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westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,260 Arc User
Not sure how to link the posts, but there are posts on the official Facebook account announcing:

20% off ship sale (including bundles)
20% zen charge bonus
50% off lobi store sale

These of course coinciding with the addition of the new Legendary Bundle.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,377 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    Not sure how to link the posts, but there are posts on the official Facebook account announcing:

    20% off ship sale (including bundles)
    20% zen charge bonus
    50% off lobi store sale

    These of course coinciding with the addition of the new Legendary Bundle.

    What a startling coincidence! :|


  • darknovasc01darknovasc01 Member Posts: 110 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    westmetals wrote: »
    Not sure how to link the posts, but there are posts on the official Facebook account announcing:

    20% off ship sale (including bundles)
    20% zen charge bonus
    50% off lobi store sale

    These of course coinciding with the addition of the new Legendary Bundle.

    What a startling coincidence! :|

    There are no coincidences...
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User

    -20% on ships & bundles is weak-sauce, but Cryptic doesn't want a current sale to exceed what they're trying to sell this 2021 "legendary" bundle for neither, a big yawn to Cryptic.

    -50% lobi sale is excellent, the best as of date & I think only the 2nd time, but not surprising given Ambassador Kael's subtle hint last week, kudos to Cryptic.

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 14,377 Arc User
    -20% on ships & bundles is weak-sauce, but Cryptic doesn't want a current sale to exceed what they're trying to sell this 2021 "legendary" bundle for neither, a big yawn to Cryptic.

    -50% lobi sale is excellent, the best as of date & I think only the 2nd time, but not surprising given Ambassador Kael's subtle hint last week, kudos to Cryptic.

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

    50% Lobi sale = making the Lobi in the bundle look more attractive.


  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,260 Arc User
    edited February 18

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

    There's also a permanent bonus on the larger amounts, when purchased through Arc, and they stack. They have never included mentioning that in sale postings.
  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 5,836 Arc User
    The ship + bundle sale is a nice surprise, I'll definitely be getting the Vor'ral now in addition to my planned Recon Destroyer bundle purchase.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 2,416 Arc User
    Meh. Some bonuses are significant, but I've already got too many ships I'm not using.

    I'm not interested in getting more ships that will mostly remain unused.

    Gives us a new play mode, like summoning ships. We know they've worked on it. At least then I'd have a reason again to get new ships. Or move to something else, like developing new species and so on.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 2,416 Arc User
    The only thing I might make use of, is the lobi sale. I've got some new characters who could use the new ground weapon and the console from the Elachi set.

    Besides that, I see no good reason to spend here. :/
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,175 Arc User
    Well now I have to figure out if I want a lobi ship.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    Hopefully there is no hidden caveat to the zen bonus this time. The last one had gaps so purchasing some of the levels, like it turned out the $20 level which seems to be the most popular with the non-whale crowd, did not actually generate the bonus zen.

    It makes me not trust the sale this time so I am hesitant to chance straining the budget for it.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

    There's also a permanent bonus on the larger amounts, when purchased through Arc, and they stack. They have never included mentioning that in sale postings.

    Oh okay lol I was trying to figure out how this "flat-rate" would be any better compared to the "buy more get larger bonus". Glad to hear they stack.

    No reason to buy any zen since not buying the bundle but good to learn, thanks.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    -20% on ships & bundles is weak-sauce, but Cryptic doesn't want a current sale to exceed what they're trying to sell this 2021 "legendary" bundle for neither, a big yawn to Cryptic.

    -50% lobi sale is excellent, the best as of date & I think only the 2nd time, but not surprising given Ambassador Kael's subtle hint last week, kudos to Cryptic.

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

    50% Lobi sale = making the Lobi in the bundle look more attractive.

    I'll admit it's smart marketing by Cryptic to usher buyers in feeling like they're getting more.
  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    more desperation, trying to get the anni bundle to sell.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,461 Arc User
    $200 will net ya 27,000 zen... 2k less than the last time I bought and 1K less than normal sales. Guess normal sales are 25% bonus.
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    edited February 18
    I used to like when they had the double sales where the ship discount brought the cost down so that a $20 plus the bonus was enough to buy a T6.

    Last time I tried that though the hidden gotcha meant it was not enough (though by flushing all the dil I had available at the time onto the exchange (despite the execrable rate) I had just enough to cover the difference). This time I am going to wait and see if others report the same bonus failure before buying any zen.

    The Lobi part of the sale looks nice though, it is just a matter of which character do I get something from that for... :)
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,461 Arc User
    I used to like when they had the double sales where the ship discount brought the cost down so that a $20 plus the bonus was enough to buy a T6.

    Last time I tried that though the hidden gotcha meant it was not enough (though by flushing all the dil I had available at the time onto the exchange (despite the execrable rate) I had just enough to cover the difference). This time I am going to wait and see if others report the same bonus failure before buying any zen.

