'd think it would make sense to have a zen sale, charge bonus.
"The versions purchased from the Dilithium Store will be "Bound to Account on Pickup" and thus cannot be sold on the Exchange."
My guess is that is only until you equip them. Account on pickup, character on equip.
We'll find out tomorrow.
> I still have a fear that down the road Cryptic could issue these vanity shields in Mudd's for purchase.
Mudd store is a game changer for sure. I made my peace with it realizing the few facts we have about it:
- releases are slow, like a few items per quarter. At that rate it is highly unlikely everything ever will be re-released through it.
- items in it are old, 2 years or so.
- the cost of these acc unlock items are extremely high considering you face packs. One can only make a good deal here if one needs multiple things from those packs on multiple chars or the original release route is cheaper.
To abstract this to your decision: If you want 3 different vanity shields on 3 different chars now I’d strongly suggest you make use of the current offer via dil. On the other hand if you plan to buy the section 31 shield seven times or something like that I would not do it.
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I'd think, with how Cryptic conducts things, these vanity shields will be at least as restrictive as those once equipped off the Exchange. Not sure if those are account-bound or character-bound once equipped since never owned one.
I was just sort of hoping for them to be account-bound once equipped to be more user-friendly. As you pointed out wait & see.
A good point at the end about strategically buying & what's most efficient depending upon how I want to use.
They want to preserve the market for lockbox shields (even if they are gonna depress it in the short term).