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Finally caught up with the last few seasons. A mixed bag to be sure. But after playing the missions to raise L'Rel from the dead I'm now incredibly confused about the Klingon Afterlife / Feklhri...
It's previously revealed that the Feklhr of Klingon mythology, who aided Molor in battle against Kahless, and then were sent to the mythological Gre'thor are actually a species engineered by the Dominion. And that they did in fact aid Molor. We've previously seen Grethor in the show, as a vision, and STO, as a vision.
But in this episode we go there, and it's a real place, with the actual souls of Klingon warriors. Has this ever been explained? I'm just wondering how the Feklhri, and their leader ended up there, and somehow also got the power to take souls from Klingons there??
I don't have a problem with Grethor being an actual place that the Feklhri have made there home, and how that's inspired Klingon beliefs. I just don't get how the Feklhri have actually come to have some power over Klingon life and death. Has that ever been explained?
It's previously revealed that the Feklhr of Klingon mythology, who aided Molor in battle against Kahless, and then were sent to the mythological Gre'thor are actually a species engineered by the Dominion. And that they did in fact aid Molor. We've previously seen Grethor in the show, as a vision, and STO, as a vision.
But in this episode we go there, and it's a real place, with the actual souls of Klingon warriors. Has this ever been explained? I'm just wondering how the Feklhri, and their leader ended up there, and somehow also got the power to take souls from Klingons there??
I don't have a problem with Grethor being an actual place that the Feklhri have made there home, and how that's inspired Klingon beliefs. I just don't get how the Feklhri have actually come to have some power over Klingon life and death. Has that ever been explained?
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> @paradox#7391 said:
> Mythological Fek'Irhi probably do exist but lack physical forms and possess the Dominion clone Fek'Ihri bodies, every time we visited Grethor it was more of an Astral Projection thing rather then teleporting since our characters woke up in the same spot they left.
This is just a theory though? It's quite a big leap to expect us to take.
Except the L'rel clone didn't work until we sniffed this incense.
again it's possible that Klingons are latent telepaths who can only access their abilities via vision quests like this and what we did was essentially create L'rell's mind via telepathy while tripping on what ever was in that incense.
There's nothing there that cannot be explained by any other thing then "we went to the literal Klingon hell".
I think it's intentionally left vague as to what exactly happen so your guess is as good as mine. IIRC they did this exact same thing in the VOY episode that dealt with Grethor.
-people hallucinating the exact same thing at the same time and interacting with each other is definitely hard to believe
-after waking up, L'Rell acts as the whole thing did happen, remembering everything and thanking you
-no-one would know of the circumstances of Voq's demise outside of L'Rell herself, since for all the Klingons knew, Voq/Tyler tried to kill her. While this would likely classify as a dishonorable death, the hallucination wouldn't portray Voq as her "greatest love", worth switching place to Gre'thor to save him, if it was based on memories of the participants
-Gowron probably wouldn't act like he did in the mission, based on Martok's memories
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Yes, all this! The sum total of this mission did not leave it very open to Grethor being anything but real, unlike the original Afterlife missions.
Don't expect any clear answers here the vagueness is intentional.
While not impossible it's doubtful that things will get explained again the vagueness here was intentional so it's highly unlikely they address it either way.
Also I doubt the Fek'Ihri will play any major role in the storyline anymore, I suspect they were there to give a plausible enemy that all factions could agree was a bad thing and the Klingon Empire forces would put down their differences and reunite to fight against.
J'Ula's deal really boils down to "I'll kill J'mpok and Akaar" and doesn't really need the Fek'Ihri to reappear in the story, the role they Fek'Ihri played is done they're not needed anymore.