test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Remain Klingon / Remain Fed
marcoramius2
Member Posts: 20 Arc User
No self respecting Klingon would be caught in command of a weak federation starship and no self respecting Starfleet officer would command a KDF battle cruiser / BoP / battleship. I hate the idea of commanding each others ships that does not fit the style of the Fed or KDF. It is troubling to see, as if this one thing will cause more captains to join for this cross faction abomination. I will pass on this, I just hate to see it come to this.
Now this Janeway ship. You know they used to tell a story of how certain ships came to be or their being brought back from a distant region, sad.
Now this Janeway ship. You know they used to tell a story of how certain ships came to be or their being brought back from a distant region, sad.
Post edited by baddmoonrizin on
0
This discussion has been closed.
Comments
I agree to an extent Feds shouldn't be driving KDF ships unless they're Fed Klingons, I feel like Fed Klingons should get a pass since they're still technically Klingons.
Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
The good news is to some extent it is possible to craft your own gameplay style, but the bad is to acquire certain things now means having to use a ship or other game item or power that is completely locked to that mismatch. More selection in some respects, less in others. At the very least, the majority of things are entirely optional to playing the game well enough.
Meanwhile,
- Seaton heads away from ESD in his Tarantula
- Duquesne orders his Paradox to warp
- Harlanus approaches Mol Rihan in his Xindi-Insectiod escort
- K'Taltos inspects the Krieger wave disruptor batteries on his Fek'Ihri Gok'tad carrier
...
Well you do realize in one of the Temporal Missions of the future, the Federation Ambassador is a Klingon. Well I admit most my toons have several Faction specific Starships around, they try to certainly understand and learn all they can about Alliance Strengths.
My Ferasan right now is greatly enjoying her Titan, even though she also has a Fleet KDF Science Ship. She's and her Bridge Crew are being educated by a few Federation Officer's who remain as consultants on the Bridge.
I wouldn't consider Ambassador Worf soft, but well educated from his time working with the Federation during his Service. Still also don't forget even Riker was a 2nd Officer about a Klingon ship for the Officer Exchange; and yes even Picard even got a Klingon First Officer.
╘ sorry wrong Officer Exchange Program.
I'm grateful for the Cross Faction Flying, and it was a long time coming.
I'm honestly more hopeful the Federation in the 32nd in Discovery Season 4, will develop or introduce several more ships that well Look Federation. The Janeway Class or Voyager-J was the only one I saw that resembled one; hopefully the Vulcan's from Nivar & their Romulan brethren rejoin the Federation in Season 4 to introduce Logic back to the Federation; same with the Trill and others...
...though perhaps it was also caused by the limited Dilithium. So some Federation Ships serviced roles, not traditionally performed, as many members planets even that remained tried to just survive. I also can't wait to see Klingons in the 32nd Century, and what a new Federation might eventually look like!
Still waiting to be able to use forum titles
1: I also think letting every faction use every other factions ships is silly.
2: I also really dislike the look of the new future-voyager ship.
3: If you don't like it, don't use it (applies to both 1 and 2 above).
It's fine to dislike certain things and not want to use them. But thinking they shouldn't exist for other people who do like them is selfish and immature, so hopefully that's not what you are suggesting.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
My personal experience is whenever that Mirror Dreadnought released, the Galaxy-ish version I wanted for a Klingon, but the "command any starship" mechanic hadn't been released yet nor did I have a Klingon-Fed bought.
That's my vision for a character on my account though so subjective except for at least me, but now I have to wait for another sale for that Mirror Galaxy-ish Dreadnought & re-consider if worth it to play-out my vision.
Just to re-affirm the only ships not covered by the newish "command any starship" for the factions are the LTS faction-specific starships yes?
Thanks, rattler, fo confirming I thought I remembered it that way but wouldn't had verified till later when logging back in.
> The LTS ships are still faction locked.
Unless they fixed that more recently, no? When the Cross Faction flying came out, I noticed I could claim all 7 LTS Destroyers - 3 T5s and 4 T6s.
My DSC Klingon flies a Jem'Hadar Destroyer, which I claimed for Polaron endeavors and kept. It's not her main ship, but she's got it.
My captains severely lack Tac admiralty cards, mostly due to not having many from events and C store (personal taste), so a few alts claimed multiple LTS Destroyers for cards and dismissed.
I know a certain klingon being very fond of a small Starfleet-ship... can't quite put my finger on it, but it can have a nose-art that says "Stovokor-express".
No, they definitely aren't faction locked still.
> I agree to an extent Feds shouldn't be driving KDF ships unless they're Fed Klingons, I feel like Fed Klingons should get a pass since they're still technically Klingons.
Oh thank you!
My Starfleet Klingon really feels like she is in your debt now.
What a thread, what an op.
Looking for a fun PvE fleet? Join us at Omega Combat Division today.
The reason you "aren't going to stop" them is because you can't. Don't say it like you are doing them some kind of favor or being nice 😒
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I'm not trying to do them a favor, it just came out that way, they're free to do whatever they want because in the end It's their character and not mine, I don't really have a say in the matter and maybe OP shouldn't either.
Remove the walls, and it removes the need for justification. You can make whatever and it will be available to all. If they got an idea for a ship and it would fit better as a Klingon one, theyr'e free to chase it more now without having to try and make a Fed equivelent.
Federation starships are superior.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
I also like good looking ships. That's one reason why I didn't really have Klingon characters before.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
If you are NOT in any way suggesting that Fed ships will not always be the MAIN development priority, fair enough.
But if you ARE in any way suggesting Fed ships will not always be the MAIN development priority, I disagree. As you know, Trek is mainly a Fed focused show. And due to that, the majority of Trek fans (and STO players) want to play Fed. And part of "playing Fed" is flying Fed ships. That desire to "play Fed" and fly Fed ships for the majority of Trek fans(and STO players) isn't going to go away just because the faction restrictions were removed.
To be clear, I'm not saying the sales of non-Fed ships won't go up. It definitely will. But it will never, ever, ever, approach the numbers of the actual Fed ships, for the reasons just mentioned above. So, faction restrictions or not, sales will always drive development priority. And Fed ships will always have bigger sales than non Fed ships, meaning Fed ships will always be the main development priority.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
The way I read his post, he's saying that any ship that would have previously gone to one faction (i.e., FED in most cases) would no longer have to go to that single faction. And this helps making more different designs viable.
I think he has a point there. Plenty of ships may not have been designed in the past because
- they would've been liked by players of a faction that attracts only a fraction of the players
- the design mostly fit with such a f(r)action
- they didn't want / could afford to design four ships but didn't want to leave out three factions
Such issues are a thing of the past now. The removal of restrictions gives the ship designers more freedom. Not just because any ship can now much more easily be viable, but also because selling designs incorporating elements of different factions (like the Temer and Khitomer) more often than just with special events can now more easily be justified.
[3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. And if you're JUST saying the removal of faction restrictions will help increase the sales of non Fed ships, I completely agree (like I said in my post).
But if anyone is saying Fed ships won't always be the MAIN development priority, for the simple fact that Fed "stuff" sells better with Trek fans that non Fed "stuff, I'll have to disagree.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
can't say I disagree with this, as Klingon's always had a sense of superiority, but they were also tactically oriented, rather than eng/sci, and their ships should reflect that. they ARE called battlecruisers for a reason
aut vincere aut mori pro imperio
either to conquer or to die for the Empire
The Romulan Fleet Heavy Destroyers (T5 and T6) I think are still faction locked, which has been posted as a bug in the bug reports forum. The others are faction unlocked, along with the yachts.