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Oh Cardassia, where art thou?
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I know that this has been discussed a hundred times, but I still feel it just as strongly...where are the Cardassians? They're one of the most prominent races in Star Trek, we have playable Cardassians, Intel Ships, there's still the old Cardassian Arc...but what about the rest?
We know at the end of DS9 that Cardassia Prime was decimated, millions or billions of Cardassians were dead, even though they changed sides at the eleventh hour, I'm sure no one in the Alpha Quadrant trusted them and their entire race was in shambles. Honestly...they sound like more of a direction, than the destruction of Romulus!
The Obsidian Order was destroyed...but maybe it rebuilt in secret. The Cardassians were made pariahs...but maybe they pulled themselves up by their own boot strings. Not to mention that instead of Mirror Leeta and the Pah-wraiths, why couldn't Dukat be brought back?
I'd love to visit Cardassia Prime and see it as a wasteland, or being rebuilt. The wasteland would really be ironic, after how the Cardassians left Bajor.
Cardassian technology was pretty unparalleled. Until they shut the power off, their defence platforms were obliterating the attacking ships and Dreadnought? Ooh, but Dreadnought was UNSTOPPABLE and if only they'd built more. Maybe though...one appears. Then another and another and another, by Cardassians, surviving Obsidian Order or a rogue element who want their power back.
And instead of cloned Klingons...how about cloning Seska? I always assumed she was OO herself and there are all sorts of weird and wacky ways to do that.
In the novels what Dukat was doing to the real Iliana was CHILLING, but there's just so much scope!
I also bet that Andrew Robinson would return as Garak...and maybe even write the arc himself.
It could go in any direction, but a Cardassian season would be lush.
We know at the end of DS9 that Cardassia Prime was decimated, millions or billions of Cardassians were dead, even though they changed sides at the eleventh hour, I'm sure no one in the Alpha Quadrant trusted them and their entire race was in shambles. Honestly...they sound like more of a direction, than the destruction of Romulus!
The Obsidian Order was destroyed...but maybe it rebuilt in secret. The Cardassians were made pariahs...but maybe they pulled themselves up by their own boot strings. Not to mention that instead of Mirror Leeta and the Pah-wraiths, why couldn't Dukat be brought back?
I'd love to visit Cardassia Prime and see it as a wasteland, or being rebuilt. The wasteland would really be ironic, after how the Cardassians left Bajor.
Cardassian technology was pretty unparalleled. Until they shut the power off, their defence platforms were obliterating the attacking ships and Dreadnought? Ooh, but Dreadnought was UNSTOPPABLE and if only they'd built more. Maybe though...one appears. Then another and another and another, by Cardassians, surviving Obsidian Order or a rogue element who want their power back.
And instead of cloned Klingons...how about cloning Seska? I always assumed she was OO herself and there are all sorts of weird and wacky ways to do that.
In the novels what Dukat was doing to the real Iliana was CHILLING, but there's just so much scope!
I also bet that Andrew Robinson would return as Garak...and maybe even write the arc himself.
It could go in any direction, but a Cardassian season would be lush.
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Idea: maybe combine this with the Mirror Leeta story somehow. Maybe she is trying to take over Cardassia or get some kind of revenge against them for what they did to our Bajor? Or maybe something to do with the Pah Wraighs. IDK, but I'm sure there are lots of ideas that could involve a visit to Cardassia without it being a New Romulus repeat.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
The Prophets have Bajor, let the Pah-wraith have Cardassia! In Harbinger, they have their own orbs and a wormhole and Empok-Nor is going begging, so the DS9 sets could be reused.
And maybe a holographic Seska...they brought Stamets back that way and we know Seska had made a hologram of herself before.
Leeta, Dukat, Garak, Seska, the real Iliana Ghemor (played my Nana), Quark's girlfriend, Tracey Scoggins, the boy who bit Garak all grown up, Seska's half Kazon son...there are just so many potential characters you could use and bring together.
Well, I'll account recount what happened in the novels, which aren't considered fact, but then neither is STO technically. In the books, Dukat found the real Iliana, still living her life as a Bajoran. He kept her prisoner, TRIBBLE her repeatedly and drove her into madness.
In STO, Seska's son created his own Kazon Faction...but did he really die? If not, I can absolutely see him leaving the Delta Quadrant for something more with the Cardassians though.
The Cardassians are darker and more disturbing and it wouldn't be just wave after wave. It could be Pah-wraith storylines, sleeper agents and a chance to bring back some great characters.
And that Cardassian rifle...drag it through the mud, etc :-) Ooh, ooh, ooh and I would LOVE the Cardassian transporter effect. It's my absolute favourite and I only wish I could buy it from the C-Store.
You aren't wrong, but everything you said is past/present tense. None of that means a new story cannot be told that involves the Cardassians in some new story/problem. I mean, look at species like the Deferi and Lukari. Completely 'unknowns' as far as Trek lore and also not major players on the galactic scene, yet entire arcs were made about them. So yeah, they could definitely tell some new Cardassian focused story about some new issue if they wanted to.
Please don't tell me that good writing is suddenly a requirement for missions in game
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I'd argue that the Romulans went with the smarter route, at least they're not dismantling their military due to their stubbornness, a trait that I both admire and share, personally I like doing everything by myself even if I am clearly struggling, there's no way I'm getting hand outs from mere peasants that are far beneath my notice, sure... I may be poor now but I will never let go of my Pride, even after I lose everything else, besides it's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything.
As for Cardassia making any sort of major appearance now...the only way that would likely happen is if it's somehow involved in the upcoming mirror arc - like, Leeta breaking through the Alliance blockade in the badlands with her new uber-fleet and invading Cardassia to use as a staging point or something, so the Alliance has to call on their Angel of Death (AKA, we the player) to bring down the unholy power of fleetus deletus upon her once more.
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We could have an arc, but it would be something like someone activates the Orb of McGuffin on Cardassia, and Grand Admiral Genocidus (the player) is sent to the planet to settle their hash.
The situation was totally different for the Romulans. Cardassia is small and dense, only the homeworld and a few colonies, whereas the RSE was a major power with quite a few old established worlds spread across a much larger area of space. The only reason their the lost of their capital world spelled the end of the RSE was that it kicked off a disastrously intense internal power struggle that tore the empire apart and left many of its worlds in very dire straights.
The Federation could afford to step in and get the much smaller Cardassian Union back on its feet and protect it afterwards, but there is no way they could do the same for the RSE after the dust settled a bit, there is too much there and too much territory to patrol. A real world example is that the US could do that with Japan after WWII, but there is no way the US alone could have done the same with the Soviet Union if it had collapsed in the war, there is just too much there and there would not have been enough resources to handle it.
For that matter, PIC reveals that the Federation could not even handle giving the Romulans much in the way of aid just for the evacuation of their capital much less any significant amount of aid for the rest of their star nation.