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raijinmeister
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Simple like that. It's 2021. Have to pay real money to retrain your captain is above absurd.
I can't believe the revenue for that is so important that Cryptic need to monetize that aspect of the game. Let new players discover how to make their own builds, commit mistakes and find their path in the game without having to punish their pockets or forcing them to copy/paste some build from some min/maxer.
I have tons of those tokens because I've been playing the game for almost 11 years now, gained some through lots of giveaways, after game changes, etc... but that is a luxury a new player will not have. Even I would love to freely change my skill tree to have a pvp setup, ready to go and then just go back to my pve build when I want. No cost, no fuss.
Let the players enjoy the game in the way they want.
I can't believe the revenue for that is so important that Cryptic need to monetize that aspect of the game. Let new players discover how to make their own builds, commit mistakes and find their path in the game without having to punish their pockets or forcing them to copy/paste some build from some min/maxer.
I have tons of those tokens because I've been playing the game for almost 11 years now, gained some through lots of giveaways, after game changes, etc... but that is a luxury a new player will not have. Even I would love to freely change my skill tree to have a pvp setup, ready to go and then just go back to my pve build when I want. No cost, no fuss.
Let the players enjoy the game in the way they want.
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Well "they" really need some time because a decade to change a decreptic feature seems to not be enough. But we are playing a game where bugs make happy birthday parties and some are older than the kids of some players, but I digress.
I would be fine with this idea.
Some cost to retraining promotes thinking through what you want to do with a character, as well as creating other ones if you want to do and specialise in other things.
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but i agree with op.
I do not agree that the game needs another Dil sink, however...
Actually we kinda do. The DL Exchange is still riding rather high, around the 490 mark... and it caps out at 500. Having it drop down to around 400 would be more healthy for the exchange rate. 350-300 would be absolutely perfect IMO.
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I don't agree with eliminating respec tokens completely because choosing a spec in a video game is supposed to be a big deal. It generally defines alot of character abilities, has a massive effect on your passive stats, and can have a major impact on how the character functions overall. To change something that is foundational to the character is something that should incur some kind of cost imo as it shouldn't be done lightly.
This is actually not accurate as you're going to have to make choices regardless of what you do. There aren't enough spec points for you to grab every single item from the tree. If someone wants to use one of the "ultimate" abilities, they need to invest near exclusively into sci, eng, or tac, depending on what they're going for, and they only have a few points left over for off spec items. The great thing about STO is you don't have to invest exclusively in tac, eng, or sci and can pick up items from all 3 areas in the skill tree. There doesn't need to be hard artificial lines there in the skill tree as it serves no purpose. At best it would only give the illusion of additional choice, while in actuality it heavily restricts builds for no valid reason.
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I like how people understand hyperbole. Hey, send a hello to my Liberated Borg Bof, that for almost the time they implemented that bof in the game can't change the upper color of her Honor Guard set without changing the lower part color in process and vice versa.
This game has barely new content, barely any fix in the bugs that plagues the game for years or the new ones in a timely manner. And people here advocating to keep an completely stupid way for them to milk money from players is laughable. That's why companies like Bethesda, Konami, E.A, Ubisoft, and many, many others can get away wit their TRIBBLE products. Because most of the gamers are willing to accept bad products and defend horrible design choices.
People here advocating the maintenance of these tokens "because otherwise people would not think on their builds", my goodness, I'm a leader of one of the oldest fleets still in operation in the game and never, ever once I found a single player, new or even seasoned to the game that doesn't ask me some build because it was afraid to have to spend tokens to retrain it.
My Liberated Borg boff, that can't change the color of the upper part of her uniform without automatically changing the lower part since they implemented those bofs many years ago has a few words to you. This game has bugs older than some kids from some players here, we have very few and far between new content, specially if you don't count stuff with re-used assets.
But, let's just keep paying for the overpriced packs, seeing the game get more and more broken and of course not asking for changes on horrible game designs, like these tokens.
No need to demand that they get rid of them.
I prefer having them around for when I might want to retrain a toon or two.
While I agree that new content is added FAR too infrequently and at far too small of a quantity, and some bugs have been around for far too long, the game is most certainly not abandoned. If it was they wouldn't even be making new ships, they would have a tiny team performing server maintenance every week and MAYBE fixing occasional issues caused by updates to either windows or GPU drivers, and that's it. No new content, no new micro transactions, no new lootboxes, nothing at all. THAT is what STO would be like if it was abandoned.
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I know I'm an outlier in the other direction, but I don't think I've ever done it besides when the game has forced me. Still have the free tokens that have been given out a few times.
Since they cost real money I just set all my characters to a generic DPS build with very little variation, and then never look at it again. If they only cost EC I might consider changing things up now and then to get either a tankier build when necessary or a pet oriented one for when I'm flying a carrier. If I could setup a second skill loadout and switch between them that would be even better for that.
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I'd be more interested in more robust ground skill trees.
I don't see the problem with that being the case again.
Skill points do actually run low if your not playing the game... price them high enough that people won't be respecing every que... but low enough that no one will be complaining they need a million skill points for a retrain or anything silly.
In 10 years, apart from forced respec, across nearly 30 toons on PC and XBOX, I've used a token ONCE and never had to even buy one! I can't understand the OP's justification for this request at all.