    The Lobi part of the sale looks nice though, it is just a matter of which character do I get something from that for... :)

    there are no bugs... you get the 20% bonus if you charge thru ARC. Use their launcher or go buy from this website. Up top of page says "Charge"
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    $200 will net ya 27,000 zen... 2k less than the last time I bought and 1K less than normal sales. Guess normal sales are 25% bonus.

    That is interesting, but I'm not surprised. I think Cryptic has been diluting sales & sale amounts a bit so would make sense if they're in that mind-set to dilute the charge bonus too. It's helpful knowledge to keep track of such things.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,920 Arc User
    I buyed the T6 nx... no convinved on that ship..
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    I'm not seeing the cross-faction equipment packs in the Lobi store. Though I was looking using my new Klingon recruit, and he's only level 17 so far. Could that be the reason? Is there a level requirement for those cross faction packs?
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,175 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    I'm not seeing the cross-faction equipment packs in the Lobi store. Though I was looking using my new Klingon recruit, and he's only level 17 so far. Could that be the reason? Is there a level requirement for those cross faction packs?

    You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    > @foxrockssocks said:
    > You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.

    What? Somewhere I missed that news.That's BS.
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  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    > @djf021 said:
    > > @foxrockssocks said:
    > > You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.
    >
    > What? Somewhere I missed that news.That's BS.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    > @foxrockssocks said:
    > You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.

    What? Somewhere I missed that news.That's BS.

    It is the downside of the "any faction can fly any ship" thing they went to in the latest big patch.
  • djf021djf021 Member Posts: 1,344 Arc User
    > @phoenixc#0738 said:
    > It is the downside of the "any faction can fly any ship" thing they went to in the latest big patch.

    Ah, ok. That's really disappointing though, to make it harder to acquire.
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    > @foxrockssocks said:
    > You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.

    What? Somewhere I missed that news.That's BS.

    It is the downside of the "any faction can fly any ship" thing they went to in the latest big patch.

    Well, let's be clear here, it was a decision Cryptic made to cancel the alternative methods of acquiring the cross-faction equipment causing players to have to buy the ships now if they want the console, trait, etcetera & Cryptic knew that ahead of time.

    The new mechanic of "piloting any faction ship" didn't cause it. Of course I'm not sure it would've made much sense to keep the alternative method of acquiring such equipment in-game after that except to make it easier to be acquired in those cases. In essence Cryptic just made the bill larger to the paywall.
  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,260 Arc User
    djf021 wrote: »
    > @foxrockssocks said:
    > You can't get those now. You have to buy the ships.

    What? Somewhere I missed that news.That's BS.

    It is the downside of the "any faction can fly any ship" thing they went to in the latest big patch.

    Well, let's be clear here, it was a decision Cryptic made to cancel the alternative methods of acquiring the cross-faction equipment causing players to have to buy the ships now if they want the console, trait, etcetera & Cryptic knew that ahead of time.

    The new mechanic of "piloting any faction ship" didn't cause it. Of course I'm not sure it would've made much sense to keep the alternative method of acquiring such equipment in-game after that except to make it easier to be acquired in those cases. In essence Cryptic just made the bill larger to the paywall.

    The availability of the ships (in their argument) made the cross-faction equipment acquisition obsolete. Yes it was cheaper, but the players who play in those ships' original factions (who already had to buy the ship) would have been upset if the other players had a choice between the ship and a (much cheaper) cross-faction pack, while they did not.
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    edited February 19
    westmetals wrote: »

    +20% zen charge bonus I'm a bit confused on. Didn't Cryptic used to have it that with the larger amount of zen you purchased the larger the bonus? Did Cryptic quit on that? Where's the incentive to buy larger amounts of zen?

    There's also a permanent bonus on the larger amounts, when purchased through Arc, and they stack. They have never included mentioning that in sale postings.

    You seem well-informed. May I needle you for additional details?

    1) Can steam players purchase zen through arc?

    2) How does the bonus work? Like, you buy 100 bucks worth of zen, and automatically get $120 worth (or more, if there is a stacking bonus)?

    *Edit* Actually, I was able to answer my own questions. Although the bonus is very nice (approximately $70 worth of extra zen at the $200 mark), you'd still wind up spending at least $150 to get the proper amount to buy the legendary pack (although it's arguable that the smarter thing would just be to buy the $200, defeating the purpose entirely):

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  • westmetalswestmetals Member Posts: 5,260 Arc User
    edited February 19
    re: steam/arc... yes. Both access the same game account.

    re: "(although it's arguable that the smarter thing would just be to buy the $200, defeating the purpose entirely)"

    Keep in mind though that you would have the leftover zen to spend on other items.
  • mattingly1mattingly1 Member Posts: 172 Arc User
    westmetals wrote: »
    re: steam/arc... yes. Both access the same game account.

    re: "(although it's arguable that the smarter thing would just be to buy the $200, defeating the purpose entirely)"

    Keep in mind though that you would have the leftover zen to spend on other items.

    This is true. And were you to do $100 + $50, you'd have enough Zen to get the pack. But, the flipside is, the bonus would be much less significant.
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